2013 ST thoughts from a RS riders perspective

[Bob Denman]

We can't form our own opinions now???
We can't express our own impressions???
People are not posting reviews, just the impressions of what they see.

Oh... Of COURSE you can! :thumbup:

But are you willing to admit that an opinion based solely upon what is seen might be based upon an imcomplete set of facts?

I'm just trying to find some hard data with which to work...

 

[zrc]

Oh... Of COURSE you can! :thumbup:

But are you willing to admit that an opinion based solely upon what is seen might be based upon an imcomplete set of facts?

I'm just trying to find some hard data with which to work...

Sure, but opinions for the positive are just as based on what is seen. (outside of Lamont and Faran)

 

[Bob Denman]

:2thumbs: Somebody is catching on... :2thumbs: :roflblack:

BTW... I've only mentioned the adjustable handlebars and lower air deflectors as being on my radar; if they can fit at the right price! :thumbup:

 

[aka1004]

Oh... Of COURSE you can! :thumbup:

But are you willing to admit that an opinion based solely upon what is seen might be based upon an imcomplete set of facts?

I'm just trying to find some hard data with which to work...

I don't need hard facts to know that I don't like the look of ST nor price tag of $25k. Now If I liked it, I can be flexible on price, of course.
It's just personal preference. No need to get all worked up over other's likes or dislikes or their disappointments.

Like Zrc said, positive opinions are based on same info as what I've seen and read.

 

[Xendrick]

My first thoughts were that the ST is for Single Touring.

Long term passengers will want to be on the RT.

 

[zrc]

My first thoughts were that the ST is for Single Touring.

Long term passengers will want to be on the RT.

:agree: RT back seat is the bomb diggity for the passenger.

 

[Jeriatric]

I rode the ST for several hours and just thought I'd give a quick response to your post, for what it's worth

NO heat issues at all. BRP seems to have finally taken care of this. Forward foot position was completely comfortable.

What ambient temprature was this test conducted in?

 

[arntufun]

My first thoughts were that the ST is for Single Touring.

Long term passengers will want to be on the RT.

Excactly........... With my original post I was only pointing out the shortcoming for anyone that thinks they can tour with a passenger on this model. They should of atleast put heated grips back there and come standard with a sportrack and backrest because not all owners live in the south and ride alone.

I agree this model seems perfect for a single rider going long distance but stand firm on my original opinion for the passenger.

 

[vtrider]

I think the new ST will be a great hit for spyder riders like myself looking to stay on something a little more sporty than an RT, but have some of the comfort features added in. It's a model that I know I will certainly take for a test drive once my dealer has one to drive. They let me test ride most everything that I have an interest in, so I'm looking forward to it.

 

[shelbydave]

Looking at the mods that I've seen on quite a few of the RS's, I think they hit a home run with the ST. It looks like it has much of the RS with the more upright seating position. Then add the suspension changes that were mentioned, and I think there is definately a target group out there that will eat it up. For me, I like the RT... If I were 30 years younger, and Single, it would be a difficult choice between the RS or the ST.
As for horsepower... I can understand why the RS crowd would like to see more, for me, I'm all about enjoying the ride, and scenery, so it's not all that important... I guess I got my "need for speed" out of my system!!!

 

[Jeriatric]

Oh... Of COURSE you can! :thumbup:

But are you willing to admit that an opinion based solely upon what is seen might be based upon an imcomplete set of facts?

I'm just trying to find some hard data with which to work...

:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

 

[Spyder777]

A spit in our face

It's like they're laughing at us by selling us a sport touring model for $25,000 and not even including the OEM BRP backrest. How can you tour without a backrest for your passenger? You can wear gloves if it's cold, but no backrest at all??? So add dealer fees, taxes, registration and licensing, and $700 plus installation for a backrest.

how do you think the iPhone 5 would have flown over if they raised the price on the cost of their new model?

 

[shelbydave]

I thought I saw somewhere that the ST was starting at 18000 to 19000... Right in the middle...:dontknow:

 

[Saluda]

If BRP (Can Am) is listening to us (incorporating our changes) that's good

I like what I see. Tough audience !

 

[Sarge707]

The base ST is aroud 20,900 BUT its not gonna compete with the Old GS/RS because its 160 Pounds Heavier and 6 Less Horsepower!
If I were a First time buyer the ST would be for me BUT at the end of the year when their reasonable.
I admire the seating position BUT its not gonna keep up with a GS/RS with Elka,s and a sway bar in the twisties.
Forget about 2 people unless just around town.
The RS is also listed as 798 or 100 Pounds heavier than the GS/RS? Whats up with that????
The New RT starts at Base $24,900--- Glad I am picking up my 2012 New RT for $17,000 and Only Tax!!!!!:yes:

 

[Adirondack Mik]

Love it

Love the new ST, love the looks, love the improvements, can't wait for mine:yes::yes::yes::yes:

 

[bobnaquin]

It looks like to me that BRP has just copied what RS owners have been doing for years: raising the handlebars, floorboards, new seat, saddle bags, improving the ride etc. They are not breaking new ground here, just emulating where the market for the RS has evolved into. Myself I have added the Givi kit, added handlebar risers, and will address the saddle soon. I already have a touring windshield. When I'm done my RS will basically be an ST, but I would have saved thousands from MSRP. BRP ought to sell a bunch of STs for the not quite ready for an RT segment.

I agree with this. BRP has listened and watched and pretty much brought a product to market that is has what people want.

Am I going to change out my 2008 RS/Gs for an ST that is pretty much equipped exactly as I now have my bike. No. Why would I? But there are some new buyers out there that can get one like mine (and a lot of other people's) off of the showroom floor. Good for them. If I had no Spyder then the St would be the obvious choice for me.

I think BRP is very good at knowing their market and responding to it. I expect that the Rs will be kept as a loss leader for a while and then be dropped because no one will buy them.

 

[Littlebadwolf]

Let me see...Can any of our guru's tell me what the horsepower of the stock RS is after doing the canneroskopy (sp)...adding the Hindle, K&N filter and 0-2 modifier?..Close to 120 HP I would imagine....I'll take on the RSS anytime. Then considering the thousands I've put into transforming my stock RS into a machine that I'm totally delighted with...such as the Elka shocks, EVO swaybar, Madstad windshield, Skin wrap by Pete, Garmin 660 GPS, Drift 170 Video/still can, corbin seats, passenger backrest, saddlebags, Day Runner lights, Triple Play, Mudflap & fender tip lights, trunk liner...even more...My baby runs perfect...not a single problem that wasn't self inflicted...I like the new RS but......It's all about the ponies and the fact I've got my baby personalized the way I want it...Will I get the new design?....Maybe, but definitely not at this point, a XM radio seems like it's a possible fit with my machine.

 

[retread]

So I've seen the pics, read the info, and I know my next ride will be a Spyder, which one? I'll decide right after I see/ride them. The power is enough to do what I want to do, the big thing is how it feels on the road.

john

 

[Bob Denman]

Love the new ST, love the looks, love the improvements, can't wait for mine:yes::yes::yes::yes:

Thumbs-up from the boss??? :2thumbs: hyea: :yes: