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2013 ST or 2013 RT?

Saw an ST this past weekend at a ride our dealer had sponsered. The local BRP rep had it there............(remember this is coming from an RT guy) it was OK? Personally I often wonder when a "middle" of the line-up model comes out like the ST will they end up producing something that is great at nothing but OK at most things?

Good luck but I think it is going to be tough to find that happy medium........ Get the RT and a new "Ninja" and you should be good to go? Oh and for goodness sake dump the Victory:roflblack: I wondered who was the one who had bought one?
 
I personally never liked the looks and feel of the RT and never will. I purchased an RS based upon its sporty looks and performance.

Agreed. I liked the looks of the RS better than the RT but I bought the RT because our requirement is for 2-up touring and the luggage space and comfort built into the RT is exactly what we needed to cover the miles. You are right, the RS is the more exciting machine but sporty riding long distances can be tiring, when you arrive at your hotel in the evening you want to feel fresh enough to visit to the bar and restaurant. If you are so worn out you crash out on your bed until morning think what you'd be missing! ;)
 
I ryde on the evening an hour or so or a sunday trip with some bikerfriends ..so the RS is the right for me

3-4 times in the year we do a longer weekend over the mountains (2up) so I need 2(3?) cases without them my wife would not ryde with me

and for me without the cases the spyder looks 100% more sporty/faster/dynamic ..

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here is my 2 year old problem - it costs me always 100 mls extra to drive to venice with the RT
 
I love the comfort and ride of my RT! But having rode the RS, you see the fun factor. Most of our riding is two up, so the RT was the right fit. But if I was alone I think The RS or ST would be my choice, leaning more towards the ST for the little extra comfort and riding positon. now If I had a pile of cash, I would have one of each!:yes::2thumbs::ohyea:
 
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You mean change models right ??????? I forgive you this one time for saying a ST or a RT is a upgrade because your a friend of mine.

BTW, there are a few things I want off your ride if you decide to change models Adrian. :thumbup:

Well Randy, I guess you got me on that one! It's an upgrade for me considering some of the refinements they made on the 2013's. Although, my 2008 GS/RS spyder has been a real good ride for me, so I can't really complain. Now, if only this economy we are in would improve it would make it easier to make a decision on buying a new RT or ST!...$$$$
 
I have had both the RS (2009) and now an RT (2012) and rode them in all kinds of conditions and road types. I have not tried an ST yet. My interpretation of both is pretty much in agreement with what has already been written. What I want to throw out here is that if the only reason to buy a new 2013 model is the front end ride you can get pretty close with Elka shocks and Baja Ron's new sway bar. Both together most likely would cost around $1,000 installed. You could also backfit the new 15" wheels and fenders if you wanted to. A 2012 RT right now is about $3,000 to $5,000 less due to sales deals. The 2012 RT is also pretty sorted out now, available, and has lots of accessories and spare parts in stock. The 500 pound Elephant in the room that no one is talking about is that the 2013's are a new production and may have new production bugs and issues to work out, sort of like the 2010 introduction of the brand new RT. The choice is not an easy once but I envy you having that choice as it is a lot of fun planning and thinking about getting a new bike. Have fun, be safe and ride ride ride.
 
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I agree entirely flamingobabe, thank you. I just hope I can perhaps demo a ST with at least a passenger backrest. Perhaps I would be better off trying to find a place to rent one for at least a week.
Best idea ever! Even if I doubt there will be many rental ST spyders yet I know renting an RS for a long weekend sealed the deal with getting the girl on the spyder band wagon.
it made a "do we want to do this?" to a "hell yeah we wanna do this"
 
I have had both the RS (2009) and now an RT (2012) and rode them in all kinds of conditions and road types. I have not tried an ST yet. My interpretation of both is pretty much in agreement with what has already been written. What I want to throw out here is that if the only reason to buy a new 2013 model is the front end ride you can get pretty close with Elka shocks and Baja Ron's new sway bar. Both together most likely would cost around $1,000 installed. You could also backfit the new 15" wheels and fenders if you wanted to. A 2012 RT right now is about $3,000 to $5,000 less due to sales deals. The 2012 RT is also pretty sorted out now, available, and has lots of accessories and spare parts in stock. The 500 pound Elephant in the room that no one is talking about is that the 2013's are a new production and may have new production bugs and issues to work out, sort of like the 2010 introduction of the brand new RT. The choice is not an easy once but I envy you having that choice as it is a lot of fun planning and thinking about getting a new bike. Have fun, be safe and ride ride ride.

Is it really that close? If so can't anyone make the argument that an RS can be turned into an ST? Pullbacks, Madstad adjustable windshield, comfort seat, corbin saddlebags, moving the pegs if possible(that's probably the hardest to do).
 
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