2019 F3 Limited

[Stangman35]

Was on the way home after picking up my brand new Spyder I went over a rough railroad and the left mirror cover falls off and goes flying into the other lane. Luckily I was able to turn around and get back to it before it was ran over. But now I have a brand new Spyder with road rash all over one of the mirrors. Going to call the dealer Monday to see if warranty will replace it. :banghead:
Anyone else have this happen yet, I had a 2016 F3T a few years ago but never had parts fall off the bike.

 

[rdkarl]

Was on the way home after picking up my brand new Spyder I went over a rough railroad and the left mirror cover falls off and goes flying into the other lane. Luckily I was able to turn around and get back to it before it was ran over. But now I have a brand new Spyder with road rash all over one of the mirrors. Going to call the dealer Monday to see if warranty will replace it. :banghead:
Anyone else have this happen yet, I had a 2016 F3T a few years ago but never had parts fall off the bike.

Seems to be an all too common occurrence on the F3 Limiteds. I am in the habit of checking the ones on my 2019 a couple of times a week. Good luck with the warranty, I believe others have been able to get them covered.

 

[Peteoz]

The quickest and easiest way to prevent them popping off is some double sided tape, Stangman. Some people have added tethers, others have popped a screw through etc. It is indeed a known issue that has not yet been rectified by CanAm, although some riders never experience it.......luck of the draw, I guess. Just don’t let your dealer con you by saying....”gee, never heard of that happening before” :gaah::gaah:

Pete

 

[Jeffmal]

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The quickest and easiest way to prevent them popping off is some double sided tape, Stangman. Some people have added tethers, others have popped a screw through etc. It is indeed a known issue that has not yet been rectified by CanAm, although some riders never experience it.......luck of the draw, I guess. Just don’t let your dealer con you by saying....”gee, never heard of that happening before” :gaah::gaah:

Pete

As a preventative measure, I popped mine off ( they came of too easy!), I tied on a small tether with 20# mono fishing line which should easily hold if they fall off... easy peasy!!

 

[ChicagoSpyder]

Was on the way home after picking up my brand new Spyder I went over a rough railroad and the left mirror cover falls off and goes flying into the other lane. Luckily I was able to turn around and get back to it before it was ran over. But now I have a brand new Spyder with road rash all over one of the mirrors. Going to call the dealer Monday to see if warranty will replace it. :banghead:
Anyone else have this happen yet, I had a 2016 F3T a few years ago but never had parts fall off the bike.

BRP replaced the mirror covers on my buddies 2019 F3 L when his popped from a pothole.

 

[Poasttown]

What/where are you adding the double sided tape?

Poasttown

 

[pieman9155]

mind came off to and the dealer did replace mind at no cost:spyder2:

 

[Stangman35]

Talked to the dealer today, so hopefully they can get me a new cover soon.

And does anyone know if this cable is the one that go’s to the usb plugs in the rear trunk and which one on the back of the plug is positive

 

[JP58]

Talked to the dealer today, so hopefully they can get me a new cover soon.

And does anyone know if this cable is the one that go’s to the usb plugs in the rear trunk and which one on the back of the plug is positive

That is the connector for the dual usb port in the trunk. Ethier the 19s do not have one or they forgot to connect it. 18s have one.

 

[Nuke]

My wife's mirror cover came off on the highway, no bump. The dealer replaced it under warranty. It's a terrible design how the covers are attached. I really believe that the mirror vibration has a lot to do with the covers coming off. I suggest you get a wedgie. Makes the mirrors completely stable. As to your question about the accessory circuit, that is not the USB charging power in the back of the trunk. That is a plug that allows you to easily tie in extra stuff to your bike. It should follow the standard Black (-) / White (+) configuration. Pull the boot back a bit and it should reveal the wire colors.

 

[Poasttown]

Nuke

"You said that the plug in the trunk is not a charging port but to tie in other stuff". What stuff are you referring to? An iPod, extra phone for music?

Thanks
Poasttown

 

[Charlottes Web]

Dealer replace my mirror cover under warranty

 

[Stangman35]

Wires aren’t black and white,Iv hooked them up both ways and get nothing when I plug my phone in.I keep forgetting to bring my good multimeter home from work to test the wires. There was enough voltage to light up my fuse tester led but not enough to light my test light. When I grounded one side of the fuse tester both wires showed they were hot.

 

[LifeLongRider]

Wires aren’t black and white,Iv hooked them up both ways and get nothing when I plug my phone in.I keep forgetting to bring my good multimeter home from work to test the wires. There was enough voltage to light up my fuse tester led but not enough to light my test light. When I grounded one side of the fuse tester both wires showed they were hot.

Mine was not connected by the dealer at setup either. I check polarity and hooked them up to the terminals under the trunk (which are labeled + and -). The light in the trunk will come on with the ignition but the engine has to be running to get power to the USB ports.

 

[Nuke]

Wires aren’t black and white,Iv hooked them up both ways and get nothing when I plug my phone in.I keep forgetting to bring my good multimeter home from work to test the wires. There was enough voltage to light up my fuse tester led but not enough to light my test light. When I grounded one side of the fuse tester both wires showed they were hot.

So here's what I found in the manual. There's three "customer accessory circuits". One is behind the front storage compartment, one is behind the lateral service cover, and the last one (the one you are looking at) is under the passenger seat. These three circuits are fed by the same fuse: F6R which is a 10A fuse and is on a 12V switched circuit according to the wiring diagram (pink lines indicate 12V switched). The hot line will the the VT/YE (Violet with yellow stripe) wire and the ground will be the BK (black) wire. You will not see 12V until you turn the key on.

 

[Stangman35]

So looking at the third pic it looks like it’s also powering the air suspension? I’m not sure if it’s working, Iv never heard the compressor kick on. I did have those wires hooked up right and got nothing at the usb’s Key on or running. Guess I need to check the fuses again. Another question, did they move the amps on the 19’s I was looking at installation instructions for the top box and it showed 2 amps under it. Nothing under mine.

 

[Nuke]

So looking at the third pic it looks like it’s also powering the air suspension? I’m not sure if it’s working, Iv never heard the compressor kick on. I did have those wires hooked up right and got nothing at the usb’s Key on or running. Guess I need to check the fuses again. Another question, did they move the amps on the 19’s I was looking at installation instructions for the top box and it showed 2 amps under it. Nothing under mine.

No, the fuse is protecting the accessory circuits, the hot is coming in from the left side, meaning the 12V supply is coming in from the left. The portion of the wiring diagram you are looking at shows half the relay supplying selective power from the switched 12V power to the rear suspension air compressor when needed. There's other control signals going to the relay that aren't shown in that snip. As for the amps, I can't say, but it definitely looks like they did. I am pretty sure that there are no more amps for the audio system as it's all coming from the amplified head unit? Maybe someone can correct me on that.

 

[Nuke]

Nuke

"You said that the plug in the trunk is not a charging port but to tie in other stuff". What stuff are you referring to? An iPod, extra phone for music?

Thanks
Poasttown

So, on a hunch, and confused as to why the USB port in the trunk wasn't on any wiring diagram in the manual, I went down to the bike and took a look for myself. I was surprised to see that the customer accessory circuit under the seat was being used to power the USB port in the trunk. I was frankly shocked by this because this eliminates the usefulness of having an accessory circuit in the back of the bike. It's easily remedied however with a little splicing and a few extra spade terminals. Anyway, I was very surprised to find out that I wasn't getting any voltage at those terminals however. I didn't try it with the bike fully turned on, but didn't see how that was relevant according to the wiring diagram. There was nothing denoting that it would be only active if the engine was running. Consequently, I don't think it's getting power even with the engine running. I did several tests last night so I will probably have to check it again, and also make sure I got the polarity correct when I hooked it back up. Being tired and already frustrated at stripping the head off a bolt that the factory (or dealer) put in cross threaded, I may not have payed close enough attention to how I oriented the terminals when I put them back on the USB port. Anyway, I can at least confirm that the rear customer accessory circuit connection is being used by Can Am to power the USB charger in the trunk. A Y-connection would have to be made up to add any actual accessories to this circuit. And why you have to have the bike running in order to power this circuit is a mystery, as is the wiring diagram that does not match this fact. One of the many "errors" I have found in the 2019 service manual.

 

[Stangman35]

Ok bought my good stuff I keep at work home, bike has to be running to power that wire. Don’t know why it didn’t work the other day but it works now. And the USB port lights up.
I guess if the 19’s don’t have the amps back there it makes for a little extra storage, I took the tool kit off the bottom of the passenger seat and stuck it back there, may get a little first aid kit or tire plug kit and stick back in there to.
The stereo system doesn’t seem as loud as my 16 f3t was, May have to dig into that this winter. Amps and aftermarket speakers.

I must have been really tired last night when I was looking at that wiring schematic, anyway it’s working now.

Thanks for the help.:bowdown:

Dealer has ordered my mirror cover, they’ve been making everything good so far. Kind of sucks they are in a different state but they had the best prices I found. :yes:

 

[LifeLongRider]

bike has to be running to power that wire.:yes:

I suspect that the reason the engine has to be running to power the USB ports (two of them back there) is because they don't want you charging your gadgets back there with just the ignition on and possible draining the battery.