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Replacing the rear tire on your Spyder - Video

Apology

Sorry, the dealer wasn't steering me - bad pun - in the direction of the Kuhmo, I have to purchase the tire from somewhere else and bring it over to the dealer to have it installed. Again they thought it would be OK to install a different brand as long as it was the same size. They are a new dealer so I understand if they would like to do everything 'by the book'. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, cause I do need a new tire so we in the Midwest can start riding soon.
 
JC, I think this tire "IS" the "keeper" and the best car tire replacement right now.

While I wanted the Michelin Hydroedge because I love Michelin tires, they do not make that anymore. The replacement Defender IS NOT a good tire for the Spyder due to it's offset tread.

Anyway, I rode all week to work and hit speeds of up to 80 MPH on Ca. freeways without ANY balancing! FREAKIN WONDERFUL!

So you and I are now some of the few that are using this tire. Let's keep folks up to date on how it goes.... :2thumbs:

By the way, I AM NOT the person that came up with this alternative tire! It was recommended to me by Spyder Lover User: spyderyderjim
In this post here:

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?74404-Tire-hell-sorry

So I cannot take ANY credit for this tire choice...

spyderyderjim
THANK you for this wonderful recommendation! Loving it buddy! I hope you see this post as I thank you.... :cheers:

Bob

I just completed an 1800 mile round trip Bike week ride and S-Drive performed great. I didn't experience hardly any rain so I can't comment on the performance in the rain but on dry pavement it was great. If I can get at least 20K of mileage out this tire I will be very happy.
 
I just completed an 1800 mile round trip Bike week ride and S-Drive performed great. I didn't experience hardly any rain so I can't comment on the performance in the rain but on dry pavement it was great. If I can get at least 20K of mileage out this tire I will be very happy.

Good to hear! Thanks for sharing your experiences.

Now that I have some long rides under my belt with this tire.... NO WAY would I use anything else including Khumo.

I personally believe this is the best tire for an RT available right now. It's a high RPM high rated tire and you cannot beat that!

While I don't have any experience with other tires, the more of us that share their experiences with this Yokohama tire, the better educated others are for choices later.
And that's what sharing is all about! :ohyea:

Bob
 
OK folks, I finally put on my Yokohama "S" Drive tire.
Shot a video on how to do it or at least how I did it.

Hope it helps someone.

Bob


Bob just changed another tire. the guy at the tire place said, just remove the sprocket, no need to remove brake disc and hub, his unit grips the wheel from just the left side to dismount and mount the new tire
 
Tire replacement

Awesome and full of little tips..:bowdown::bowdown:..Still going to have my dealer do it!!....lol

Will your dealer put on a Yokohama?? Mine wont..Must be a quote un-qoute "motorcycle" tire or they could face a lawsuit..So im stuck right now deciding weather to just put on Kenda's or find a way to get a Yokohama or Kumho on my bike..nojoke:dontknow::dontknow:
 
Will your dealer put on a Yokohama?? Mine wont..Must be a quote un-qoute "motorcycle" tire or they could face a lawsuit..So im stuck right now deciding weather to just put on Kenda's or find a way to get a Yokohama or Kumho on my bike..nojoke:dontknow::dontknow:

If you watch the video I say I took the tire off and went to the car tire place. I went to Allen Tire. There were no questions asked. I told them it was for a custom trike but I really did not need to say anything.

Also as people are saying above, you "may" not need to remove the hub as some tire places have equipment that doesn't require removal of the hub.

BUT, with that said I am still glad I did remove it as I wanted to check all the bearings and seals. You cannot do that without removing the hub.

Bob
 
Now that you been running that tire awhile. Please update your thoughts on how it's wearing and riding!
 
Now that you been running that tire awhile. Please update your thoughts on how it's wearing and riding!

I have 7K on my Yoko and loving the tire. As Paul said it's great for the weather I have out here.
Looking at the tread wear it looks like I will get about 14K out of it maybe more.
I got 12K out of my 2011 Kenda stock tire.
So for me this is a winner tire. High quality performance tire with excellent ratings. Love how it rides, it's grip on the road, etc.

If you want a tire that will go more miles than say 14K or so, your going to get a harder tire and it is not going to grip as well. Unfortunately this is the trade off.

When this tire is gone I will probably get the Yoko again.

Bob
 
Will your dealer put on a Yokohama?? Mine wont..Must be a quote un-qoute "motorcycle" tire or they could face a lawsuit..So im stuck right now deciding weather to just put on Kenda's or find a way to get a Yokohama or Kumho on my bike..nojoke:dontknow::dontknow:

Any tire shop can do it. I live in Rural Utah no major tire companies around me.I took my wheel to the local guys asked can you put this tire on this rim,He said"I have four different tire machines I can mount anything on anything,and he did 10 min job including a dyna bead balance $25 plus $3.00 tire disposal fee, included balance. 5K miles so far no wear showing, no problems.
 
I had ordered the Kuhmo early this morning and after seeing this thread wished I'd got a Yokohama. I called discount tire and they were going to change it to the Yoko and realized it was for a spyder and they canceled the order. I just went to Amazon and ordered the Yoko and spent less $$. Discount makes you think you are getting it for less but they add a 10.00+ charge for a certificate for refund or replacement. So now Im getting the Yoko for only 6 dollars more than the Kuhmo. :thumbup:
The moral of the story is dont ever say you are putting a car tire on a Spyder.
 
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I had ordered the Kuhmo early this morning and after seeing this thread wished I'd got a Yokohama. I called discount tire and they were going to change it to the Yoko and realized it was for a spyder and they canceled the order. I just went to Amazon and ordered the Yoko and spent less $$. Discount makes you think you are getting it for less but they add a 10.00+ charge for a certificate for refund or replacement. So now Im getting the Yoko for only 6 dollars more than the Kuhmo. :thumbup:
The moral of the story is dont ever say you are putting a car tire on a Spyder.

OR BS THEM TELL THEM IT FOR A CAR BUT I THINK YOU GOT THE BEST TIRE ,KUMHOS HYDROPLANE A HAD 2
 
Thanks, I also found a dealer that will put it on. BTW, Louis Powersports just lost any of my business,:mad:
 
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I purchased my General Altimax RT43 on Amazon, no questions asked. Received the tire on Friday and mounting it tomorrow.

Pam
 
I had ordered the Kuhmo early this morning and after seeing this thread wished I'd got a Yokohama. I called discount tire and they were going to change it to the Yoko and realized it was for a spyder and they canceled the order. I just went to Amazon and ordered the Yoko and spent less $$. Discount makes you think you are getting it for less but they add a 10.00+ charge for a certificate for refund or replacement. So now Im getting the Yoko for only 6 dollars more than the Kuhmo. :thumbup:
The moral of the story is dont ever say you are putting a car tire on a Spyder.

You dodged a bullet there. I know it's hard to not get caught up in the chant from Kuhmo cult. I had a Kuhmo and trashed it long before it was worn out. The only thing it seemed to stick to was black fresh asphalt. Grey pavement I had to little careful with the throttle. Wet pavement I had to treat like driving on ice. Hydroplaned in even a tiny amount of standing water. The Yokohama S drive is better. Still open to finding something better yet.
 
A lot of that ^^ sort of problem can be traced back to running the wrong tire pressures for the load the tires are carrying & the way they are being used, as well as your expectations. ANY tire run at pressures that are too high for the load it's carrying/the way it's being used will hydro-plane in some conditions &/or have poor traction on any/all surfaces, and many drivers/riders just don't realise how critical the difference of as little as just 1psi in their tires might be to the traction & ride/handling characteristics of said tire. So unless you've seriously tried adjusting your tire pressures to suit your load/riding style & provide the optimal balance of traction & ride/handling from that tire, blaming the tire for a lack of traction or otherwise is not a realistic response.... :shocked:

Still, the compound (or compounds - some tire manufacturers use two or more compounds across the tread face of the tire) that are used in the tread of the tire can have a big impact on how well a particular tire grips & behaves, altho if you bother, you as the operator can manage that behaviour to a large degree by adjusting your tire pressure to produce various desireable results or to reduce the un-desireable results. Kumho's (in general, altho there are specific exceptions in their line-up) tend to use more of a 'longer lasting' compound than some other brands, (including Yokohama, which in general are more of a softer compound using performance brand) which means that to provide the same degree of traction & to avoid hydro-planing, it is very likely you'll need to run lower pressures in a Kumho so that the tire compound will heat up more & become 'stickier' than you would in the same sized/tread type Yokohama. But you can achieve very much the same traction by adjusting your pressures suitably, altho it will likely be at some cost in terms of the potential tire life (probably countered by the longer life harder compound tho) - broadly speaking, the stickier you make your tires the quicker they will wear, altho lighter construction &/or softer compound tires will generally flex more & get hot quicker & thereby wear quicker than heavier construction/harder compound tires....

With a little effort, you can manage your tire pressures to get the best balance of performance, ride, handling, & traction from whatever tires you run if you want to, & maybe even learn how to pick a brand/construction of tire that best suits what you want from your tires; all it takes is learning how to vary your tire pressures to do so & then making the effort. OR you can just treat your tires as black round things that keep the metal bits off the road & just set & forget your tire pressures, blaming the tire itself for your lack of effort & thereby significantly effecting things like potential tire life, traction, ride, handling, etc & possibly even your riding enjoyment. Many people who do the latter even change the brands/tread patterns of their tires often until they stumble (generally by pure fluke) across one that works sorta OK for them despite their lack of involvement/input into such a critical part of their ride enjoyment & safety....

Your choice :rolleyes:
 
A lot of that ^^ sort of problem can be traced back to running the wrong tire pressures for the load the tires are carrying & the way they are being used, as well as your expectations. ANY tire run at pressures that are too high for the load it's carrying/the way it's being used will hydro-plane in some conditions &/or have poor traction on any/all surfaces, and many drivers/riders just don't realise how critical the difference of as little as just 1psi in their tires might be to the traction & ride/handling characteristics of said tire. So unless you've seriously tried adjusting your tire pressures to suit your load/riding style & provide the optimal balance of traction & ride/handling from that tire, blaming the tire for a lack of traction or otherwise is not a realistic response.... :shocked:

Still, the compound (or compounds - some tire manufacturers use two or more compounds across the tread face of the tire) that are used in the tread of the tire can have a big impact on how well a particular tire grips & behaves, altho if you bother, you as the operator can manage that behaviour to a large degree by adjusting your tire pressure to produce various desireable results or to reduce the un-desireable results. Kumho's (in general, altho there are specific exceptions in their line-up) tend to use more of a 'longer lasting' compound than some other brands, (including Yokohama, which in general are more of a softer compound using performance brand) which means that to provide the same degree of traction & to avoid hydro-planing, it is very likely you'll need to run lower pressures in a Kumho so that the tire compound will heat up more & become 'stickier' than you would in the same sized/tread type Yokohama. But you can achieve very much the same traction by adjusting your pressures suitably, altho it will likely be at some cost in terms of the potential tire life (probably countered by the longer life harder compound tho) - broadly speaking, the stickier you make your tires the quicker they will wear, altho lighter construction &/or softer compound tires will generally flex more & get hot quicker & thereby wear quicker than heavier construction/harder compound tires....

With a little effort, you can manage your tire pressures to get the best balance of performance, ride, handling, & traction from whatever tires you run if you want to, & maybe even learn how to pick a brand/construction of tire that best suits what you want from your tires; all it takes is learning how to vary your tire pressures to do so & then making the effort. OR you can just treat your tires as black round things that keep the metal bits off the road & just set & forget your tire pressures, blaming the tire itself for your lack of effort & thereby significantly effecting things like potential tire life, traction, ride, handling, etc & possibly even your riding enjoyment. Many people who do the latter even change the brands/tread patterns of their tires often until they stumble (generally by pure fluke) across one that works sorta OK for them despite their lack of involvement/input into such a critical part of their ride enjoyment & safety....

Your choice :rolleyes:

I do understand the relationship between tire pressure and traction. I gave up on the kuhmo at 20 psi. At that pressure I disliked the feel in the corners. Which was surprise to me because of the stiffer construction. When the only requirement is to last longer and all the bad characteristics are ignored, kumho is a great tire. ;)
 
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