1330 Triple in other models?

[maliamd]

This is very good information. We currently have a 2014 RT-S and will be going to the dealer tomorrow to possibly purchase a second bike. I am not in the mood to share anymore!! Will be looking at the 2014 ST-S/L or another 2014 RT-S. The test drive will decide which to go with.

 

[Rob Rodriguez]

The 900 ACE motor in the snowmobile is a complete dog. It makes less horsepower than the current motor in the Spyder and has absolutely NO snap what so ever. It would not be a good match for the Spyder. I'm hoping in 2015 the RS, RSS sees a higher horsepower twin as well. I'd say a minimum of 125hp. Something that will snap your head back when you punch it.

 

[Bob Denman]

This is very good information. We currently have a 2014 RT-S and will be going to the dealer tomorrow to possibly purchase a second bike. I am not in the mood to share anymore!! Will be looking at the 2014 ST-S/L or another 2014 RT-S. The test drive will decide which to go with.

Happy Hunting!! :2thumbs:

 

[joet82]

IMHO, why ruin the spyder by making it lean? yes, it brings in new customers who like the leaning factor of a bike, but this platform is how you got your name, and the likeness of an ATV is one thing that attracted me to it. also, it's a SPORT model? why water it down by putting a weaker/less horsepower engine into it?

 

[Bob Denman]

If you're referring specifically to what I posted...
I thought that BRP could get more mileage out of the model by splitting it into two separate and distinct types of vehicle:
The Base RS, downsized, made simpler, and a bit less horsepower. The perfect beginner bike!
The RS-S; with the emphasis on Sport! I only suggested articulation, as a possible place to bring the new chassis into play...:thumbup:

 

[tigerdr]

We have to wait until mid-september to see what's new for the 2015 Spyder line-up.

 

[Bob Denman]

Tick... Tick... Tick...

 

[smokedtires]

If you're referring specifically to what I posted...
I thought that BRP could get more mileage out of the model by splitting it into two separate and distinct types of vehicle:
The Base RS, downsized, made simpler, and a bit less horsepower. The perfect beginner bike!
The RS-S; with the emphasis on Sport! I only suggested articulation, as a possible place to bring the new chassis into play...:thumbup:

I agree. That all sounds like a good idea. A less expensive RS would open the door to more people considering one. Having owned Sportbikes in the past, I loved the power, braking and handling but never was comfortable stopping d/t my short stature. While I really liked the ride and handling of the Spyder, I will miss the leaning.

On a side note, I see a dealer purchased the bike that I was going to buy and they have it up for sale on Craigslist now.

 

[Rob Rodriguez]

Bob,

What you describe for the RS and RSS sounds perfect actually.

I know the price of the RS dropped for 2014 but really it's still out of the range of most 1st time buyers. They need to get it down to the $12K range I think in order for it to really make a play for the low end buyer. If that means losing some features or de-tuning it a bit then it should be done.

Making the RSS the performance sport model with more HP, etc is the way to go. At the moment the only thing separating the RS from the RSS is the wheels and paint. It's really just not worth the upgrade $ in my opinion to go from an RS to and RSS. Yes the fox shocks and stiffer sway bar are nice but you can buy those for $500 or less and install on the RS.

 

[NetJunkie]

RS to RS-S: Wheels, paint, shocks, LED gauge, and cruise control.

 

[sddinnh]

At the moment the only thing separating the RS from the RSS is the wheels and paint. It's really just not worth the upgrade $ in my opinion to go from an RS to and RSS. Yes the fox shocks and stiffer sway bar are nice but you can buy those for $500 or less and install on the RS.

I think you also get cruise control don't you :dontknow:

 

[Bob Denman]

Bob,
What you describe for the RS and RSS sounds perfect actually.

How in the heck did THAT happen?

Further proof that even a blind Hog can still find an acorn; once in a while! :roflblack:

 

[bmccaffrey]

If you're referring specifically to what I posted...
I thought thatinBRP could get more mileage out of the imodel by splitting it into two separate and distinct types of vehicle:
The Base RS, downsized, made simpler, and a bit less horsepower. The perfect beginner bike!
The RS-S; with the emphasis on Sport! I only suggested articulation, as a possible place to bring the new chassis into play...:thumbup:

I disagree Bob on the RS being a beginner bike. Most people buy for price and sport plus hp.
Not everyone whants an Rt or can afford one. The rs and rs s will run circles around thr Rt including the 14.
I would believe BRP geared them toward people looking for sport and price. Or maybe you are referring about downsizing the newer Rs I'm not sure. Just my opinion

 

[NetJunkie]

What he is saying is they could tone down the base RS and make it cheaper as an entry-level Spyder. Then they could boost the RS-S as a more true sport bike. I'm all for that. I bought the RS-S because I wanted the fastest, leanest model. I could easily afford an RT but I didn't want a big touring Spyder. If BRP bumps the performance on the 2015 RS-S I'm in, no doubt.

What I'd like to see:

• 30 more HP
• 100lbs less weight (be tough to do..but I'm asking)
• Variable VSS (Sport Mode, Standard Mode, maybe off? Doubtful)

I don't think we're going to see a leaning Spyder any day soon. That's a major change with a lot of things that go with it.

 

[Rob Rodriguez]

Right. Cruise, the LED gauges, wheels and paint mean nothing to me. Sure it may look a bit sportier but there is zero performance gain with these things. The shocks are a performance upgrade but I can buy those and install on my RS for less than $400. So to me the $1800 extra charge for an RSS just isn't justifiable.

Things like this would make it justifiable

• 30 more HP
• 100lbs less weight (be tough to do..but I'm asking)
• Variable VSS (Sport Mode, Standard Mode, maybe off? Doubtful)

 

[Bob Denman]

What he is saying is they could tone down the base RS and make it cheaper as an entry-level Spyder. Then they could boost the RS-S as a more true sport bike. I'm all for that. I bought the RS-S because I wanted the fastest, leanest model. I could easily afford an RT but I didn't want a big touring Spyder. If BRP bumps the performance on the 2015 RS-S I'm in, no doubt.

What I'd like to see:

• 30 more HP
• 100lbs less weight (be tough to do..but I'm asking)
• Variable VSS (Sport Mode, Standard Mode, maybe off? Doubtful)

I don't think we're going to see a leaning Spyder any day soon. That's a major change with a lot of things that go with it.

BINGO!! :firstplace: :clap:

 

[bscrive]

I really don't see anything new for the ST next year. The 1330 will probably be put in the ST in 2016 but not next year. I believe like Bob that a cheaper RS is in the offering for next year. It will have a smaller engine and a few less things like maybe no frunk!!!! and a smaller frame?? Only time will tell though.

 

[Bob Denman]

...Don't follow me "over the cliff" :shocked:...
I was just thinking out loud.

I kind of feel that the RS in it's current configuration, falls a bit short of the performance that it's appearance implies...
"Splitting" the model line-up could give them a chance to fullfill that promise, and also bring a true entry-level bike to the market...
...Without losing the model! :thumbup:

I only sell insurance; the only thing that I know about product development; is what I see as an end-product user! pps: