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2019 F3L price drop.
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ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
Makes sense to me. In the end...it's the "out the door" price that counts.
If they did, that's a failed tactic. People don't understand that the price is lower and don't feel like they are getting a good deal, like if they are getting a rebate. JC Penny tried that also, rather than putting everything on sale, they just lowered the price to what it would have been with the sale price. People bought less stuff
stmike 1800
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Ether way it is going to knock the crap out of the value of my 2018 RTL .
petegtsv10
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$8500 for a Ryker might affect the F3 market, too!
BryanSD
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Demographic Change.
I have no special knowledge to why they've lowered the price and I'm only guessing in my previous post. I do know though, my local dealer was extremely frustrated this past summer with the fluctuating rebates for my 2017 RT Limited. In the few months leading up to my purchase...the conversation went from the price he could give me, to the price he could give me with the $3,000 rebate, and to the price he couldn't give me with the $4,500 rebate (he had very little wiggle room to lower the price beyond the rebate). I suspect dealers in general would like a more stable pricing for the Ryker and Spyder as long as they can still lure customers in the door with the new pricing structure. Hopefully, BRP makes some announcements about the new prices that the dealers can explain to their customers.
I appreciate your comparison with JC Penny (I'm more of a Sears missing Montgomery Ward guy) and do think you're right that they're going to have to make some type of "this is a good deal sale" to bring people like you and me in. At the new prices though, I wouldn't expect a repeat of those $3000 to $4500 rebates but lesser incentive package.
BUT...given the new Ryker line and the push to reaching demographics, BRP likely needs to change how sells these reverse trikes to a younger generation. Younger people don't want to wheel and deal and their initial shopping isn't being done at the dealership but online. If the dealer can't promise them a best price online or refuses to display their sale price...they don't call but instead move one. My local Ford dealer now sales cars at a fixed "best price" with no haggling. Older folks don't like it...but new customers love this no haggle pricing structure.
Again though, I'm only guessing. Any dealers here that can explain the new pricing structure for the F3 and RT? The motivation for the change?
I have no special knowledge to why they've lowered the price and I'm only guessing in my previous post. I do know though, my local dealer was extremely frustrated this past summer with the fluctuating rebates for my 2017 RT Limited. In the few months leading up to my purchase...the conversation went from the price he could give me, to the price he could give me with the $3,000 rebate, and to the price he couldn't give me with the $4,500 rebate (he had very little wiggle room to lower the price beyond the rebate). I suspect dealers in general would like a more stable pricing for the Ryker and Spyder as long as they can still lure customers in the door with the new pricing structure. Hopefully, BRP makes some announcements about the new prices that the dealers can explain to their customers.
I appreciate your comparison with JC Penny (I'm more of a Sears missing Montgomery Ward guy) and do think you're right that they're going to have to make some type of "this is a good deal sale" to bring people like you and me in. At the new prices though, I wouldn't expect a repeat of those $3000 to $4500 rebates but lesser incentive package.
BUT...given the new Ryker line and the push to reaching demographics, BRP likely needs to change how sells these reverse trikes to a younger generation. Younger people don't want to wheel and deal and their initial shopping isn't being done at the dealership but online. If the dealer can't promise them a best price online or refuses to display their sale price...they don't call but instead move one. My local Ford dealer now sales cars at a fixed "best price" with no haggling. Older folks don't like it...but new customers love this no haggle pricing structure.
Again though, I'm only guessing. Any dealers here that can explain the new pricing structure for the F3 and RT? The motivation for the change?
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BryanSD
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Yea, that's going to be a difficult choice...high-end Ryker or low-end F3?
I suspect both the Ryker's price and the new F3/RT prices will put a lot of pressure on the resale value of the older 990 Spyders (2014 and older).
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
RE: Demographics--anybody check out the models that are being shown with the new Ryker? Looks like they are looking for a whole different market.
RE: Price Drops: The only downside--it is going to put a real crimp in the current used market. I am thinking lucky to get $10K for my 2011 and $12K for the 2014--IF I were going to sell my RT's. :sour:
RE: Price Drops: The only downside--it is going to put a real crimp in the current used market. I am thinking lucky to get $10K for my 2011 and $12K for the 2014--IF I were going to sell my RT's. :sour:
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BryanSD
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Agree on both counts. Will be interesting to see what happens with the pricing for the left-over 2018's still remaining at the dealer. Even with the rebates for the 2018...the 2019 Ryker and the 2019 prices for the RT/F3 has me wondering what dealers will do with their old inventory.
al0vely
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bscrive
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I have seen 2018's used for less than that. That is not a deal.
SpyderAnn01
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Not a difficult choice if you plan on touring. Maybe if you’re looking for a commuter vehicle
Who's the fool?
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
When I buy any toy (motorcycle, RV, Boat) I know I'm going to lose "at least" 75% of my money when it sells.....period.
When I sell my F3s next year it'll be like tossing my cash on a camp fire.
This does not bother me because I knew what was coming BEFORE I bought my latest toy.
So who is the fool? The buyer? The seller? The answer is neither because I'm having a ball not giving a sh*t. :yes:
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
When I buy any toy (motorcycle, RV, Boat) I know I'm going to lose "at least" 75% of my money when it sells.....period.
When I sell my F3s next year it'll be like tossing my cash on a camp fire.
This does not bother me because I knew what was coming BEFORE I bought my latest toy.
So who is the fool? The buyer? The seller? The answer is neither because I'm having a ball not giving a sh*t. :yes:
Jarred
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Price is same on RT
Im not sure if it’s the same w F3, but the initial price of the RTL was lower...until I looked at equipment. The 19 doesn’t have same standard equipment that the 18 has. Floor boards, electric windshield etc. If u go to their site, build one w the equipment u have on your 18. The RTL was a little more expensive than the 18 MSRP I own, once I added floorboards etc. Just a marketing tool to get people in the door.
Im not sure if it’s the same w F3, but the initial price of the RTL was lower...until I looked at equipment. The 19 doesn’t have same standard equipment that the 18 has. Floor boards, electric windshield etc. If u go to their site, build one w the equipment u have on your 18. The RTL was a little more expensive than the 18 MSRP I own, once I added floorboards etc. Just a marketing tool to get people in the door.
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