2012 Spyder RS won't run, dash doesn't light up - any ideas?

[Chasdog]

Update on the 2012 Spyder roadster. Shop called with the diagnosis. It goes as follows the main relay #2 was in the wrong place which after moving it , allowed the front screen to come on and the paddle shifter to operate. So a rather simple solution. Mileage was 4597.
So thanks to all contributors to this thread. I appreciate all the support.
So I’m going to have them change the oil and put it up for sale. Thanks again guys.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Update on the 2012 Spyder roadster. Shop called with the diagnosis. It goes as follows the main relay #2 was in the wrong place which after moving it , allowed the front screen to come on and the paddle shifter to operate. So a rather simple solution. Mileage was 4597.
So thanks to all contributors to this thread. I appreciate all the support.
So I’m going to have them change the oil and put it up for sale. Thanks again guys.

Interesting ..... but - how did that Relay get in the wrong place, they don't move by themselves ...... Mike :thumbup:

 

[Isopedella]

Ta for reporting back on this. :clap:

Whodathunk it.

Kudos to the Tech that identified the problem. Great to hear a positive result from dealers workshop.

So why are you putting it up for sale?

 

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Update on the 2012 Spyder roadster. Shop called with the diagnosis. It goes as follows the main relay #2 was in the wrong place which after moving it , allowed the front screen to come on and the paddle shifter to operate. So a rather simple solution. Mileage was 4597.
So thanks to all contributors to this thread. I appreciate all the support.
So I’m going to have them change the oil and put it up for sale. Thanks again guys.

I think they fed you a line of bull. I just looked at the wiring diagram for my 2014 which should be pretty much identical to the 2012 diagram. The only relays that are feeding the cluster is the Hi headlight relay to light the Hi beam indicator, the load shedding relay, and the suspension relay. I don't see how any of them could cause the cluster to not turn on unless the contacts were welded together or burned so they were not conducting. In this case the incorrect state of the relay when you turned on the power may have mucked up the cluster. All three of those relays are the same so there is no way one could have been in the wrong place.

I think one of the relays was bad and when the tech swapped the relays he unknowingly caused the relay to start working correctly. Or maybe he replaced the relay with a used one and didn't want to admit to that. Or worse yet, he jiggled wires and had no idea what actually caused things to work again, and so he made up a story to cover his behind and make you think he was a semi-genius.

To be on the safe side I would buy three new relays to replace the ones that feed into the cluster. That will give you confidence the buyer won't encounter the same problem shortly after buying it, and you can sleep better!

In any case, the cluster is lighting up and all is well, that is unless a relay starts acting up again, or a loose wire connection rears its head again.

 

[Chasdog]

Interesting ..... but - how did that Relay get in the wrong place, they don't move by themselves ...... Mike :thumbup:

I suspect the past owner moved the relay.

 

[Chasdog]

Ta for reporting back on this. :clap:

Whodathunk it.

Kudos to the Tech that identified the problem. Great to hear a positive result from dealers workshop.

So why are you putting it up for sale?

I have a newer spyder and don’t really need 2 of them.

 

[Chasdog]

I think they fed you a line of bull. I just looked at the wiring diagram for my 2014 which should be pretty much identical to the 2012 diagram. The only relays that are feeding the cluster is the Hi headlight relay to light the Hi beam indicator, the load shedding relay, and the suspension relay. I don't see how any of them could cause the cluster to not turn on unless the contacts were welded together or burned so they were not conducting. In this case the incorrect state of the relay when you turned on the power may have mucked up the cluster. All three of those relays are the same so there is no way one could have been in the wrong place.

I think one of the relays was bad and when the tech swapped the relays he unknowingly caused the relay to start working correctly. Or maybe he replaced the relay with a used one and didn't want to admit to that. Or worse yet, he jiggled wires and had no idea what actually caused things to work again, and so he made up a story to cover his behind and make you think he was a semi-genius.

To be on the safe side I would buy three new relays to replace the ones that feed into the cluster. That will give you confidence the buyer won't encounter the same problem shortly after buying it, and you can sleep better!

In any case, the cluster is lighting up and all is well, that is unless a relay starts acting up again, or a loose wire connection rears its head again.

Thanks for the post. You may be right on your assumption. I’m just glad the thing works.

 

[Chasdog]

I rode it home today from the dealership and it ran great. I see why folks like the vtwin roadster. A very fun bike.

 

[Chasdog]

Well I sold the roadster yesterday, so that concludes my project. Traded in the 2019 can am spyder rt for a new 2023 Spyder RT Limited. A red and black one.
The new one will be much easier to do oil changes and service and it seems a bit more comfortable than the 2019.