2013 BajaRon Sway Bar Owners!

[BajaRon]

If you have a 2013 Spyder and have had one of my custom sway bars mounted (regardless of model) AND you have had issues with the bar moving all the way to one side and staying there, PLEASE email me at [email protected] or PM me here at Spyderlovers.

I've got the fix almost ready to ship. Most do not need it. But for those that do, I want to get things going.

The fix is a modified collar that will mount against the Sway Bar Bushing. It can be installed without removing anything. That was very important to me (and to you, I'm sure).

This is not a temporary patch or Micky Mouse fix. It will be a permanent solution.

This DOES NOT affect any other Spyder model Sway Bar Kit.

 

[Dan McNally]

I haven't installed mine, yet . . . is this something I need . . . how much?

 

[3 Wheel Addict]

Sent you a PM. Mine floats to the left but I have a fix, is yours going to be stainless?? (I hope)

 

[SNOOPY]

Sent

 

[Chupaca]

Nice work..!!

on the ball as usual...your one of the few..!! :2thumbs:

 

[BajaRon]

I haven't installed mine, yet . . . is this something I need . . . how much?

Maybe. As far as I know, only a few have had the problem. No one should have had this problem, and why some do is still a mystery. It's easier to produce a solution than figure out the why as I do not have access to the Spyders that need the fix.

These collars will be easy to install after the bar is on, but to answer your price question, the set will be $5 shipped. Which is less than 1/2 what they will cost me to send out. I hope people feel that is fair.

Sent you a PM. Mine floats to the left but I have a fix, is yours going to be stainless?? (I hope)

Mine will be Clear Anodized Billet Aluminum. In the picture of your 'Fix' the cowling is missing. What did you do about that as it appears the clamp is too large to work with the cowling that mounts in this area.

 

[Indyron]

How would I check " bar moving all the way to one side and staying there"? Pics?

 

[RBS66]

Hi Ron
I purchased your bar in October 2013 and had it installed on my 2013 RT by my dealer. I haven't put many miles on my bike since it was installed but it sure does make a difference in the ride. I haven't noticed any movement all the way to one side I will have to check it when my riding season starts back up. Will they still be available to us at a future date if needed.
thanks Rob

 

[SNOOPY]

Do these commonly move to a certain side?

Mine is to the right.

Does tightening the mount pieces help, I remember snugging them pretty good, but didn't want to crush them.

 

[BajaRon]

Do these commonly move to a certain side?

Mine is to the right.

Does tightening the mount pieces help, I remember snugging them pretty good, but didn't want to crush them.

It is common for the bar to move some, both ways. It is NOT common for the bar to move all the way to one side and stay there. The reason the Pre-2013 sway bar kits came with limiting collars is because there was NO ROOM for the bar to move at all so it had to be limited.

The 2013/14 Spyder has quite a bit of room and plenty of space to move the normal amount. For some reason, on some Spyders, the bar moves all the way to one side and stays there. These are the only Spyders that need this 'Fix'. Though it certainly isn't going to hurt if you want to put collars on whether it needs them or not.

 

[SNOOPY]

The thing I don't like about it moving "too far" is that I can see the links bent quite a bit and wonder if it will decrease their life span.

 

[BajaRon]

How would I check " bar moving all the way to one side and staying there"? Pics?

I didn't mean to alarm my 2013 sway bar customers. There are a few Spyders where the bar moves as far as it can go to one side and stays there. These are the only Spyders that really need this 'Fix'.

It is relatively easy to tell if your bar has the problem. Here are some pictures that I hope will help.

The top of the Heim Joint Link attaches by through bolt, in a channel welded to the lower A-Arm, Picture #3 If your Links are contacting the mounting channel in the area of the red arrows then you need to contact me. This is the condition that needs to be corrected.

Looking at the sway bar from the front of the Spyder, the links on both sides should be near vertical. If they are both slanted left or both slanted right a bit, it's not a problem. Some movement of the bar, left to right, is expected and well within tolerance. That is the way the system is designed to work as the bar SHOULD be self centering.

Picture #1 - In the 'Sway Bar Centering' picture, the top visual shows the Heim Joint Links canted all the way to the Right (I.E the sway bar has moved all the way to the right). This is what you do not want.

The lower sway bar system is correct, with the Links in a more vertical position.

Picture #1

Picture #2 - The link on the left would correlate to the upper picture above, canted all the way to the right. The link on the right in Picture #2 is not perfectly vertical, but is not a problem as it is only slightly canted.


Picture #2

Picture #3 represents a link mounted in the channel of a 2013 Spyder. Visualize the bottom of the link moved all the way to the right (as in Picture #2), until the link contacts the lower portion of the mounting channel at the red arrow. This is the condition that is unacceptable. If the sway bar moves so far left or right that the link is coming into contact with the mounting channel, your 2013 Spyder needs the collars that I am making.

Picture #3

 

[BajaRon]

Do these commonly move to a certain side?

Mine is to the right.

Does tightening the mount pieces help, I remember snugging them pretty good, but didn't want to crush them.

It is common and expected for the bar to move some to both sides. This is normal. It is NOT normal for the bar to move all the way to one side and stay there. This is what I am working to correct in those 2013 Spyders where it occurs.

No, tightening the bushings will not prevent the bar moving left or right.

The thing I don't like about it moving "too far" is that I can see the links bent quite a bit and wonder if it will decrease their life span.

I am assuming you have the OEM links. I would be surprised if they are bent. It is more likely that they are simply rotated, which is not a problem. But any contact with the mounting channel is a problem and moving all the way to the right is a problem. You may have already but it is important that you email me so I can be sure to have you in my database.

 

[SNOOPY]

I have your latest links :2thumbs:

 

[BajaRon]

I have your latest links :2thumbs:

Ok, I don't think you meant that the links are 'Bent', you mean they are canted. That makes sense. If you have not emailed me please do so I can correlate you in my records and get a set of the collars out to you.

 

[bhfromme]

If anyone is on the fence regarding Ron's sway bar let me tell you it's the best $200 I ever spent. You know when you're passing a semi on the highway and the bike jumps around on you? Well with Ron's sway bar on my 2011 RT there is no more of that. I'll notice I'm getting blown around but the bike stays steady and true. And cornering is so much safer. You basically just have so much more control I find it to be absolutely amazing. Best mod evah!

 

[jcthorne]

Thanks Ron. Look forward to getting the limiters installed. I have no problem with the $5 to help offset the cost a bit. Just send me a paypal invoice when they are ready to ship.

 

[3 Wheel Addict]

Maybe. As far as I know, only a few have had the problem. No one should have had this problem, and why some do is still a mystery. It's easier to produce a solution than figure out the why as I do not have access to the Spyders that need the fix.

These collars will be easy to install after the bar is on, but to answer your price question, the set will be $5 shipped. Which is less than 1/2 what they will cost me to send out. I hope people feel that is fair.



Mine will be Clear Anodized Billet Aluminum. In the picture of your 'Fix' the cowling is missing. What did you do about that as it appears the clamp is too large to work with the cowling that mounts in this area.

It clears, but it is a tight fit. I machined the back of the collar so it doesn't rub the metal just on the white plastic block. I did not want to spend a huge amount of time making collars from stock so I just purchased a pair of collars from ACE hwd. and machined the hole to the proper size and relief cut the back side. Rust is my only concern, but it fixed the bar sliding left.

 

[3 Wheel Addict]

So are you going to provide the collars to the people that have bought the bar? I think mine came from Spyderpops website not directly from you, will that matter??

 

[BajaRon]

So are you going to provide the collars to the people that have bought the bar? I think mine came from Spyderpops website not directly from you, will that matter??

It does not matter when, or who you purchased the bar from, as long as it is my bar. If my bar is not working properly in your Spyder, we both want it fixed.

To put some perspective on this. Of the more than 1,000 of my bars on 2013 Spyders, I have 4 owners, so far, that have informed me that they believe they have this problem. My purpose for opening this Pandora's box is so that people will check their bar.

Even if the bar is moving all the way to one side, it will still work and there is little chance of real damage over a few thousand miles.