Help....turn signals blinking fast after adding additional LED's - 2014 RT Limited

[Magdave]

I understand what your saying but as I said too much load also causes it.
Adding a resistor lowers the brightness of the LEDs and if you have to add too much resistance they are too dim.

A little LED knowledge.

Single LEDs have a voltage rating. Some as low as 1 volt and some as high as around 3.5V or more. It varies based on internal resistance.
So if you hook a single LED to 12V it's going to pop. Thus you add a resistor and calculate it correctly so the voltage across the LED is correct.

Now LED strips work a little differently. Lets say each LED is rated at 2.5V. If you hook 5 of these in series the voltage across each then becomes correct. Ohms law V = IR. Now you can hook this strip directly to 12V and not need a resistor as the voltage across each LED is about correct.

So how do you get say 20 LEDs in a strip to work?
Well obviously if you hook 20 in series the voltage across each will be so low they may not even light!
So what you do is hook 4 strips of 5 LEDs in parallel. Now each set of 5 LEDs is correct and all LEDs light the same.

BUT WAIT? Now the current (I) goes up! This can also trigger the flasher unit to fast flash. If current is too high it fast flashes. If it is to low it fast flashes (like a bulb is burned out). Adding a resistor "may not" always fix too high a current draw without dimming the LEDs beyond what is useful. Again this is why some make a reverse load device to solve this (it's basically another flasher in the circuit powered by another 12V line).

I mean think about it. You can't continue to keep adding as many lights as you want as power is needed to drive them. Go too much and the flasher freaks out. Yes in general a resistor can help but sometimes depending on what your doing, you cant get there with just a voltage drop across a resistor.

Bob

In your example you would require a load resistor for multiple sets. Simplest way to solve that issue is with a isolation relay to a fuse block that drives your additions.. In parallel ckts the resistance total actually drops as 1/R1+ 1/R2+1/R3 and take the reciprocal of that total to determine the RT. For example 2, 3 ohm resistors in parallel will give you a 1.5 ohm RT. In series that would be 6 ohms.

 

[Bob Denman]

330 ohm; 1/2 wat... :2thumbs:
Thanks for this info! :clap:
I'm pretty much set on getting "authorization" for this modification too!

 

[rick_w]

330 ohm; 1/2 wat... :2thumbs:
Thanks for this info! :clap:
I'm pretty much set on getting "authorization" for this modification too!

We have sold a lot of the TricLed Mirror LED's. Not one problem with the 2010 to 2012's.
The 2013 and 2014 will flash somewhat faster, BRP did change something starting in 2013.
The stock Turn Signals are LED's and the Flasher circuit is looking a low current draw not high like on a standard motorcycle.
The statement above is correct, you will need a current limiting resistor in line with the new Mirror LED's, very easy to do, if you want to slow it down.
The 330 ohm half watt resistors will work for most. If you have other LED's going on also up front with a Full LED Illumination Modules with Blinker (pr), you may have to use the 470 ohm resistors instead. We used the 470 in our 2013 RT. They are still very bright using either the 330 or 470 Ohm resistors. Just solder them in.
Rick

 

[Magdave]

We have sold a lot of the TricLed Mirror LED's. Not one problem with the 2010 to 2012's.
The 2013 and 2014 will flash somewhat faster, BRP did change something starting in 2013.
The stock Turn Signals are LED's and the Flasher circuit is looking a low current draw not high like on a standard motorcycle.
The statement above is correct, you will need a current limiting resistor in line with the new Mirror LED's, very easy to do, if you want to slow it down.
The 330 ohm half watt resistors will work for most. If you have other LED's going on also up front with a Full LED Illumination Modules with Blinker (pr), you may have to use the 470 ohm resistors. We used the 470 in our 2013 RT. They are still very bright using either the 330 or 470 Ohm resistors. Just solder them in.
Rick

Thanks for confirming my advice. :thumbup:

 

[spyder-dude]

My friend has a 2010 and just put on the LED turn signals and they are having the same issue. Do you have an example of what ohm resister that he would need? Like a link from one online and then I can look locally for him?

Thanks,

Shawn

 

[Magdave]

My friend has a 2010 and just put on the LED turn signals and they are having the same issue. Do you have an example of what ohm resister that he would need? Like a link from one online and then I can look locally for him?

Thanks,

Shawn

330 ohm 1/2W available any where.

 

[zbunker]

Fast Blink Turn Signals

Thanks for your input on this. It's strange as it's exactly the same LED's I used on my 2012 RT and they worked for a year before I traded up -- no problems at all. I did try the resistor route as well, but to no success. I checked polarity and even another set of LED's from another supplier -- same situation - fast blink. I still have them mounted on the mirrors with hopes I can find a solution....otherwise they come off and then back to basics.....I really liked the LED's on the mirrors facing me to help me know if I left them on -- the dash lights are dim during the day to see that. Thanks for taking time to help.....

I had that same situation with my 2013 RT after I installed LED'S for turn signals in my mirrors. In the beginning it kinda made me nuts. but after a while (nothing broke or went on fire) so I figured what the heck, the fast flash might be better to catch the other drivers attention.
Ron

 

[Jim&Teresa]

Link

My friend has a 2010 and just put on the LED turn signals and they are having the same issue. Do you have an example of what ohm resister that he would need? Like a link from one online and then I can look locally for him?

Thanks,

Shawn

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062319

Here's what I used on my 2014 RT Limited.....hope this works for you and/or your friend. If it does not, please consult a "sparky" who has more knowledge of this subject than I do (I am a retired Mechanical Engineer, should have learned more about electronics -- would have come in handy).....

Good luck!

 

[sfinigan94]

Is there any worries of the resistor getting to hot and melting the plastic in the mirror assembly.

 

[bikerjays]

turn signal flashes faster after adding LED strips

The problem is the flash unit will flash faster if you have a burned out bulb and or if you draw too much current from the flasher. I added a 12 inch strip of side light LEDs around each mirror housing and the LEDs and mirror bulbs flashed at about twice the rate as normal. I cut back the number of LEDs to halve the strip and the flashing is now normal. Also all those LEDs all around the mirror was actually blinding at night so cutting back to half the number worked out better for night vision and still provided more visible notification.

Jay Sherman
2013 RTS

 

[machead]

To the OP, try this....

1 - Turn key on
2 - Press & hold hazard button for 30 sec
3 - Cluster will flash one time at the end of 30 sec
4 - Reset is complete


I got this information from another board member here. My 2014 RTLTD with nothing added (at the time) started fast flashing the right turn signal. I did the above steps and it cleared.

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree: That's a new feature on the 2014s... :thumbup:

 

[cuznjohn]

To the OP, try this....

1 - Turn key on
2 - Press & hold hazard button for 30 sec
3 - Cluster will flash one time at the end of 30 sec
4 - Reset is complete


I got this information from another board member here. My 2014 RTLTD with nothing added (at the time) started fast flashing the right turn signal. I did the above steps and it cleared.

i was looking for this for him, it worked on mine when i did it

 

[dadof4]

Glad you got it working. For fast flashing my suggestion would have been to watch it slower.

 

[cyberbern]

Fast left flasher on 2013 RT

I had Tricled fender LEDs & flash module installed on my 2013 RT Limited & yes, my left flasher is hyper. I admit to not knowing anything about electricity so please humor me.8)

What effect would replacing the stock flasher bulbs with LEDs have? Don't LEDs draw less current? Would that fix the problem or create other problems?

By the way, Tricled has been very responsive and are even sending me a new flasher module just in case that is the problem.

Cyberbern

 

[Highwayman2013]

Lamont did a video on how to reset the hyper flash problem

 

[Kawboy]

My brothers 2014 RT-S did the same thing when we installed a BRP trailer hitch and harness. The dealer updated the computer and they blinked correctly after that.

 

[finless]

Lamont did a video on how to reset the hyper flash problem

Doesn't work on 2013's. That feature is a 2014 and up thing.

Bob

 

[finless]

Read this post:

http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/...o-my-Spyder-RT&p=982967&viewfull=1#post982967

Bob