There should be an adjuster on the lever to increase the travel when you squeeze. It may require quite a longer pull on the lever to work.
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New ISCI hand brake on GS Spyder not working properly. Any ideas?
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There should be an adjuster on the lever to increase the travel when you squeeze. It may require quite a longer pull on the lever to work.
On the newer models, yes. On my 08 GS version, no! But I might look into seeing if ISCI can supply one that will fit when I get in touch.
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Dutchy
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Flea
Food for thought - you might be able to get another lever with a similar type of adjustment that you could fit to replace the one you have. Another option, if your lever has a fixed setting, is it possible to get it off & set it up with something similar to a later version?
As they say, there are no problems, only solutions :2thumbs: for everything!
Food for thought - you might be able to get another lever with a similar type of adjustment that you could fit to replace the one you have. Another option, if your lever has a fixed setting, is it possible to get it off & set it up with something similar to a later version?
As they say, there are no problems, only solutions :2thumbs: for everything!
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But the prob is that it's fixing a problem that shouldn't exist, especially after paying out such a large sum of money.
First, I have to find out why - talking with a mate who builds race car motors for a living, he suggests the prob might be in the hole placement on the Can Am; the holes would only have to be out by a mm to have a large effect on the lever travel up on the bars. Also, he said he would be able to make an adjuster for the slave cylinder if need be (he has lathes/milling machines etc. etc.)
I have found someone else on the forum who used spacers to solve a similar problem, which is what my mechanic suggested as a last resort. Interestingly, the early conversion models didn't have an adjuster on the lever, but the later models do; so was this ISCI's solution to a problem that has existed right along?
Might the problem be with the kit manufacturer having the odd Monday morning-itus and their holes are sometimes put slightly off??
THE HUNT FOR A SOLUTION CONTINUES! And still no reply from ISCI.
First, I have to find out why - talking with a mate who builds race car motors for a living, he suggests the prob might be in the hole placement on the Can Am; the holes would only have to be out by a mm to have a large effect on the lever travel up on the bars. Also, he said he would be able to make an adjuster for the slave cylinder if need be (he has lathes/milling machines etc. etc.)
I have found someone else on the forum who used spacers to solve a similar problem, which is what my mechanic suggested as a last resort. Interestingly, the early conversion models didn't have an adjuster on the lever, but the later models do; so was this ISCI's solution to a problem that has existed right along?
Might the problem be with the kit manufacturer having the odd Monday morning-itus and their holes are sometimes put slightly off??
THE HUNT FOR A SOLUTION CONTINUES! And still no reply from ISCI.
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Spyder_Cowgirl
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As Peter suggested, it might be worth searching a bit for threads with similar difficulty ... especially for member Kawakii (I think). She is a paraplegic and has had the ISCI unit on all of her Spyders (two GS's and now an F3). In the early kits (like for the GS), SOME units had some "flex" in the bracketing that could cause just the symptom you describe. There was a Spyderlovers member that created a bracket to remove this "flex" and, as I recall, Kawakii jumped at the chance to try it out. So, the suggestion of spacers may not be far off ... but more it would be a strategically manufactured and placed bracket. Note that this is from years ago ... so it may no longer be an issue; but it's certainly worth looking into.
Note that I am familiar with the ISCI unit as I installed one on my first Spyder, as 2012 RT Ltd. - even with my long fingers, I could not stop as efficiently as with the foot brake (purely because of the difference in strength between one's hand versus leg).
In my experience, ISCI has great customer service ... give them time to respond (they may be looking at providing a complete answer, instead of a Band-Aid).
All the best .... Ann
Note that I am familiar with the ISCI unit as I installed one on my first Spyder, as 2012 RT Ltd. - even with my long fingers, I could not stop as efficiently as with the foot brake (purely because of the difference in strength between one's hand versus leg).
In my experience, ISCI has great customer service ... give them time to respond (they may be looking at providing a complete answer, instead of a Band-Aid).
All the best .... Ann
Thanks Ann, tried looking up kawakii, but wow, she's got a lot of posts, so couldn't find the ones on the brake but spent hrs going over the rest of the forum on hand brakes. I found 1 member who had used spacers, but that was all. I don't think members realise how bad my problem is, I have only about 1/2 inch to the bars before I get resistance and slight braking and it's only enough to slow me at a very low speed. If I use only the lever I would be in a wreck or dead the first day using it. BUT the foot brake works well... Due to a bad leg and foot, I have to lift my foot onto the brake, so in some ways it's still useable; pull the lever and by the time my foot gets onto the pedal, it's already depressed a fair bit, so saving me time. BUT that's not the point! It's supposed to do away with the foot pedal. I can try spacers or put an adjuster on it, but at $2500 landed in Oz, it SHOULD work properly! I have sent another polite msg to ISCI, as there's still no reply or msg saying they've received anything.
Stephenaspr
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After having 2 Spyders with the ISCI hand brake systems installed, I would say that the problem is the installer did not adjust the pushrod correctly. This pushrod is part of the ISCI system and sits directly behind the standard master cylinder located near your right foot. ISCI supplies the clearance needed on this pushrod.
OK folks, I have got it sorted out. It was a matter of adjusting the foot brake pedal restricting its travel; it was going down far enough to activate the 2nd switch, causing the brake failure warning to come on. Also, doing that sorted out the handle bar brake conversion as well. Thanks.
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