Hi guys, new member and first post. This has probably been done to death in previous posts, but my searching fails to fine the answers. New to me 2010 Rt settings give me option of speakers or headset, but I can;t see any reference to bluetooth. Does this mean there is a connector somewhere I can plug into to get my helmet headset working? Appreciate all comments.
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2010 RT sound system
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Spyder Hawk
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I believe there are wired cables under the right hand side Tupperware. I don't know what you need to set it up or if it is ready to go or not. Also depends on if you have a wired headset or not. If you are trying to connect to GPS or something then that should be Bluetooth.
pegasus1300
Well-known member
So in order to have a Bluetooth set up you need to get the Bluetooth dongle. It is made for BRP by Sena. You can waste your money and buy it from BRP for beau coupe bucks and still have to buy the connector cable, Oooooooooooooorrrrrrr you can buy the Sena dongle from motorcycledave.com for less money and it comes with the cable directions on how to install and Dave at the end of a phone line to answer any questions on install you may have. I have had mine in for 5 years now and it works great.
Hey Merv, I'm pretty sure there isn't a (stock?) plug anywhere for a helmet headset on your Spyder, unless maybe your particular machine has already got the Comms & Entertainment Package! :dontknow:
However, I believe that all the RT's that had the OE GPS install had an audio plug under the tupperware so you could plug the OE speakers in to receive the GPS audio output; but apart from that, it's either go with the OE Bluetooth Option (expensive!); get an a/mkt Bluetooth Option (not cheap, but also not so expensive & potentially very usable/worthwhile!); or try the (expensive and possibly/probably no longer available?! :dontknow: ) wired OE Comms Option!! :lecturef_smilie:
I went down the A/mkt Bluetooth path, choosing U-Clear over everything else due to its clarity, both for listening & transmitting; their lack of need for a boom/remote mic (built in to the speakers/earpieces); and their battery life - the Missus & I get a good couple of days of solid use between needing to recharge them! And it really doesn't take most very long to learn to plug the unit in to recharge once you take your helmet off for the day! :thumbup:
Besides, once you DO bite the bullet & get a good Bluetooth system, I'd be quite surprised if you EVER even WANT to go back to using wired headsets ever again!! :shocked: The good systems really are that much better!
hyea:
However, I believe that all the RT's that had the OE GPS install had an audio plug under the tupperware so you could plug the OE speakers in to receive the GPS audio output; but apart from that, it's either go with the OE Bluetooth Option (expensive!); get an a/mkt Bluetooth Option (not cheap, but also not so expensive & potentially very usable/worthwhile!); or try the (expensive and possibly/probably no longer available?! :dontknow: ) wired OE Comms Option!! :lecturef_smilie:
I went down the A/mkt Bluetooth path, choosing U-Clear over everything else due to its clarity, both for listening & transmitting; their lack of need for a boom/remote mic (built in to the speakers/earpieces); and their battery life - the Missus & I get a good couple of days of solid use between needing to recharge them! And it really doesn't take most very long to learn to plug the unit in to recharge once you take your helmet off for the day! :thumbup:
Besides, once you DO bite the bullet & get a good Bluetooth system, I'd be quite surprised if you EVER even WANT to go back to using wired headsets ever again!! :shocked: The good systems really are that much better!
hyea:Hi Peter, thanks for replying and the advice. I'll keep the info for later use. In setup, I have the option for speakers or headset, and that is what prompted the question. I have sever al bluetooth units I use on other bikes for phone and GPS, and agree the quality is great, but my wired helmet for my Goldwing is my favorite, as I just unplug when I finish riding and no batteries to be charged. Is there a schematic anywhere which shows the location of all the bits that matter, and wiring diagram showing name and location of all the plugs? I'm sure I will be able to tap into a couple speaker wires if necessary. Quality isn't that important for me as I listen to talk back radio mostly. How do I tell if the OE GPS option was fitted? Cheers. Merv.
The OE GPS option is evident if you've got it, largely due to the (fairly large) GPS &/or Cradle that sits right up smack bang of the top/centre of the handlebar bracket.... So if you can clearly see the 4 bolt-caps on the handlebar centre bracket, then sorry, you haven't got the OE GPS Option! :banghead:
But I did really appreciate the funny you cracked - "Is there a schematic anywhere which shows the location of all the bits that matter, and wiring diagram showing name and location of all the plugs?" :roflblack: That's a great joke!! :clap: ........
Hang on, you weren't seriously thinking that it might be that easy, were you?? :shocked:
NOTHING that BRP has anything to do with is ever that easy!! :lecturef_smilie: And even if you think something MIGHT be easy, chances are that you've either forgotten something critical, or that they've seemingly gone out of their way to make something that SHOULD be fairly easy a WHOLE LOT harder than it needs to be!! :gaah:
The only saving grace here about these things is that our Spyders/Rykers are such a blast to ryde!hyea: :yes:
But I did really appreciate the funny you cracked - "Is there a schematic anywhere which shows the location of all the bits that matter, and wiring diagram showing name and location of all the plugs?" :roflblack: That's a great joke!! :clap: ........
Hang on, you weren't seriously thinking that it might be that easy, were you?? :shocked:
NOTHING that BRP has anything to do with is ever that easy!! :lecturef_smilie: And even if you think something MIGHT be easy, chances are that you've either forgotten something critical, or that they've seemingly gone out of their way to make something that SHOULD be fairly easy a WHOLE LOT harder than it needs to be!! :gaah:
The only saving grace here about these things is that our Spyders/Rykers are such a blast to ryde!
hyea: :yes:
YIRYDE
formerly pman2011
When I had my 2011 and 2014 RT’s I installed the CB option which provided the wiring connectors for the BRP communication headset. If the option is installed you should have a round DIN connector in the middle of the switches and on the panel by the left passenger handgrips.
You will need to have the CB option installed to select headset or speakers. I only used the CB a few times but my wife and I used the headsets to communicate, listen to music and hear GPS directions. I purchased new helmets and a Sena Bluetooth headset in mid 2014 and stopped using the CB and the wired headsets.
You will need to have the CB option installed to select headset or speakers. I only used the CB a few times but my wife and I used the headsets to communicate, listen to music and hear GPS directions. I purchased new helmets and a Sena Bluetooth headset in mid 2014 and stopped using the CB and the wired headsets.
IdahoMtnSpyder
Active member
You will have a PTT button on the left handlebar. When you push it do you see a CB screen show on the cluster? If not, you do not have the CB option installed and that is needed to use wired headsets. BRP dropped the CB option altogether with the 2018 RT. It was not a very popular option before then. American CB options probably won't work in Oz because of regulatory differences. Unless you can find an Australian CB on eBay, or such, you're probably pretty much out of luck. Check this out. If J & M has a version that works in Oz this is probably your best bet. https://jmcorp.com/Stereo-MusicCB-Weather-Radio-Audio-Sys-Solo-Operation_p_261.html
IdahoMtnSpyder Thanks for the reply, I have that PTT button but never pushed it while motor running. Will do so today. The radio system in the link you supplied looks awesome, but would not work down here. Besides, all I want to achieve is to plug a headset into the factory supplied am/fm radio on my bike. There must be an aftermarket harness extension somewhere which would achieve this much more professionally than the result if I attempt it myself.
IdahoMtnSpyder
Active member
You are, unfortunately, running about 10 to 15 years late with your desires!
When BRP designed the audio system they apparently equated the use of a wired headset with CB use, which as you know is on an inexorable path to near oblivion. As a result there is no provision for connecting a wired headset into the audio system other than by installing the CB module, which also provides the driver to passenger intercom. That's not to say it can't be done, but I'm pretty sure no one has done it professionally or commercially as an after market product. Realize that the Can Am Spyder came to the market just as motorcycle communications were beginning a major transition toward the use of Bluetooth. (I still think CB is superior for bike to bike comm, and wired helmet headsets have a lot going for them, but you and I are in a shrinking minority!) So, let me say this. Even though you are opposed to the idea, the Sena SM10 Bluetooth adapter is the simplest way to achieve what you want. The SM10 plugs into the radio and transmits the radio audio to a BT helmet headset. Motorcycle Dave is a sponsor here and has the required cable and adapter at much less cost than the BRP setup.
There is a member here, Bob White (Finless Bob) who developed the SM10 cable that Dave sells. I can send you his contact info. He's also on FaceBook -https://www.facebook.com/groups/1445488259092204. He has not been active here for some time. Dave said he's turned his free time attention to RC planes and whatever. But he may be willing to take one of the cables and connect it to a 5 or 7 pin DIN connector for a wired helmet headset. I do not know the the specifics of what the BRP audio unit outputs are but Bob has figured them out. I'm sure the speaker outputs could be modified to work with a headset. I also don't know the technical specs for helmet headsets. This document will give you a good idea of what you're dealing with to connect a headset into speaker outputs. https://diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/tutorials/power-amp-adapter/.
First, you need to find out what the exact pinouts and signals are coming from the audio unit. Second, you need to know what the specifics are for pinout and signal requirements for whatever headset you want to use. And third, you need to conjure up the intermediate adapter cable which, my dear sir, does not exist anywhere that I know of.
