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2010 RT-S hard starting when warm

DJ51

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I have done a search and find that some people have had a starting issue after stopping for 10 or 15 minutes for gas or something. I purchased my first Spyder used a couple months ago with only 2,800 miles on it. Since then I have put on about 1,300 miles and my only issue right now is that sometimes after stopping it cranks a long time and starts, but gets to 700 or 800 RPM and dies. It can do that once or up to 5 or 6 times unless I hold hold the throttle open some and when it lets me give it some extra help to bring the RPMs up. From those old threads back in 2010 BRP suggested opening the throttle a little while starting which seems to help some but they were looking into a fix. I never did find anything which explained the fix. Does anybody recall this and can help with the answer?
 
There is a bulletin and a fix for this. It had something to do with throttle position sensors. Your dealer should do this for you--for free. My 2010 did it and was fine after the fix.
 
There is a bulletin and a fix for this. It had something to do with throttle position sensors. Your dealer should do this for you--for free. My 2010 did it and was fine after the fix.

Thank you but can you tell me how to find the bulletin, is it on the BRP website?

I took the bike in after I bought it and had them look at it the temp gauge was reading high and I also told them it started hard when warm. They addressed the heat gauge problem but didn't say a word about the starting problem so I figured it must not be anything. I had only had it a couple weeks at that point.

I appreciate your help.
 
My 2010 RT do the same and there is no solution for that (as my tech said). This problem was solve in 2011. When this situation happen, I hold the start button 5-10 second without twisting the throttle and the engine start.
 
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This from the BRP page:


"Your authorized BRP dealer is equipped to verify if there are any outstanding safety bulletins or recall notices applicable to your vehicle using your VIN. There is no charge for this service."

The Hot Restart issue is a known item and your dealer should not be blowing you off.

There used to be access to the actual service bulletins posted on the home page here. Of course I cannot find them at the moment.
 
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If you just crack the throttle a touch; it'll start! :thumbup:
BRP was looking for ways to "fix" this problem, and they ended up with several others...
Just ride the bike!
 
Here Ya Go. Called my dealer for the information.

Bulletin 2011-11 Throttle position sensor.

Covers both 2010 and 2011 RT models. Your dealer should have this information.
 
I have a 2013 and it is also hard to start when warm, and sometimes stalls after I do get it started. Doesn't happen except when the bike is hot. My service manager said he thought it might be the plugs need replaced. Not sure why that would effect it only then, but WTHDIK.

My RT is currently in the shop for the heat recall. I'm having them replace the plugs and plug wires at the same time. Won't be that expensive to do it with everything already opened up. When I get it back next week, after the recall work, I'll be anxious to see if this problem goes away afterwards, and will report the result.
 
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Thanks, I always get it started but will make the better half happy to get it fixed if possible since she worries we will be stranded.
 
Was this bulletin specific to the 2010 RT's? I have a 2013 and it is also hard to start when warm, and sometimes stalls. My service manager said he thought it might be the plugs need replaced. Not sure why that would effect it only when hot, but WTHDIK.

My RT is currently in the shop for the heat recall. I'm having them replace the plugs and plug wires at the same time. Won't be that expensive to do it with everything already opened up. When I get it back next week, after the recall work, I'll be anxious to see if there is any difference in this respect.

Just a guess, but by 2013 the TPS glitch/fix would have been programmed into the computer.
 
Thanks, I always get it started but will make the better half happy to get it fixed if possible since she worries we will be stranded.

I actually got scared that I was going to run down the battery a couple times before it was fixed. Trying to use a bit of throttle seemed to flood it out for me. Full throttle seemed necessary to clear that up.

Bottom line, I am glad it got fixed.
 
I have a 2013 and it is also hard to start when warm, and sometimes stalls after I do get it started. Doesn't happen except when the bike is hot. My service manager said he thought it might be the plugs need replaced. Not sure why that would effect it only then, but WTHDIK.

My RT is currently in the shop for the heat recall. I'm having them replace the plugs and plug wires at the same time. Won't be that expensive to do it with everything already opened up. When I get it back next week, after the recall work, I'll be anxious to see if this problem goes away afterwards, and will report the result.
UPDATE: I got my 2013 RT back after the heat recall and after changing the plugs and sparkplug wires. Between the two, the problem of hard starting when hot seems to be gone for me. Dealer thinks it was bad plugs.

I realize this is a different problem than what was reported earlier in this thread with the 2010/2011 RT's, but since it is a related problem, I thought I'd post this update in case it helps someone else.
 
UPDATE: I got my 2013 RT back after the heat recall and after changing the plugs and sparkplug wires. Between the two, the problem of hard starting when hot seems to be gone for me. Dealer thinks it was bad plugs.

I realize this is a different problem than what was reported earlier in this thread with the 2010/2011 RT's, but since it is a related problem, I thought I'd post this update in case it helps someone else.

Thank you for the update. We always like to hear the end result when the :ani29: goes in for a problem and fix.

Now we have two points of reference depending on what the years are. :thumbup:
 
On 2010 models, there was no vent in combustion chamber. Vapor gas stay in the combustion chamber and it was hard to start after 30 minutes. If you wait more than 1 hour before restarting the engine, the vapor gas was eliminated by themselves.

On 2011 model and later, BRP add a vent in the combustion chamber to let vapor gas evaporate outside the engine. This vent can't be retrofit on 2010 model.
 
I suffered the hard start and dieing for a few weeks after buying the used 2013 rt limited. I changed the purge valve and I threw in the canister for good measure just to cut down on the gas smell. That was a thousand miles ago and I haven't had any problems since. If I'm not wrong they change that hold system with this recall. I wonder if that isn't what solved one of the prior posters bikes after they did the recall.
 
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