2016 RT Limited hard to hold on highway

[south GA Farm Boy]

SAME Problem

I bought a new 2014 RTL carry over last year and noticed it drifted to the right. I took it to a dealer that did lazer alignment but didn't notice any real difference after it was done. I took it to another dealer they checked the steering and mentioned something couldn't be zeroed another tech looked at it said it was ok. I did switch the tires to see if it did make a difference and it did it then drifted left. Went to a dealer in Fargo and they checked the steering again and said it was ok. I mentioned that I switched tires from right to left and then the bike drifted left, they didn't say anything about that. We really like riding this bike if the drift to the right can be fixed it would be even better. I am hoping to get in touch with Squared Away one way or another and have those folks take a look at it. I have read all good things about Squared Away.

Yes, I am really getting frustrated with mine! My 2013 RT Limited ran straight as an arrow with no laser alignment! I just swapped the two front wheels for a short ride, and it did seem to stop the pulling, so I think I have a bad tire on the right side. I thought the ROLO laser alignment would fix it, but it did not! Only have 800 miles on it in two weeks, and don't enjoy holding a $30,000 trike on the road having to hold on to it! My nearest dealer is over 100 miles away, so it not easy getting it to the shop! My windshield and dash shakes when riding, so I feel we have a broke belt in a tire!
Good luck in solving your problem. I guess I will carry mine back to dealer next week, I don't think Can Am will do much! My oh My why did I ever leave Harley!!

 

[JayBros]

Joe may correct me, but if you swapped the tires and the pulling went away or was substantially reduced you have a bad tire problem. Recommended course of action in this case is instruct dealer to do the swap and if same behavior is replicated demand new tires under warranty. Insist dealer spin balance new tires. Alignment isn't going to solve a defective tire problem.

 

[Lew L]

Tire and wheels

My Spyder was delivered with bad tires and/or wheels. I took is back to the dealer with less that 100 miles on it. They replaced tires and wheels. Now smooth riding

 

[cptjam]

Tires

We have seen bad tires many times. Get a set of Federal evo tires, about 125 dollars, for the pair, and see the difference! Tires are a consumed in use item. We go thru a lot of tires in a year! I'm thinking you got bad ones from the factory, and rather than fiddle with an argument, get the Federal tires, ride up to NC in a couple of weeks when I'm there, and let me fine tune it. I'm confident we can unscrew it! Joe

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

I agree with the others about bad tires. I had a constant pull to the right. Replaced the front tires at 14k miles with Continental Contiprocontact. No more pulling.

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

BUDS? FNG still learning the lingo. Also stumped about ROLO.:dontknow:

To learn about ROLO go to http://www.spydercomfort.com/. Rolo is made up from the names of the company owners.

BUDS = BRP Utility Diagnostic Software (maybe System?) Used on all BRP products.

 

[flyday58]

To learn about ROLO go to http://www.spydercomfort.com/. Rolo is made up from the names of the company owners.

BUDS = BRP Utility Diagnostic Software (maybe System?) Used on all BRP products.

ROLO. FOBO. BUDS. It's like being back in the USAF!
:yikes:
Interesting site. Too bad no dealers in NM or WesTex.

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

ROLO. FOBO. BUDS. It's like being back in the USAF!
:yikes:
Interesting site. Too bad no dealers in NM or WesTex.

Well let me see, we also have ECM, TCM, VSS, SAS, DPS, CAN bus, and ....!! Want any more? :roflblack:

I worked for Uncle for 22 years, so I'm well acquainted with acronyms!

 

[south GA Farm Boy]

Joe, where will you be in NC

We have seen bad tires many times. Get a set of Federal evo tires, about 125 dollars, for the pair, and see the difference! Tires are a consumed in use item. We go thru a lot of tires in a year! I'm thinking you got bad ones from the factory, and rather than fiddle with an argument, get the Federal tires, ride up to NC in a couple of weeks when I'm there, and let me fine tune it. I'm confident we can unscrew it! Joe

Joe, thanks for your answers, when and where will you be in NC?

 

[flyday58]

Well let me see, we also have ECM, TCM, VSS, SAS, DPS, CAN bus, and ....!! Want any more? :roflblack:

I worked for Uncle for 22 years, so I'm well acquainted with acronyms!

We easy to spot, ain't we?:bowdown:
Lingo-ing up is always a learning curve for noobs. 1st time I read that someone had farkled their frunk I wondered what kind of peeps were on this site!!

But back to topic. Or to pot-stirring. So I'm pretty sure Kendas, Kumhos and other scooter tires are constructed the same through the cross section if you cut them in half. I'm guessing car and light truck tires are the same. So it's mainly sidewall loading you wanna be careful of when shopping for non-MC tires for the Spydee:f_spider:? That and overall height? Never fooled with tires on bikes before, just always went back with OEM. Try finding a Yokohama for a 71 AT1C Yamaha...:banghead::gaah:

 

[Easy Rider]

Spyder is new, I only have about 800 miles on it now!

Is this your first Spyder ?

I'm new at this, having maybe 10 miles on 3 wheels......but my first gut reaction to your post was "Maybe that is normal."
It does have some handling quirks because of the 3-wheeled geometry.

(Now to go back and re-read your original post and contemplate it for a while.)

Edit: OK answered my own question about being your first 3-wheeler.
The "old" models did have different tires and I think they are better because.......they don't have those two deep center tread grooves, which I think tends to make the new ones follow things in the pavement more.....like rain grooves and bridge grates......and maybe even follow the slight lean of road crown. Both the symptoms you report DO seem to be related to road crown.

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

So I'm pretty sure Kendas, Kumhos and other scooter tires are constructed the same through the cross section if you cut them in half. I'm guessing car and light truck tires are the same. So it's mainly sidewall loading you wanna be careful of when shopping for non-MC tires for the Spydee:f_spider:? That and overall height? Never fooled with tires on bikes before, just always went back with OEM. Try finding a Yokohama for a 71 AT1C Yamaha...:banghead::gaah:

The Kendas on the Spyders are not a true m/c tire. They're built more like a car tire and the Spyder rims are almost exactly the same as a car rim. The reason is spyder tires don't lean and run on the side like two wheeler tires do. No, the Kendas are not the same as car tires in that they are thinner rubber and, I think, one ply where all car tires are two or more plies. They're just plain softer and more squishy. The only consideration for what car tire to use are size and how they handle on the Spyder. The choice is limited due to size.

Do a Google search using 'car tires site:spyderlovers.com'. You'll find pages and pages of discussion on the subject. Your tires will be worn out by the time you read through it all!:roflblack:

 

[flyday58]

The Kendas on the Spyders are not a true m/c tire. They're built more like a car tire and the Spyder rims are almost exactly the same as a car rim. The reason is spyder tires don't lean and run on the side like two wheeler tires do. No, the Kendas are not the same as car tires in that they are thinner rubber and, I think, one ply where all car tires are two or more plies. They're just plain softer and more squishy. The only consideration for what car tire to use are size and how they handle on the Spyder. The choice is limited due to size.

Do a Google search using 'car tires site:spyderlovers.com'. You'll find pages and pages of discussion on the subject. Your tires will be worn out by the time you read through it all!:roflblack:

Yessir, started reading about tires while thinking about getting Dust Devil ( the name I gave her today riding down the canyon in a cloud of, um, dust). Most thread address the rear tire, got a good handle on which way to go there. But I have seen a few posts talking about the fronts. I'll look again. Thanks chief.

 

[south GA Farm Boy]

Federal Evo Tires

We have seen bad tires many times. Get a set of Federal evo tires, about 125 dollars, for the pair, and see the difference! Tires are a consumed in use item. We go thru a lot of tires in a year! I'm thinking you got bad ones from the factory, and rather than fiddle with an argument, get the Federal tires, ride up to NC in a couple of weeks when I'm there, and let me fine tune it. I'm confident we can unscrew it! Joe

Joe, thanks for your input! I can't find a tire dealer with the Federal Evo 165/55R15 tires in stock! They are all on back order for the next 3 or 4 weeks! Do you have a supplier I can get 2 tires from? I have talked to at least 5 dealers today, trying to get 2 shipped to me! No luck, there must be a big demand for them! If you have a source where I can buy 2 tires, email me at [email protected]. Thank Anne for her help on the phone yesterday!

 

[sfcarn]

I agree with the others about bad tires. I had a constant pull to the right. Replaced the front tires at 14k miles with Continental Contiprocontact. No more pulling.

Thanks for the info about tires. I will be checking back with the dealer.

 

[cptjam]

NC

Joe, thanks for your answers, when and where will you be in NC?

We will be in Southern Pines, NC May 2,3,4. Our days are pretty open, as the kids are at work and the grand kids at school. We plan on relaxing after a busy Spyderfest, but will be glad to help you. Joe

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Joe, thanks for your input! I can't find a tire dealer with the Federal Evo 165/55R15 tires in stock! They are all on back order for the next 3 or 4 weeks! Do you have a supplier I can get 2 tires from? I have talked to at least 5 dealers today, trying to get 2 shipped to me! No luck, there must be a big demand for them! If you have a source where I can buy 2 tires, email me at [email protected]. Thank Anne for her help on the phone yesterday!

Tire availability in the size for the front seems to be hit and miss. They come and go, and come again, and then go again. I couldn't find any Federal Formozas a few weeks ago so ordered Contiprocontact. Then a few days later they were available. You just have to keep watching the tire dealers' websites and grab a pair when they're available.

I'm surprised Joe is recommending the Evos as SpyderAnn, his wife, ran some and then switched to Federal Formoza. She says the Formozas give a better ride.

 

[SpyderSteveFL]

I guess I got lucky and got a set on Jet.com shipped for $92 last week but looks like they don't have them anymore. The other place I was going to use was Online Tires - they look like they have them still... https://www.onlinetires.com/products/vehicle/tires/federal/165%2F55-15+federal+595+evo+75+bsw.html

I went with the 595 Evo on the recommendation of Kenny Butler who swears by them. For < $100 they certainly can't be any worse than the Kendas!

Joe, thanks for your input! I can't find a tire dealer with the Federal Evo 165/55R15 tires in stock! They are all on back order for the next 3 or 4 weeks! Do you have a supplier I can get 2 tires from? I have talked to at least 5 dealers today, trying to get 2 shipped to me! No luck, there must be a big demand for them! If you have a source where I can buy 2 tires, email me at [email protected]. Thank Anne for her help on the phone yesterday!

 

[south GA Farm Boy]

FEDERAL TIRES

I guess I got lucky and got a set on Jet.com shipped for $92 last week but looks like they don't have them anymore. The other place I was going to use was Online Tires - they look like they have them still... https://www.onlinetires.com/products/vehicle/tires/federal/165%2F55-15+federal+595+evo+75+bsw.html

I went with the 595 Evo on the recommendation of Kenny Butler who swears by them. For < $100 they certainly can't be any worse than the Kendas!

Thanks for the tip! I will call them as soon as they open tomorrow to see if they have two (2) front tires! I am planning on carrying it back to the dealer Tuesday or Wednesday! They are over 100 miles away, and I don't think they will do anything about replacing the tires even though it is only 3 weeks old with 800 miles on it! If they do it would be with Kenda's!

 

[south GA Farm Boy]

Still having problems with 2016 pulling to the right and handlebar shake

Thanks for the tip! I will call them as soon as they open tomorrow to see if they have two (2) front tires! I am planning on carrying it back to the dealer Tuesday or Wednesday! They are over 100 miles away, and I don't think they will do anything about replacing the tires even though it is only 3 weeks old with 800 miles on it! If they do it would be with Kenda's!

No Federal EVO tires available at this time in the United States!! My new 2016 RT Limited is still pulling to the right, the handlebars shake at certain speed! Let us go over what has been done to it! It has has 5 different tires on the front of it, been laser aligned 2 times with the Rolo Alignment system, back wheel has been aligned and the tension set, front wheels have been balanced 3 times! Do I need to go on? I have a small amount of loose play in the handlebars, is this normal? Could it be a wheel bearing on the right side? The right side front wheel don't seem to be as easy to turn as the left one does! I am running out of things to try! Any suggestions will be appreciated!! Yes it has been back to the dealer!!!