2021 F3 Limited Service Manuals - which one is best?

[photophil33]

Looking for a service manual for the 2021 F3 Limited. Two that pull up in Google search are:
www.canammanuals.com
brp-manuals.com
just wondering which if either was better?
Thanks

 

[jbauto3]

You can also try techsparkstudio.com

 

[chunkmonk]

Looking for a service manual for the 2021 F3 Limited. Two that pull up in Google search are:
www.canammanuals.com
brp-manuals.com
just wondering which if either was better?
Thanks

I'd like to have a paper manual. None of these links seem to offer that. I don't want have to go to a web site in order to read a manual section. I'm going to call a few local dealers and see if they can supply an actual shop manual in print form.

 

[RayBJ]

You download the manual in PDF format. You can leave on PC for quick reference or print the section you need.

 

[chunkmonk]

You download the manual in PDF format. You can leave on PC for quick reference or print the section you need.

Do you happen to know how many pages the entire manual is? I'd rather just have it on paper and bound so it sits in my shop area with the bike... I'm thinking that for the money, I could grab one and upload it somewhere here, if it's not against any rules...

 

[JayBros]

The price of a paper manual will be half an arm and a leg more than an online manual. My online manual was more than adequate to do the complete 56K mile service.

 

[cravenfun]

Do you happen to know how many pages the entire manual is? I'd rather just have it on paper and bound so it sits in my shop area with the bike... I'm thinking that for the money, I could grab one and upload it somewhere here, if it's not against any rules...

My F3 online manual from canammanuals is 1040 single computer pages. If double sided printed that would still be 520 pages.
I just print out a section I may need in the garage.
I do that with all the online manuals for vehicles in the family fleet.

 

[chunkmonk]

The price of a paper manual will be half an arm and a leg more than an online manual. My online manual was more than adequate to do the complete 56K mile service.

Jay - true. The price of a paper manual runs, on average, $85USD. I had one dealer tell me that it was not available to the public, and another told me that I would need the companion software that costs about $300USD. I'll buy the online one and then look to see how many pages it is. I have access to printing equipment that I could easily print up to 4 or 500 pages so it would be a nice to have. Also, I'm happy to share an electronic copy of the manual here. I'll put it in the F3 shop talk forum - I'm guessing that's the best place for the most registered folks to have access to it.

 

[chunkmonk]

I got it. It's pretty good sized. 748 pages for the basic shop manual, plus another 248 pages of operations content. I thought it was humorous that they said in two of the service evolutions for the 2021 F3-Ltd "change spark plugs"...

 

[chunkmonk]

Or the 2nd 28k service(?) My BRP manual doesn't list a specific 56k, but does list a 28...But there is also a 19k, so does it only depend on when you get to do the maintenance? Or would you actually run both the 2nd 28k and then the 3rd 19k 1,000 miles later?

 

[Peter Aawen]

Jay - true. The price of a paper manual runs, on average, $85USD. I had one dealer tell me that it was not available to the public, and another told me that I would need the companion software that costs about $300USD. I'll buy the online one and then look to see how many pages it is. I have access to printing equipment that I could easily print up to 4 or 500 pages so it would be a nice to have. Also, I'm happy to share an electronic copy of the manual here. I'll put it in the F3 shop talk forum - I'm guessing that's the best place for the most registered folks to have access to it.

Hey chunkmonk, you might want to check on who owns the copyright of the manual you propose sharing first, and unless you can get the required approval from whomever holds that copyright & also make sure that the owner here is OK with sharing it via the Forum, then it might be best NOT to share it that way.... - or you might cause a whole lotta hassles that no-one here wants! :lecturef_smilie:

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Also, I'm happy to share an electronic copy of the manual here. I'll put it in the F3 shop talk forum - I'm guessing that's the best place for the most registered folks to have access to it.

I wouldn't do it. If the manual you got is from canammanuals.com or one of its sister websites there is no question it is a publication copyrighted by BRP. The best I have been able to determine is the manuals are in fact pirate copies reproduced from original BRP PDF files. How the web operator gets those copies I have no idea, other than maybe from an inside operator at the Chinese, or wherever, printer who prints the paper copies. As an amateur internet sleuth, I've never been able to determine who or where the owner of canammanuals.com exists. His identity is not disclosed on his websites nor in his publications. My speculation is he is in a jurisdiction that is unreachable by BRP, or producing the manuals for owners would be such a business headache BRP chooses to ignore him.

On the other hand you are reachable and if BRP is determined to protect their property from unauthorized distribution, you could easily be made to feel sorry for doing it.