2011 RT

[Lamonster]

I was asked if I would post this here as some of you might have missed it.


The RT lineup added a few new colors and some tweaks to the existing package. There is now a Pure Magnesium Metallic, Viper Red and a Limited Edition Pearl White.
2011 RT Spec. Sheet

There is a new calibration of the for the front suspension too.

There has been some tweaks to the air management too.

 

[stevedfive]

Did BRP upgrade the seat and if so, to what?

 

[chris56]

i was also intrested in some different seats and maybe adjustable handlebars..

 

[Lamonster]

I don't remember reading anything about the seat being upgraded. Check the spec sheet.

 

[zeebill]

Do the shock changes mean they have changed the preload springs or merely the shock valving? The inadaquate springs are not going to be solved by changing shock valving that will merely slow the wallowing and leaning down. Another cheap and quick fix? :gaah: Bill

 

[Lamonster]

Do the shock changes mean they have changed the preload springs or merely the shock valving? The inadaquate springs are not going to be solved by changing shock valving that will merely slow the wallowing and leaning down. Another cheap and quick fix? Bill

It's a new shock and spring.

 

[zeebill]

It's a new shock and spring.

Shame if it is for you as if it really works it would have saved you changing all the springs, shocks, and bars at your expense. It would have been nice of them to have a real recall and replace a bad part at their expense. I assume it should be interchangeable onto the 2010 RT's so we can spend our money to solve their mistake that we have to live with?

Time and owner feedback will tell us whether it really works or not I guess. I have stopped even looking at any reviews on these trikes as they have the trike so little time for a review they have no idea of the flaws that appear. I would love to see Autoweek get a hold of one on a long term test over say a year and give a good objective review and see what comes out of it, instead of the one shot week or day type we often see. I also wonder how much this is scewed by the association of the presenter with the company. Often what comes out all roses has more manure than what shows at first. Bill

 

[widowmaker2011]

Shame if it is for you as if it really works it would have saved you changing all the springs, shocks, and bars at your expense. It would have been nice of them to have a real recall and replace a bad part at their expense. I assume it should be interchangeable onto the 2010 RT's so we can spend our money to solve their mistake that we have to live with?

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Bill, Upgrading to a new front end shock calibration isn't anywhere close to recall status. I own 2 RTS's , one is ridden by my wife and the other , me . She runs her shocks full stiff and I run mine one notch from full stiff. Stiffer shocks aren't anything I need nor does she at this point , we are very happy with the handling of our RTS's. Stiffer shocks are wanted by some but wouldn't do us any good. Every car and bike manufacturer updates their models every year and those are just that...updates and changes , not recalls. Bash BRP all you want but on this note you are way way off base. To use your logic , the hindle pipe on the RS Spyder adds horsepower and torque , so should all the RS owners get those as a recall over their stock pipes? The Touring windshield eliminates wind noise , making the ride safer and less fatiguing on the RS versus the small stock shield so stock shields should be replaced by a recall too in your world on the Rs's.
Lastly My 2007 Toyota came with Bridgestone tires, at 28,000 at lease end they were noisy and chopped even though I had aligned and rotated them on schedule. Re-leased the same model 2009 and it had michelins. I have 33,000 on that car and the tires are great and are quieter than the bridgestones ever were. Should Toyota recall all the 2008's? No , they made in IMPROVEMENT. What , is BRP supposed to not improve their machines? There are always legitimate complaints about any manufacturer incuding BRP, but this? No way. :chill:

 

[Lamonster]

:agree:
Posted pretty much the same thing here.
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=244797&postcount=9

 

[dave01]

Heck, I'm gonna try a set just because its fun to experiment with stuff like this. Plus, if it works, I saved myself a ton of money over aftermarket shocks.

 

[zeebill]

Bill, Upgrading to a new front end shock calibration isn't anywhere close to recall status. I own 2 RTS's , one is ridden by my wife and the other , me . She runs her shocks full stiff and I run mine one notch from full stiff. Stiffer shocks aren't anything I need nor does she at this point , we are very happy with the handling of our RTS's. Stiffer shocks are wanted by some but wouldn't do us any good. Every car and bike manufacturer updates their models every year and those are just that...updates and changes , not recalls. Bash BRP all you want but on this note you are way way off base. To use your logic , the hindle pipe on the RS Spyder adds horsepower and torque , so should all the RS owners get those as a recall over their stock pipes? The Touring windshield eliminates wind noise , making the ride safer and less fatiguing on the RS versus the small stock shield so stock shields should be replaced by a recall too in your world on the Rs's.
Lastly My 2007 Toyota came with Bridgestone tires, at 28,000 at lease end they were noisy and chopped even though I had aligned and rotated them on schedule. Re-leased the same model 2009 and it had michelins. I have 33,000 on that car and the tires are great and are quieter than the bridgestones ever were. Should Toyota recall all the 2008's? No , they made in IMPROVEMENT. What , is BRP supposed to not improve their machines? There are always legitimate complaints about any manufacturer incuding BRP, but this? No way. :chill:

Far as I know the Hindle exhaust has nothing to do with handling which can hurt someone which means you missed why I said they should have a recall. The recalibrated shocks and springs were for a handling malady which they should have bit the bullet on and fixed when it came out not in the next model year after more than one person complained about it. OEM tire contracts go to the lowest bidders so I expect them to be dogs and wear and handle poorly on 4 wheeled vehicles but shocks and springs are the manufacturers responsibility. Chyrsler replaced some on the Durango's a few years back along with ball joints that were bad too. That is a recall and no it wasn't the next years model to correct it either because that way the consumer has to pay for it.

I am sorry I fail to see anything you mentioned that showed any logic or that BuRP didn't fail to act responsibly and endanger consumers. Bill :lecturef_smilie:

 

[widowmaker2011]

Far as I know the Hindle exhaust has nothing to do with handling which can hurt someone which means you missed why I said they should have a recall. The recalibrated shocks and springs were for a handling malady which they should have bit the bullet on and fixed when it came out not in the next model year after more than one person complained about it. OEM tire contracts go to the lowest bidders so I expect them to be dogs and wear and handle poorly on 4 wheeled vehicles but shocks and springs are the manufacturers responsibility. Chyrsler replaced some on the Durango's a few years back along with ball joints that were bad too. That is a recall and no it wasn't the next years model to correct it either because that way the consumer has to pay for it.

I am sorry I fail to see anything you mentioned that showed any logic or that BuRP didn't fail to act responsibly and endanger consumers. Bill :lecturef_smilie:

Wow- now we've gone to endangering customers. :yikes: My wife and I had better park our RTS's now since we have the stock shocks . In fact Our last western NY group ride where there were 9 RTS's with stock shocks who all loved the handling should park em too. Lamont and a few others have replaced theirs to improve handling in curves based on their riding styles. I can carve 15 mph posted corners at 40 on the RTS and quite frankly can probably cut em as fast as I did on my RS. 2 weeks ago we spent 10 days in Maggie valley NC and rode the BRp and every dang curvy road within 200 miles.........rode the tail of the dragon (over-rated imho) and then shot over to Route (moonshiner) 28 (which is far superior in my book because its more scenic and is 55mph) I was riding with some sport bikes who came over to visit on the 2nd day of the trip and was hanging right on em in the curves although they would pull me a tad on the straights. :helpsmilie: Sorry to say but if the stock suspension makes you feel "endangered" I'm thinking you haven't mastered riding a Spyder and think you may want to park it. :2thumbs: Don't think anyone on here will convince you otherwise. That whites a nice color I'm gonna give Carlos a jingle and see if I can get me one of them under warranty....this black thing is too hot in the sun and I'm getting 3rd degree burns when I wax it in the sun....(just stayin apples to apples......) Seriously Bill- If your RT doesn't handle right and feels dangerous , I suggest getting it looked at because it isn't the shocks.

 

[dave01]

Wow- now we've gone to endangering customers. :yikes: My wife and I had better park our RTS's now since we have the stock shocks . In fact Our last western NY group ride where there were 9 RTS's with stock shocks who all loved the handling should park em too. Lamont and a few others have replaced theirs to improve handling in curves based on their riding styles. I can carve 15 mph posted corners at 40 on the RTS and quite frankly can probably cut em as fast as I did on my RS. 2 weeks ago we spent 10 days in Maggie valley NC and rode the BRp and every dang curvy road within 200 miles.........rode the tail of the dragon (over-rated imho) and then shot over to Route (moonshiner) 28 (which is far superior in my book because its more scenic and is 55mph) I was riding with some sport bikes who came over to visit on the 2nd day of the trip and was hanging right on em in the curves although they would pull me a tad on the straights. :helpsmilie: Sorry to say but if the stock suspension makes you feel "endangered" I'm thinking you haven't mastered riding a Spyder and think you may want to park it. :2thumbs: Don't think anyone on here will convince you otherwise. That whites a nice color I'm gonna give Carlos a jingle and see if I can get me one of them under warranty....this black thing is too hot in the sun and I'm getting 3rd degree burns when I wax it in the sun....(just stayin apples to apples......) Seriously Bill- If your RT doesn't handle right and feels dangerous , I suggest getting it looked at because it isn't the shocks.

:agree:. Did you ride up thru Highlands. Nice road and awesome scenery too?

 

[NancysToy]

.....Seriously Bill- If your RT doesn't handle right and feels dangerous , I suggest getting it looked at because it isn't the shocks.

:agree: I had serious handling issues with my RTS, and they were not a result of the shocks. These have been resolved. I would prefer less body roll on the RT, but the body roll and lean is not dangerous in any way, unless there are other factors involved that make the heavy roll induce severe oversteer. The body roll might be mighty discomforting to some riders, though, and induce a certain pucker factor.

 

[ARtraveler]

opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:

 

[widowmaker2011]

:agree:. Did you ride up thru Highlands. Nice road and awesome scenery too?

Yes we did, scenery was top notch :2thumbs:

 

[IWN2RYD]

Far as I know the Hindle exhaust has nothing to do with handling which can hurt someone which means you missed why I said they should have a recall. The recalibrated shocks and springs were for a handling malady which they should have bit the bullet on and fixed when it came out not in the next model year after more than one person complained about it. OEM tire contracts go to the lowest bidders so I expect them to be dogs and wear and handle poorly on 4 wheeled vehicles but shocks and springs are the manufacturers responsibility. Chyrsler replaced some on the Durango's a few years back along with ball joints that were bad too. That is a recall and no it wasn't the next years model to correct it either because that way the consumer has to pay for it.

I am sorry I fail to see anything you mentioned that showed any logic or that BuRP didn't fail to act responsibly and endanger consumers. Bill :lecturef_smilie:

I understand your points in this thread, as well as all the others. Frankly I think you all correct in your own way.

But I am not looking for any recall on these. Recalls mean "defect". Not "Improved"

True I very well could be off on my feelings about this... I think BRP chose the settings they did originally because they pictured a more "Laid back" crowd being the majority owners of these rydes. Not realizing even though most of us are laid back, we do like a curvy road and a little spirited driving at times. Not to mention a lot of us live in a hilly/curvy environment.

Not only that, I see more of us ryde two up on these RT's than I ever have any kind of bike in the past... And that creates a need to improve up front...

So this has lead them to try and meet us half way by improving the shocks and springs. All this means to me is I may not have to put our pre-load on #4 and may be able to run on #2. It is not like all of the sudden they will be able to run #1 and now the ryde is to over responsive at the lowest setting. I still do not believe that this will satisfy my driving style and have also purchased a heavier sway bar as a result. These are after all still stock shocks/springs. And every single vehicle I have ever owned needed aftermarket shocks/springs and sway bars to meet my needs/wants.

It is called personal preference in my mind. Not recall.... Just my $.02... :doorag::spyder2:

 

[M2Wild]

Recalls are done for safty reasons. Just because a better product came out does not justify recalling the older ones that does not perform as good unless there is a danger using the older equipment which will ultimately be decided by NTSB and BRP.

 

[fleet]

Ready To Order

I may have missed it but when are the white 2011 Limited's hitting the street and are they taking orders now ?

The main thing I learned is that when you buy a new Spyder, you make an agreement with the dealer that they honor any BRP discounts or rebate incentives that come out after you bought yours. I bought my 2010 RT around the first of June and then BRP came out on June 30th with a free 3rd year warranty plus 500.00 worth of ( way over-priced ) Spyder accessories, they gave me the 3rd year and that coupled with the other 3 year warranty that I purchased directly from the dealer gave me a total 6 year warranty.Plus it's transferrable and if you don't use the add on 3 year warranty they refund your money. Plus if you sell it after 4 years, there's 2 years left on the warranty that's a real deal making plus to a perspective buyer.

 

[ataDude]

... and if you don't use the add on 3 year warranty they refund your money....

Are you sure? This is the BEST factory extended warranty, right?

It wasn't that way a year ago. Once you bought it, it stayed with the bike... no refunds.

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