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Why do the tires need to lean, the body itself can lean and the wheels can stay flat. Its all in how you design something.
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Why do the tires need to lean, the body itself can lean and the wheels can stay flat. Its all in how you design something.
More complexity. More weight. Unneeded.
dguisinger
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Blah blah blah
PrairieSpyder
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Yes, I did hear about #2. Guess BRP wants to make available a cheaper Spyder to broaden their market to include
younger riders with a smaller budget.
Didn't hear anything about a hydrid, but if if does hapen I would likely wait a couple of years for them to de-bug the powertrain.
dguisinger
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Yes, I did hear about #2. Guess BRP wants to make available a cheaper Spyder to broaden their market to include
younger riders with a smaller budget.
Didn't hear anything about a hydrid, but if if does hapen I would likely wait a couple of years for them to de-bug the powertrain.
BRP had a video a few years back on their website of a green and white spyder that was a hybrid prototype in association with some university.
dguisinger
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I figured it was about as helpful as the "I want it" and "I don't want it" argument going back and forth.
sledmaster
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Hybrid Spyder
This was the press release from December 20, 2010 on the Hybrid Spyder....the text was copied from a PDF so the formatting is goofy. If they invested 11.3 million into it, it is far more than an april fool's joke. Had both an electric motor and an ACE 600 in there.
Major investment of $11.3 M at CTA BRP –
Development of hybrid technology for BRP’s Can-Am Spyder roadster
Sherbrooke, December 20, 2010 –
The Centre de technologies avancées BRP –
Université de Sherbrooke (CTA)
receives $11.3 million in financial support to develop
hybrid engine technology for
BRP's Can-Am Spyder roadster. This is the only electric
hybrid roadster development project in the world.
An injection of $6.2 million from the
Automotive Partnership Canada program and
$5.1 million from BRP will see the project extend over a four-year period. Steven
Blaney, MP for Lévis-Bellechasse, Suzanne Fortier, president of the
Natural Sciences
and Engineering Research Council of Canada
, and Guy Lévesque, program director of
the
Canada Foundation for Innovation were present for this major announcement, along
with
Université de Sherbrooke's principal, Luce Samoisette, and BRP's president and
CEO, José Boisjoli.
First launched in 2007, the Can-Am Spyder roadster is a totally unique way to
experience the freedom of open-air riding. Its distinctive Y-architecture – two wheels in
front, one in back – creates challenges that push the limits of electric hybrid vehicle
technology. “Our mandate is ambitious and complex,” explained Mihai Rasidescu,
president and general manager of the CTA. “Our goal is to develop completely new
electric hybrid technology for a three-wheel vehicle that uses 50% less fuel and reduces
CO
2 emissions by 50% while maintaining its speed, power and performance.”
“By deciding to establish R & D centres, BRP confirmed its commitment to accelerate
the development of cleaner and more efficient new technologies,” stated José Boisjoli,
BRP's president and CEO. “The powertrain technologies used in our snowmobiles, sideby-
side vehicles, and outboard engines are already the best in the industry in terms of
fuel consumption, and are milestones towards our goal of providing consumers with
increasingly eco-performing technology.”
The CTA is at the heart of innovation, and the cooperation between the Université de
Sherbrooke and BRP is an unparalleled asset in research and development projects.
“As included in our strategic plan,
Réussir 2010-2015, the University is reviving its
distinctive approach to research and pursuing its commitment to socio-economic
development in the Estrie region and the province,” said principal Luce Samoisette.
“Without a doubt this applied research project will produce a skilled new generation of
engineers and have a significant impact on several levels.” Through this initiative,
20 post-graduate students will become highly trained.
2
Original design challenges
The project’s research team is led by Professor Alain Desrochers from the Université de
Sherbrooke’s Mechanical Engineering Department and includes about 30 people from
the University and BRP. The team will need to be original during the development of the
components. The roadster’s compact size alone poses major challenges. Rather than
modifying existing hybrid technology, the researchers will have to design an entirely new
propulsion system.
“Creating a three-wheel vehicle as opposed to a hybrid car poses significant design
challenges that require a very high degree of innovation,” said professor Desrochers.
“These challenges include the lack of space to accommodate hybrid motorization,
cooling problems, aerodynamics, vehicle weight, and noise. Everything must be studied
and modified.”
Over the next four years the CTA will produce three generations of prototypes and their
components. The final product must pass the test in terms of performance, reliability,
durability, and economic mass production. Any technological innovations will be
potentially transferable to other types of vehicles and products.
About the CTA
The Centre de technologies avancées BRP – Université de Sherbrooke (CTA) is the
result of a partnership between BRP and the Université de Sherbrooke. Its mandate is
to develop new cutting-edge technologies in the field of motorized recreational vehicles.
Since it opened in 2006, the CTA has developed two technologies that have been
integrated into BRP products: a technology used in manufacturing the hulls of the new
generation of Sea-Doo watercraft, and the five-speed semi-automatic transmission
available on Can-Am Spyder roadsters. The CTA currently employs more than 70
researchers and students, and expects to become self-financing as of 2011.
This was the press release from December 20, 2010 on the Hybrid Spyder....the text was copied from a PDF so the formatting is goofy. If they invested 11.3 million into it, it is far more than an april fool's joke. Had both an electric motor and an ACE 600 in there.
Major investment of $11.3 M at CTA BRP –Development of hybrid technology for BRP’s Can-Am Spyder roadster
Sherbrooke, December 20, 2010 –
The Centre de technologies avancées BRP –
Université de Sherbrooke (CTA)
receives $11.3 million in financial support to develop
hybrid engine technology for
BRP's Can-Am Spyder roadster. This is the only electric
hybrid roadster development project in the world.
An injection of $6.2 million from the
Automotive Partnership Canada program and
$5.1 million from BRP will see the project extend over a four-year period. Steven
Blaney, MP for Lévis-Bellechasse, Suzanne Fortier, president of the
Natural Sciences
and Engineering Research Council of Canada
, and Guy Lévesque, program director of
the
Canada Foundation for Innovation were present for this major announcement, along
with
Université de Sherbrooke's principal, Luce Samoisette, and BRP's president and
CEO, José Boisjoli.
First launched in 2007, the Can-Am Spyder roadster is a totally unique way to
experience the freedom of open-air riding. Its distinctive Y-architecture – two wheels in
front, one in back – creates challenges that push the limits of electric hybrid vehicle
technology. “Our mandate is ambitious and complex,” explained Mihai Rasidescu,
president and general manager of the CTA. “Our goal is to develop completely new
electric hybrid technology for a three-wheel vehicle that uses 50% less fuel and reduces
CO
2 emissions by 50% while maintaining its speed, power and performance.”
“By deciding to establish R & D centres, BRP confirmed its commitment to accelerate
the development of cleaner and more efficient new technologies,” stated José Boisjoli,
BRP's president and CEO. “The powertrain technologies used in our snowmobiles, sideby-
side vehicles, and outboard engines are already the best in the industry in terms of
fuel consumption, and are milestones towards our goal of providing consumers with
increasingly eco-performing technology.”
The CTA is at the heart of innovation, and the cooperation between the Université de
Sherbrooke and BRP is an unparalleled asset in research and development projects.
“As included in our strategic plan,
Réussir 2010-2015, the University is reviving its
distinctive approach to research and pursuing its commitment to socio-economic
development in the Estrie region and the province,” said principal Luce Samoisette.
“Without a doubt this applied research project will produce a skilled new generation of
engineers and have a significant impact on several levels.” Through this initiative,
20 post-graduate students will become highly trained.
2
Original design challenges
The project’s research team is led by Professor Alain Desrochers from the Université de
Sherbrooke’s Mechanical Engineering Department and includes about 30 people from
the University and BRP. The team will need to be original during the development of the
components. The roadster’s compact size alone poses major challenges. Rather than
modifying existing hybrid technology, the researchers will have to design an entirely new
propulsion system.
“Creating a three-wheel vehicle as opposed to a hybrid car poses significant design
challenges that require a very high degree of innovation,” said professor Desrochers.
“These challenges include the lack of space to accommodate hybrid motorization,
cooling problems, aerodynamics, vehicle weight, and noise. Everything must be studied
and modified.”
Over the next four years the CTA will produce three generations of prototypes and their
components. The final product must pass the test in terms of performance, reliability,
durability, and economic mass production. Any technological innovations will be
potentially transferable to other types of vehicles and products.
About the CTA
The Centre de technologies avancées BRP – Université de Sherbrooke (CTA) is the
result of a partnership between BRP and the Université de Sherbrooke. Its mandate is
to develop new cutting-edge technologies in the field of motorized recreational vehicles.
Since it opened in 2006, the CTA has developed two technologies that have been
integrated into BRP products: a technology used in manufacturing the hulls of the new
generation of Sea-Doo watercraft, and the five-speed semi-automatic transmission
available on Can-Am Spyder roadsters. The CTA currently employs more than 70
researchers and students, and expects to become self-financing as of 2011.
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
sledmaster
Member
Here is the Link
Try this for the link
http://www.brp.com/en-ca/innovation/advanced-concept-vehicles/can-am-hybrid-roadster
Try this for the link
http://www.brp.com/en-ca/innovation/advanced-concept-vehicles/can-am-hybrid-roadster
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
Most of us are aware of the Hybrid since it was first posted and advertised by BRP.
The discussion has been whether or not it will soon be offered to the public. BRP got funding from their government and I am sure it has been on display (a non working prototype) and taken around to many expositions.
The speculation also has been that it will cost $40K plus--if and when--it comes available for sale.
dguisinger
New member
I think a pure electric would be better.... I'm assuming the main reason for the gas was no need to charge it up, but how many hours does it take to charge a motorcycle?? I mean, even a Tesla charges pretty dang quick depending on your charger options and circuit amperage...
You'd go maybe 20 miles. Tesla can go 250 miles or so because the entire bottom of that car is a battery bank. Doubt there is that much room in a Spyder for batteries even with the small electric motor. Let's say 20 is just me being a jerk.
Say 100. Is that enough? Probably not to really sell any of them.dguisinger
New member
You'd go maybe 20 miles. Tesla can go 250 miles or so because the entire bottom of that car is a battery bank. Doubt there is that much room in a Spyder for batteries even with the small electric motor. Let's say 20 is just me being a jerk.
LOL 20 miles is just you being a jerk
. The Spyder has more room than most for batteries.This company, which has a far lower R&D budget than BRP, gets 171 miles per charge city driving on a pretty slim chassis.
http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/zero-s/
An electric motor is much smaller than a gas engine. Take the remaining area, the area that is wasted with a transmission, tank, and radiator and you'd have plenty of room for batteries under the tupperware....
Illinois Boy
New member
Well, this thread has turned sour.
You have people saying others do not know how to ride their Spyders because they would like to see some advances in technology; while others are getting their panties twisted in a knot just because someone would like an electric Spyder, or one that leans.
Geez... People. Get a grip on it. :roflblack:
You have people saying others do not know how to ride their Spyders because they would like to see some advances in technology; while others are getting their panties twisted in a knot just because someone would like an electric Spyder, or one that leans.
Geez... People. Get a grip on it. :roflblack:
robmorg
New member
Where? Recently, or was this a long range speculation from 2010?
Bob Denman
New member
:agree: Everybody seems to just Know, what everybody else needs...
...Whether they want it; or not! :shocked:
ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
When this speculation post started up I went on the internet to see what I could find. I put in 2015 Can Am Spyder and came up with a lot of hits. Most turned out to be 2013 to 2014 stuff. Amongst those teasers I found pictures of the Hybrid labeled 2015 Can Am Hybrid. No other proof--IMO--just speculation. I did not save the links, just reported what I found here in this thread.
We run into this almost every year. Try a search and see what you can find.
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