2013 RTS Se5 Shift Points?

[robmorg]

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Scarecrow, glad to see you're getting more comfortable with the higher rpm's. It doesn't take long, once you make the effort, and the Spyder is more fun to drive when you've got reserve torque available.

I don't think the 1st to 2nd "clunk" has anything to do with oil level if you're within an eighth inch of full. You've probably already tried this, but if not, I'd try varying the shift point slightly to see if that makes any difference. I see that every once in a while, but not often anymore. There's probably a "sweet spot" in the rpm level that maximizes ease of shifting from 1st to 2nd.

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Putting the bike in trailer mode will accomplish this automatically and you can go back to letting he bike auto downshift for you.

I'm fairly used to downshifting manually now without thinking much about it. But out of curiosity I'll try that again, this time for a couple of days, to see what it's like.

In "no-trailer mode", the bike definitely performs better, doesn't lug the clutch, and leaves you with reserve torque, when you downshift sooner to keep the rpms up. That being the case, I wonder why BRP didn't just make the auto-shift pattern like it is in the trailer mode all the time. Maybe it was a marketing decision.

 

[tankguy]

O.K., I'm going to jump into this .

I have a a 2012 RT S SE5, and I have been shifting gears 1-4 up at 5K and 5th up at 65mph. Shift down at about 4K.

Now, here is the new thing that has happened. This last week I was in Durango with the Wife at the BRP owners event and I took my bike to the BRP Tech Tent for a computer problem. I stood beside the guy as he "Reset and realigned the computer with a new program". Since then, I've had to relearn when to shift and where it runs best. Used to be that the computer wouldn't let you shift 2nd until you were above 26mpg and 4.5K RPM. Now it's shifting at 3.5K and 19MPH and it's NOT LUGGING THE ENGINE!! Every minimum shift point has dropped about 1K RPM. I just went into town and the engine was just purring along in 5th gear, 55MPH, and 4K RPM!!! No thumping or lugging and accelerated happily without any lag. I don't know what they put into my bike, but I'm enjoying it and am hoping the that I'll be seeing an increase in my MPG.

I'll keep you posted as to why happens.

Gary

 

[jcthorne]

I have a a 2012 RT S SE5, and I have been shifting gears 1-4 up at 5K and 5th up at 65mph. Shift down at about 4K.

Now, here is the new thing that has happened. This last week I was in Durango with the Wife at the BRP owners event and I took my bike to the BRP Tech Tent for a computer problem. I stood beside the guy as he "Reset and realigned the computer with a new program". Since then, I've had to relearn when to shift and where it runs best. Used to be that the computer wouldn't let you shift 2nd until you were above 26mpg and 4.5K RPM. Now it's shifting at 3.5K and 19MPH and it's NOT LUGGING THE ENGINE!! Every minimum shift point has dropped about 1K RPM. I just went into town and the engine was just purring along in 5th gear, 55MPH, and 4K RPM!!! No thumping or lugging and accelerated happily without any lag. I don't know what they put into my bike, but I'm enjoying it and am hoping the that I'll be seeing an increase in my MPG.

I'll keep you posted as to why happens.

Gary

When he re flashed your ECM, your setting defaulted to non-trailer mode. If it was requiring you to wait to 4500RPM to shift before, it was in trailer tow mode. Earlier shifts do not lug the engine, they wear the centrifugal clutch that does not fully engage until 3500rpm where the normal clutch locks up and takes over. You do not want to be below 3500RPM at any time other than takeoff from a stop. If your engine was thumping or lugging at 3500 RPM before, there was something wrong with your bike, not normal.

I suggest you put it back in trailer tow mode to lengthen the life of your clutch plates. Remember, these are wear items not covered under the original or extended warranties. Wear them out and its on your nickel.