10w40 redline oil

[BajaRon]

Which brings me to the next logical question, in my mind anyway, what is the best oil for our Rykers? Maybe you can give us the top three oils IYO. I’m an Amsoil user in my GW. I guess the 10w 40 metric would work well but, since we don’t need the friction modifiers, can we use a more slippery oil in our Rykers? If you don’t mind, what do you use? :chat: cueman. PS, I know we talked about this before but at that time maybe more info. is available now.

The Ryker, having a CVT and not a wet clutch transmission, is a completely different animal. I don't want to come off as any oil Guru. I simply share what I've learned over the years. Lubricants are a very complicated product. I certainly don't know it all.

I have yet to change oil in my Ryker. But you are correct that logically, we don't need to abide by the restrictions created to service an engine, transmission and wet clutch with a single product as is required in the Spyder (and any other wet clutch motorcycle). Because the Ryker engine stands alone. I don't see any reason why we cannot use a lubricant which is specifically targeted for engine only applications. Obviously, oil manufacturer's have made some significant improvements in these oil types. Less friction, better fuel mileage. What's not to like?

I sell and use Amsoil 10w-40 motorcycle oil. It is a true synthetic oil and works great in all years/models Spyders. I know there is a 5w-40 vs 10w-40 debate. But it is a non-issue. Both viscosities work fine. But the Spyder is actually better off with a 10w-40 than with a 5w-40 for reasons that I've posted before.

Regarding the very different question about the Ryker, I called Amsoil awhile back and asked their 'Expert'. But I am afraid I received a CYA answer, which was to use the wet clutch oil type recommended by BRP/Can-Am. They gave no reason or supporting data for their answer. I really don't think the guy I spoke to put any thought into the question at all.

I have not yet decided which way I am going to go when oil change time comes around. But I am leaning towards a fully synthetic, engine only Amsoil product with all the friction modifiers I can get! These oils are not only better suited (IMHO). They are also less expensive than the motorcycle, wet clutch specific oils, (not that cost has much affect on my choice of oil, just saying) because they don't have to be a Jack of All Trades. And I don't see why I need to get an oil targeted and compromised to suit a system I do not have.

 

[cueman]

Thanks BajaRon, I will be calling in an order for 4 oil filter kits and some other stuff later in the week. cueman

 

[P.W.]

I contacted Redline themselves to see if there 10w40 motorcycle oil was rated for "MA2"

Here is there reply:
"Thank you for contacting Red Line Oil, the 10W40 Motorcycle Oil would satisfy the MA/MA1 wet clutch compatibility not the MA2"

P.W.

 

[BajaRon]

I contacted Redline themselves to see if there 10w40 motorcycle oil was rated for "MA2"

Here is there reply:
"Thank you for contacting Red Line Oil, the 10W40 Motorcycle Oil would satisfy the MA/MA1 wet clutch compatibility not the MA2"

P.W.

Consistent with the information on the bottle. I would have been surprised for them to say anything else.

 

[P.W.]

Thanks a lot for pointing that out to me!!!!

P.W.

 

[BajaRon]

Thanks a lot for pointing that out to me!!!!

P.W.

Sorry, not trying to get on you about it. Who knows. Sometimes I do research on a product and what they tell me does not agree with the published specs. So you never know One place I looked at listed the Redline Oil as having an MB JASO rating when in fact, the current product is JASO MA rated. Big difference!

I assumed that was old information which had not been updated. But there was no date stamp on it so who would ever know?

 

[P.W.]

All is good......when I said " thanks for pointing that out to me' I meant the MA2 classification on the Redline oil......sorry for coming off the wrong way.
I appreciate your input on this thread!!!!

P.W.

 

[BajaRon]

All is good......when I said " thanks for pointing that out to me' I meant the MA2 classification on the Redline oil......sorry for coming off the wrong way.
I appreciate your input on this thread!!!!

P.W.

You didn't really come off the wrong way. But the written word can sometimes mean different things depending on the reader. I just wanted to be sure I did not say something that came off wrong.

Have a Great Riding Season!

 

[P.W.]

We just bought an orange 19 RTL on Sat!
BUT in need to get my motorcycle licenses before I can ride.....LOL

 

[Sarge]

Amsoil ... +1 !