2013 RT Fire, 26 July 2014

[Benggolf]

Sorry to hear about your incident, but glad you made it out unhurt. Machines and be replaced by not a life.
Hope you are able to resolve this case with BRP quickly and be back on a new Spyder soon.
Good luck.

 

[dndfindley]

I think carrying one is worthless. It's been discussed before and here is an example of it doing nothing. Later watch the gas tank go up!
It's not worth your life to try and put the fire out in my opinion! Get away from it!

Bob

Yeah, but did you see how quick it was extinguished when the fireman turned the hose on it? That's all we need - a big high pressure hose full of water

 

[Questions]

No excess heat with my 2011 Spyder RT-S

Scary situation with your 2013 Spyder. Glad you survived the incident.

Since I bought my 2011 Spyder RT-S in May 2011, I have never experienced an excessive heat issue.

I also have done nothing about adding block off plates or the like.

 

[Don in E Texas]

I agree..

The "whys" are very clear on the '08 fires. The drain line coming out of the fuel vent canister dripped right onto the exhaust manifold. Thus began the canister-ectomy.

Later, BRP had the drain line re-routed to the front of the Spyder.

Another brilliant engineering feat by BRP engineers!

Had an 08 or 09 Spyder catch fire here in E Texas. I saw the bike at my dealer. Fire seemed to be centered under the seat just over the fuel tank. Did not have the canister mod done. On my bike, once I removed the Tupperware on my '08 and saw the fuel hoses, canister, etc. the canister-ectomy made sense. Easy $1.50 fix.

Don

 

[Rick H.]

First, glad you are OK... but I would be cautious about talking about lawyers and such. Once that conversation is brought up, you will find most manufacturers will just back off and hand it over to their legal group. This can result in long long delays in any settlement or assistance that BRP may have provided or were thinking of provideing. All conversation with you will just stop...

Funny how responsible people can sound completely unresponsible some times. If there is a problem with the 2013's then you have to find out EXACTLY what the problem is before you will go anywhere in court. Once the cat has been let out of the bag by threatening lawsuits and such you are already setting the stage for a presumption that you are being vindictive towards the company and you will have a much larger fight on your hands than you ever envisioned. A good arson investigator should be able to figure out what caused these fires but it will take some work and some money to accomplish that investigation, not speculation and threats about what the manufacturer has or has not done to correct the problem if there is one. Best course of action in these matters is to keep your mouth closed to making threats about lawsuits and such and determine what actually happened, then proceed to court if necessary. Saber rattling does little to help your cause.

Rick

 

[jaherbst]

Yes, Jack, they were all 2013 RTs.



My purge valve had malfunctioned (among many other things) and the canister was not replaced just prior to the fire. I would say that mine was caused by the canister melting but the damage was too severe. The recall instructions to the dealers were to wrap the master cylinder, the evap canister and the parking brake. Many people posted pictures of their canisters that had partially melted which reinforced my belief.

Well that is disappointing to hear. I like my 2013.

Mine was checked but seemed OK

 

[robmorg]

My purge valve had malfunctioned (among many other things) and the canister was not replaced just prior to the fire. I would say that mine was caused by the canister melting but the damage was too severe. The recall instructions to the dealers were to wrap the master cylinder, the evap canister and the parking brake. Many people posted pictures of their canisters that had partially melted which reinforced my belief.

Thank you, Ann. I believe that is helpful information. As many others have alluded, there is comfort in trying to be proactive in dealing with the ramifications of this 2013 heat problem - especially since BRP is not doing that very quickly, if at all.

 

[Gundam]

Glad that the rider is ok.... but it spells bad news for us 2013's :spyder2:s owners.... the band aid fix from BRP may or may not have work.... but since I'm half way around the globe from BRP, I have to hasten my installation of additional active cooling systems to my :spyder2:..... voiding any waranty or not!.... and I don't think BRP's arm is long enough to ever reach out to me here!...

 

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: You certainly ARE in a unique situation over there... :thumbup:
The best of luck to you in your endeavors! :2thumbs:

 

[oldguyinTX]

Steve, are you following this thread. Someone from BRP should be.

 

[finless]

Yeah, but did you see how quick it was extinguished when the fireman turned the hose on it? That's all we need - a big high pressure hose full of water

My opinion on that is because by now the tupperware was all burned off, gas burned out, and the hose was able to get at the source!

Bob

 

[Bob Denman]

Send him a PM, with a link to it. Nobody has any way of knowing if he has seen it :shocked:. All that we can do; is try! :thumbup:

 

[robmorg]

Send him a PM, with a link to it. Nobody has any way of knowing if he has seen it :shocked:. All that we can do; is try! :thumbup:

:agree: but they've most likely seen the thread. I'm sure BRP has a strict gag order on it with respect to comment from any BRP employee or representative. Whether or not they are continuing to work on the 2013 problem, there is absolutely nothing they could say in this thread that would not have the potential of increased risk to corporate liability.

 

[Bob Denman]

I wouldn't have expected him to post in an open forum about it either...
They would call "Mr. Guy", and get down to business directly...
After all...

 

[SpyderAnn01]

BRP Care responded here after my fire. But you are right, they probably won't do that again.

 

[Bob Denman]

Ann,
As a completely unrelated topic...
You have to be well over 100,000 miles in total Spyder seat-time now; aren't you? :dontknow:

 

[MikeT]

What is the resolution of Dat-Guys meltdown?????????????????

 

[robmorg]

It only happened two days ago on Saturday. He said he'd update the forum with pertinent information when that occurs.

 

[jerpinoy]

Glad you're ok physically, what about mentally? BRP should recall all 2013"s and take them all out of all hands and just replace them with 2014 before worst thing will happen.

Trying to fix 2013 heat issues proves its not enough. Get rid of them.

This last fire is the real canary. My friends who own 2013 make your smart decision and good luck.

 

[Tazzel]

BRP acknologying anything implies guilt/responsibility. Either way BRP loses, do they repair/replace 2013's or do they payoff potential lawsuits. So they will do nothing and ride the train as long as they can to see where it ends ends up and hope their deep pockets outlasts the other guys.