175-55-15 vrs 165-55-15

[Baron14y]

From a LOT of folks who tried the Arachnid ….. this tire may be WORSE the garbage Kenda's …… When it wears out consider getting an Auto tire ….. either a 215/60-15 or 205/55-15 …… Mike hyea:

Already planning on that. Leaning towards a Kuhmo.

 

[Baron14y]

From a LOT of folks who tried the Arachnid ….. this tire may be WORSE the garbage Kenda's …… When it wears out consider getting an Auto tire ….. either a 215/60-15 or 205/55-15 …… Mike hyea:

Since I have limited motorcycle riding experience, I have no idea what a "good" rear tire would feel like vs a "lousy" one. I don't hot rod around turns (at least not yet). Haven't ridden in much rain. When the time comes, I have been looking at a Kuhmo Ecsta, 225/50R15.

"this tire may be WORSE the garbage Kenda's" -- NOTHING COULD BE WORSE!!

BTW, like your dog.

 

[Spyderlass]

Don ….. I believe you are " Overestimating " the actual REAL - life effects of the above mentioned differences, for operating a Spyder during adverse weather conditions...

I don't think he is... Mike, the problem with your guesstimate is that it's based on nothing. Your assertion that the tyre is only 10mm wider so it's not possible to feel a difference is silly - the next step is a 185, can you then tell the difference from a 175?, then it's a 195, can you then tell the difference from the 185? And so it goes on. At what point does the straw break the camel's back and you can tell a difference?

I've previously mentioned to you that I run the Vredestien tyres on my 4x4 and I find they aquaplane noticeably earlier than other tyres I've used and I backed this up with a tyre report. I realise this was a bit inconvenient for you since you actively promote that tyre but, hey-ho, it's an open forum for discussion. I will say this to you though, I do believe the Vredestien tyre is a very satisfactory tyre in dry and wet road conditions, just not in flooded road conditions.

Looking at the Vredestien tread, you will notice that the side blocks of the tyre are linked by a solid section and this will give improved stability to the tread blocks but it'll be at the expense of water removal out between the side tread blocks so the only exit for mass water is through the central grooves. Although you diss the Kenda tyres, look at the tread and study the water removal routes and, particularly on the rear tyre, the amount of drainage both to the rear and the sides of the tread. One disadvantage of this is the rear tyre actually has a limited amount of rubber contacting the road so it's life is rather short.

... that being said, here's a question for you or anyone else reading this ….. Do you think it's possible to determine the speed or time difference in estimating when a 175/55-15 tire will aquaplane Vs. a 165/55-15 ….

Absolutely it is.

..also do you think it matters ?

Well it will if your tyres lift off the road surface on a wet day!

Lastly, there seems to be a general notion that wider tyres are automatically better, well It ain't necessarily so. And for that reason I run 155's on the front and 205's on the rear, and I can tell you that the VSS has kicked in and backed off the throttle a number of times in high G corners in wet road conditions.

All IMHO, of course.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I don't think he is... Mike, the problem with your guesstimate is that it's based on nothing. Your assertion that the tyre is only 10mm wider so it's not possible to feel a difference is silly - the next step is a 185, can you then tell the difference from a 175?, then it's a 195, can you then tell the difference from the 185? And so it goes on. At what point does the straw break the camel's back and you can tell a difference?

I've previously mentioned to you that I run the Vredestien tyres on my 4x4 and I find they aquaplane noticeably earlier than other tyres I've used and I backed this up with a tyre report. I realise this was a bit inconvenient for you since you actively promote that tyre but, hey-ho, it's an open forum for discussion. I will say this to you though, I do believe the Vredestien tyre is a very satisfactory tyre in dry and wet road conditions, just not in flooded road conditions.
.. Dear Lady please tell All of us exactly what " tyre " doesn't aquaplane " In Flooded road conditions " …. Your Maxxis ?????
Looking at the Vredestien tread, you will notice that the side blocks of the tyre are linked by a solid section and this will give improved stability to the tread blocks but it'll be at the expense of water removal out between the side tread blocks so the only exit for mass water is through the central grooves. Although you diss the Kenda tyres, look at the tread and study the water removal routes and, particularly on the rear tyre, the amount of drainage both to the rear and the sides of the tread. One disadvantage of this is the rear tyre actually has a limited amount of rubber contacting the road so it's life is rather short.

Absolutely it is.
Well it will if your tyres lift off the road surface on a wet day!

Lastly, there seems to be a general notion that wider tyres are automatically better, well It ain't necessarily so. And for that reason I run 155's on the front and 205's on the rear, and I can tell you that the VSS has kicked in and backed off the throttle a number of times in high G corners in wet road conditions.

All IMHO, of course.

My above comment to this is in BLUE above ……. Mike hyea:

 

[UtahPete]

Well, this looks like it might be entertaining

opcorn:

 

[Entropy]

Well, this looks like it might be entertaining

opcorn:

lol... yep ... the dayum dam just... broke.

cheers
E

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Dear Spyderlass , I have posted how I acquired my knowledge Base and credentials dozens of times and also posted at least a thousand words concerning Tires , brand, model and the PSI that works best in them over the course of 8 years …..I believe, knowledge is power - however a little knowledge can get you in trouble !!!!! ………. Let the " Search function " be your friend, expecting me to re-state or re-type it, isn't going to happen. Over the past 8 years I have recommended tires and the psi to use in them to a lot of folks on this forum, and only a couple of them have not been Happy..... My advise has always been free to those who choose to accept it..... I no longer go over-board trying to convince folks anymore …… all the best …. Mike hyea:

 

[bigbadbrucie]

I think it’s about time to “ignore” a few posters. Another “pizzin” contest. oh, and Mike...I do like my Quatrac 5 fronts...Thank You!

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I think it’s about time to “ignore” a few posters. Another “pizzin” contest. oh, and Mike...I do like my Quatrac 5 fronts...Thank You!

:clap::clap::clap: ………. I have heard of only two that weren't pleased with them, one had them on a JEEP :lecturef_smilien a Flooded road :gaah: and the other said they rubbed something on the front fender ( no one else had that issue ) ……. Mike hyea:

 

[UtahPete]

I think it’s about time to “ignore” a few posters. Another “pizzin” contest. oh, and Mike...I do like my Quatrac 5 fronts...Thank You!

Ditto on the Quatrac 5 fronts. BTW, I got them specifically for their wet road performance reviews (TireRack.com and other places)

 

[LeftCoast]

I have deleted the post of a personal nature and all the quotes. Please feel free to disagree on tire opinions but personal attacks will lead to infractions given.

Thanks,

Left Coast

 

[ARtraveler]

I have deleted the post of a personal nature and all the quotes. Please feel free to disagree on tire opinions but personal attacks will lead to infractions given.

Thanks,

Left Coast

:agree: Another here we go again. The personal attacks need to stop. Heck, we are talking about TIRES here. Not the end of the world. Comments are welcome. Credentials are not necessary. Everyone has an opinion...some are more right than others.

It may be time to shut this one down. It is time to start infracting those who persist in what they know is "wrong" behavior. Many of the players have been here and done the same before.