He recently had the compressor and air bag replaced. Might have happened then.
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2014 RT stranded in Winslow, AZ
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billybovine
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Well all the codes are Can Bus communication errors of some kind. Multiple modules involved. So damaged or shorted Can Bus wires. That could come from some recent work being done. If nothing done recently. Then I would look for water in one of the connectors.
Still do not know!!
So..I see that my friend UtahPete told every one here about my ordeal in Winslow AZ. It started the day before: twice I got the dreaded Limp mode. Took the key off, waited some time and it started again... Being a good catholic boy I said: "I must has touched the brake while the throttle was open"! Double sin: I knew I did not do that and just lied.
Related or not: the bike was starting with a more diesel sound than normal, almost like a cam chain loose before the hydraulic chain tensioner get in function (on a "normal" bike). It started again yesterday after 90 miles at a good clip and went on every 5 to 10 miles after this I decided to limp to Winslow all the way from 2nd Mesa.
As this happened to me a year ago I kind of think it is one the big relay by the fuse on the left side: I did not check it (what for...did not have a replacement!!) but I am sure it was burning hot like last year.
Twice in one year on a flat bed.... I am trying to be tired of my -14 and as the -11 I had before was not stellar either so... I am starting to think about life without a Spyder....
So..I see that my friend UtahPete told every one here about my ordeal in Winslow AZ. It started the day before: twice I got the dreaded Limp mode. Took the key off, waited some time and it started again... Being a good catholic boy I said: "I must has touched the brake while the throttle was open"! Double sin: I knew I did not do that and just lied.
Related or not: the bike was starting with a more diesel sound than normal, almost like a cam chain loose before the hydraulic chain tensioner get in function (on a "normal" bike). It started again yesterday after 90 miles at a good clip and went on every 5 to 10 miles after this I decided to limp to Winslow all the way from 2nd Mesa.
As this happened to me a year ago I kind of think it is one the big relay by the fuse on the left side: I did not check it (what for...did not have a replacement!!) but I am sure it was burning hot like last year.
Twice in one year on a flat bed.... I am trying to be tired of my -14 and as the -11 I had before was not stellar either so... I am starting to think about life without a Spyder....
Last work was on the shock and its rubber cushion, front tires. Living in AZ...water/rain is not an option!!
I've stayed there! Motorcycle trip.
So,where did you take the bike? Have they diagnosed the problem?
It is now at the Peoria Ridenow shop...
Lew L
Well-known member
Last time my RT was at the RN Phoenix, they did not find the problem for 2 months, broke a mirror spring and finally took it to Peoria... half of the body bolts were not fixed and they lied about it during all the time. Peoria at least has a Gold certified mechanic... last time he installed the new shock rubber, forgot the new shock in the frunk and broke the seat mounting. I really miss my dealer in Livermore CA ( and a lot of things from the Bay!!); part of the sh... living in AZ I guess!!
youngers
New member
WOW !
:roflblack: that took me by surprise ! if any need to go too a shop , and I have the means , ( as in the cycle is at my home ) I will take off the skins myself , save money , and kind of know where the bolts are at , and where they will go back on ... ( just picked - up this 2011 , and it had been opened at the battery area couple times and I noticed the lower skin at the foot rest position , the tabs were on the out side of the lowest portion of body work ( if not correct , will rub nice wear marks at both tab areas , also a couple rubber grommets missing , and a smaller under seat bolt missing , easy fixes just something I have seen quite a bit from other folks getting in a hurry )
Some news
So it looks like the problem can be in 2 places: the VCM or a wire in the wiring loom... both of them are expensive and I must admit I have no trust in changing the entire wiring.... too much work to be done perfectly. Dealer is talking with BRP, testing here and there and at a loss!!!
just when the riding season is here in AZ!! And... should do a valves adjustment too... and a rear tire!! Time to sell a kidney???
So it looks like the problem can be in 2 places: the VCM or a wire in the wiring loom... both of them are expensive and I must admit I have no trust in changing the entire wiring.... too much work to be done perfectly. Dealer is talking with BRP, testing here and there and at a loss!!!
just when the riding season is here in AZ!! And... should do a valves adjustment too... and a rear tire!! Time to sell a kidney???
Doc - Riverside
New member
What valve adjustment????????
Ther is no requirement to do a valve adjustment on a ACE 1330 engine as it has hydraulic lifters.
Ther is no requirement to do a valve adjustment on a ACE 1330 engine as it has hydraulic lifters.
Today's new... " can we bill you another 1/2 hour to wire the VCM directly (to the battery??) to make sure it either the VCM or the wire loom..." Basically 10 days in the shop and still no clue!!
Looking now for the BRP customer service...any contacts there? Edit...just called the general line at BRP: "the dealer escalated the problem to BRP..." I feel better now (sarcasm!).
Thks!
Looking now for the BRP customer service...any contacts there? Edit...just called the general line at BRP: "the dealer escalated the problem to BRP..." I feel better now (sarcasm!).
Thks!
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ARtraveler
R.I.P. Dwayne
If the dealer is trying to push a valve adjustment on you...it is time to RUN and run fast.
1330 does not have shims that need adjusting.
Most people find valve adjustments unnecessary anyway. Like a good little boy--I did two of them on two different 998's. Both a thousand dollars and no adjustments needed. Shady dealers like to play this game so they can collect another $1K for doing no work. Caveat Emptor. :thumbup:
IdahoMtnSpyder
Active member
Things are moving
Dealer is trying to get BRP to make an effort on the VCM price and/or a deal in case they have to go for anything else if it does not work. Almost BMW prices!!!
Looks like even at BRP they do not agree on the causes/effects... so dealer decided to choose one of the solution (the wire loom tested OK for him): the VCM will be changed. In between the 2.1/2 hours of testing, the VCM and the 5 hours of work...$1800!!
Dealer is trying to get BRP to make an effort on the VCM price and/or a deal in case they have to go for anything else if it does not work. Almost BMW prices!!!
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