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2014 RT-S Pulls to Right

right pull

Rolling resistance in a tire -- even new tires will cause this -- what upsets me is the fact that the alignment (supposedly) was done -- with no road test afterwards????? -- any good tech will road test a vehicle after they work on it -- take it back -- ask why no road test -- first have them swap tires for you and then YOU road test it -- thats basic troubleshooting -- caster is also an interesting issue as I dont believe there is any adjustment available for that unless it was damaged during shipment!
 
Bob Denman said:
(Another stupid question from me...:opps:)
Could it, by any chance, be due to a highly-crowned road that you're on? :shocked:
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It is not a stupid question.

I spent the first 1500 miles on every kind of road in Southern California. The pull to the right was always there.
I just passed 3000 miles last weekend. I don't feel any pull in the handle bars with the new tires. But on some roads I can not take my hands
off the bars. If I do it will slowly drift to the right.
 
Guzzi said:
Nils888. I understand your frustration! Have a pair of new Federal 165/55R15 front tires going on mine friday. Had Kenda tire issues with my 2012 RT, and the 2014 has been no different! I also swapped tires side to side and my pull moved to the opposite side, so it is definately the tires. Will let all know how the new tires work, when installed.
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Cool!!! Looking forward to hearing your results. :D
 
Hammertime said:
Rolling resistance in a tire -- even new tires will cause this -- what upsets me is the fact that the alignment (supposedly) was done -- with no road test afterwards????? -- any good tech will road test a vehicle after they work on it -- take it back -- ask why no road test -- first have them swap tires for you and then YOU road test it -- thats basic troubleshooting -- caster is also an interesting issue as I dont believe there is any adjustment available for that unless it was damaged during shipment!
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We send all of our customers out for a test drive.
 
Nils888 said:
Hi everyone.


I would like to find a better quality tire to try. But for know I am happy. I can't tell every one how frustrated I was for the first couple
of months I have had my spyder. But now truly love riding every chance I get.:D
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Maybe the new Arachnids will prove to be a much better tire for the Spyder.
 
Nils888 said:
Cool!!! Looking forward to hearing your results. :D
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Ok! Installed a pair of NEW Federal 165/55R15 front tires today! Guess what; no more shake, rattle, or roll! Finally a good set of round tires, just like I had to do on my 2012 RT. ALSO, the pull to the right is virtually GONE! It was driving me and the dealer crazy, but appears most of the pull and balance problems were the Kenda tires. The new Federal 595 EVO tire is a tight fit, but doesn't rub, and runs true. Now I can relax on the handlebars without worrying about running off the road. Seems to have plenty of grip, but time will tell. Now back to ROLO for an alignment re-check. What a shame, with only 2000 miles on the new 2014 RTL, I have to buy NEW tires, to get a good set of rubber. I'm finished with Kenda's. The FEDERAL'S are slightly shorter than the Kenda tire, and the speeeo is now 3mph off, instead of 2mph, and ride a slight bit harder, being a V rated tire, but is a small price to pay for 'SMOOOOTH!!!! I would add that the rear will probably get replaced with the new ARACHNID from ROLO. Hope this info helps some of you that are having the Pulling to the right issue.
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Guzzi said:
Ok! Installed a pair of NEW Federal 165/55R15 front tires today! Guess what; no more shake, rattle, or roll! Finally a good set of round tires, just like I had to do on my 2012 RT. ALSO, the pull to the right is virtually GONE! It was driving me and the dealer crazy, but appears most of the pull and balance problems were the Kenda tires. The new Federal 595 EVO tire is a tight fit, but doesn't rub, and runs true. Now I can relax on the handlebars without worrying about running off the road. Seems to have plenty of grip, but time will tell. Now back to ROLO for an alignment re-check. What a shame, with only 2000 miles on the new 2014 RTL, I have to buy NEW tires, to get a good set of rubber. I'm finished with Kenda's. The FEDERAL'S are slightly shorter than the Kenda tire, and the speeeo is now 3mph off, instead of 2mph, and ride a slight bit harder, being a V rated tire, but is a small price to pay for 'SMOOOOTH!!!! I would add that the rear will probably get replaced with the new ARACHNID from ROLO. Hope this info helps some of you that are having the Pulling to the right issue.
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Cool!!!!!!! Thanks for the update. It is nice to see you problem is fixed.:D
 
Guzzi said:
Nils888. I understand your frustration! Have a pair of new Federal 165/55R15 front tires going on mine friday. Had Kenda tire issues with my 2012 RT, and the 2014 has been no different! I also swapped tires side to side and my pull moved to the opposite side, so it is definately the tires. Will let all know how the new tires work, when installed.
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Just to let everyone know, my 2014 RT pull to the right, was being caused by the Kenda front tires. After (2) new right front wollygog Kenda tires (in 2000 miles) I gave up and mounted a new set of Federal 595 Evo 165/55/R15 tires. All of the pull to the right was gone! Apparently the radial runout layup build on the kendas was off and resulted in the tire causing the Spyder RT to pull to the right. I also had the rear Kenda replaced because of balance vibration (out of round), and a new ARACHNID (Vee Rubber) 225/50R15, installed by Mike at ROLO. What a great tire! Rides smoother than the factory Kenda! Handles just as well, if not better. I also had experienced Kenda tire problems on my old 2012, and cured it's problems with new tires also. BRP should pay more attention to the quality control on their factory tires supplied by Kenda. Just to many problems, to suit me. The Federal fronts are a "V" rated tire, so I have lost some of the ride quality because of the extra stiff tire sidewall, but they stick like glue, and are "round" with almost no wheel weights for balance. Smooth ride and goes exactly where you point it. When my new Elka shocks arrive, I should have it dialed in just as I like it. Just my 2cents worth. Going on a trip from Florida to Tennessee next week, around Johnson City and meet up with some old riding buddies. Gonna spend a few days on the twisty backroads. Will see how it does on the twisties with the new tire combination. Sometimes hard to tell here in Florida with our endless straightaways! LOL! GUZZI
:clap::clap:
 
:congrats: Please keep us posted on how the Federals work out; I think that you're about the first person who has tried them... (That I know of! :opps:)
 
Guzzi said:
Just to let everyone know, my 2014 RT pull to the right, was being caused by the Kenda front tires. After (2) new right front wollygog Kenda tires (in 2000 miles) I gave up and mounted a new set of Federal 595 Evo 165/55/R15 tires. All of the pull to the right was gone! Apparently the radial runout layup build on the kendas was off and resulted in the tire causing the Spyder RT to pull to the right. I also had the rear Kenda replaced because of balance vibration (out of round), and a new ARACHNID (Vee Rubber) 225/50R15, installed by Mike at ROLO. What a great tire! Rides smoother than the factory Kenda! Handles just as well, if not better. I also had experienced Kenda tire problems on my old 2012, and cured it's problems with new tires also. BRP should pay more attention to the quality control on their factory tires supplied by Kenda. Just to many problems, to suit me. The Federal fronts are a "V" rated tire, so I have lost some of the ride quality because of the extra stiff tire sidewall, but they stick like glue, and are "round" with almost no wheel weights for balance. Smooth ride and goes exactly where you point it. When my new Elka shocks arrive, I should have it dialed in just as I like it. Just my 2cents worth. Going on a trip from Florida to Tennessee next week, around Johnson City and meet up with some old riding buddies. Gonna spend a few days on the twisty backroads. Will see how it does on the twisties with the new tire combination. Sometimes hard to tell here in Florida with our endless straightaways! LOL! GUZZI
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Glad you've got your issue squared away. I have the original kenda'a on the front of my 2010 RT S . Never had an issue (guess I got some good ones) now with 21,000 miles on them and still looking good. I agree it looks like quality control in the tire manufacturing just isn't good enough. I am in the tri cities area Near Johnson city. Good dealer there at East Tennessee ATV.
 
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Guzzi said:
Just to let everyone know, my 2014 RT pull to the right, was being caused by the Kenda front tires. After (2) new right front wollygog Kenda tires (in 2000 miles) I gave up and mounted a new set of Federal 595 Evo 165/55/R15 tires. All of the pull to the right was gone! Apparently the radial runout layup build on the kendas was off and resulted in the tire causing the Spyder RT to pull to the right. I also had the rear Kenda replaced because of balance vibration (out of round), and a new ARACHNID (Vee Rubber) 225/50R15, installed by Mike at ROLO. What a great tire! Rides smoother than the factory Kenda! Handles just as well, if not better. I also had experienced Kenda tire problems on my old 2012, and cured it's problems with new tires also. BRP should pay more attention to the quality control on their factory tires supplied by Kenda. Just to many problems, to suit me. The Federal fronts are a "V" rated tire, so I have lost some of the ride quality because of the extra stiff tire sidewall, but they stick like glue, and are "round" with almost no wheel weights for balance. Smooth ride and goes exactly where you point it. When my new Elka shocks arrive, I should have it dialed in just as I like it. Just my 2cents worth. Going on a trip from Florida to Tennessee next week, around Johnson City and meet up with some old riding buddies. Gonna spend a few days on the twisty backroads. Will see how it does on the twisties with the new tire combination. Sometimes hard to tell here in Florida with our endless straightaways! LOL! GUZZI
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Glad you got it taken card of. Yours makes 3 - 2014 with bad tires
 
Bob Denman said:
:congrats: Please keep us posted on how the Federals work out; I think that you're about the first person who has tried them... (That I know of! :opps:)
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Bob! The Federal 595 EVO 165/55R15 IS STICKY AS ALL GET OUT! The only issue with this tire so far, is the speed rating. It's rated "V", which is up to 150 mph, and the sidewall is very stiff! Have lost some ride quality, but to me it's a trade off for a nice round tire that doesn't wollygog going down the road, Like the Kenda's. The tire is slightly wider than the Kenda, but doesn't rub, and it's about 3/4 of an inch shorter, so my speedo is off another 1 mph, from the 2 mph before the tire change. Am installing a "Yellowbox" speedo corrector this week to bring the speedometer back in line. All in all, I'm pleased, for my style of riding (lots of long distance). JMO.
 
Guzzi said:
Bob! The Federal 595 EVO 165/55R15 IS STICKY AS ALL GET OUT! The only issue with this tire so far, is the speed rating. It's rated "V", which is up to 150 mph, and the sidewall is very stiff! Have lost some ride quality, but to me it's a trade off for a nice round tire that doesn't wollygog going down the road, Like the Kenda's. The tire is slightly wider than the Kenda, but doesn't rub, and it's about 3/4 of an inch shorter, so my speedo is off another 1 mph, from the 2 mph before the tire change. Am installing a "Yellowbox" speedo corrector this week to bring the speedometer back in line. All in all, I'm pleased, for my style of riding (lots of long distance). JMO.
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What are you running the tire pressure in the federals?
 
Bob Denman said:
If it's that "sticky"; I hope that it's got some decent tire life too! :2thumbs:
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Bob. It's a car tire! Not interested in how much mileage it gets, but how it sticks and handles. So far handling and stick is great. I would think tire life should be excellent, but time will tell.
 
Nils888 said:
What are you running the tire pressure in the federals?
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Nils888. Ran with 25 psi at first. To hard! Dropped to 22, now at 20psi. Seems about right. Am going on a 3000 mile trip friday, so will experiment with pressures. Rode today down I95 for about 30 miles at 75+ in 85 degree weather. Stopped and checked tire temps and all was ok. Tires are rated for 908 lbs load, so on the spyder low pressures should be no problem with the light weight. Like I said before the only issue is a harder than normal ride due to the stiffer sidewall. One of the available 175/55R15 tires with a "T" speed rating (118 mph) would certainly give a better ride quality IMHO. Remember none of these are made for the spyder so it's a guessing game, and each has his or hers preferences. Will have more input after returning from the trip to the mountains in rain?, heat?, curves, etc. Zhazzam! Guzzi
 
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