GIVI Bags Mounting

[bjt]

Not sure about the BRP rack but my I7 rack can be detached in minutes also. Two bolts under the seat, muffler hanger bolt and a corresponding one on the other side, and one screw at the tip of the underseat pan. Add another 5 - 10 minutes for popping the turn signals off the rack and putting them back on the Spyder's side panel and I figure 15 - 20 minutes tops to go from I7 rack to stock. You could probably cut that time in half if you did if fairly often.

 

[Dudley]

So if I'm understanding this correctly, there are 3 options for mounting Givi bags:

1. InD 7 rack system.
2. Givi Rack system.
3. Soon to be release BRP rack system.

Is this correct?

Anyone actually seen the BRP rack? I read the BRP rack can be detached in a matter of minutes - which would be nice.

I have not seen the BRP/GIVI mount, but if it's the GIVI mount, then it's probably going to be turn signals on the fender. I have the Industries 7 setup and it's VERY well put together! We are very satisfied with it. If you have any questions, call Magic, he sells them.

 

[Firefly]

I have not seen the BRP/GIVI mount, but if it's the GIVI mount, then it's probably going to be turn signals on the finder. I have the Industries 7 setup and it's VERY well put together! We are very satisfied with it. If you have any questions, call Magic, he sells them.

I was thinking about this and it would make sense that the BRP rack would actually be the same as the Givi rack. I've seen the IND7 and was impressed.

 

[Firefly]

Does this look like they moved the turn signals?

http://spyder.brp.com/en-US/Share/C...?EntryID=a6eb9c53-a349-44a4-9896-d715e67b05b5

I can't tell from the angle. They also mention a quick-release for the brackets themselves.

 

[Firefly]

Okay, it seems the Givi mount that someone posted about actually mounts the turn signals onto the back fender. Found a photo of it at premiercycleaccessories.com.

Looks terrible.

It now appears the BRP rack setup is different than the Givi because the turn signals don't get relocated.

 

[igor]

Okay, it seems the Givi mount that someone posted about actually mounts the turn signals onto the back fender. Found a photo of it at premiercycleaccessories.com.

Looks terrible.

It now appears the BRP rack setup is different than the Givi because the turn signals don't get relocated.

i did it and it is OK for me :dontknow:

 

[Dudley]

Does this look like they moved the turn signals?

http://spyder.brp.com/en-US/Share/C...?EntryID=a6eb9c53-a349-44a4-9896-d715e67b05b5

I can't tell from the angle. They also mention a quick-release for the brackets themselves.

Set up looks like mine. Can't understand how they can have a "quick detachment" for the rack itself. A rack should be tightly bolted for stability. Seems like anything that could detach easily would not hold up. The bags are very easy to remove "quick detachment". The latches that hold them firm seem bullet-proof. Probably the best package for the bucks.

 

[Firefly]

Set up looks like mine. Can't understand how they can have a "quick detachment" for the rack itself. A rack should be tightly bolted for stability. Seems like anything that could detach easily would not hold up. The bags are very easy to remove "quick detachment". The latches that hold them firm seem bullet-proof. Probably the best package for the bucks.

Looks sharp!

 

[The Breeze]

Looks like you have the V35 Givi's.
Do they, as advertised, hold a full face helmet?

 

[BRPjunkie]

Looks like you have the V35 Givi's.
Do they, as advertised, hold a full face helmet?

Givi V35 will hold a size M HJC helmet with ease. A L HJC requires a precise alignmemt to fit. An XL will not fit. I can only vouch for HJC helmets as that is all I have and others may or may not fit.

 

[The Breeze]

Givi V35 will hold a size M HJC helmet with ease. A L HJC requires a precise alignmemt to fit. An XL will not fit. I can only vouch for HJC helmets as that is all I have and others may or may not fit.

Thanks for the response.

As luck would have it, I wear a medium HJC SyMax II.
My concern is - modular helmets tend to be larger than standard full face helmets.

 

[NancysToy]

Set up looks like mine. Can't understand how they can have a "quick detachment" for the rack itself. A rack should be tightly bolted for stability. Seems like anything that could detach easily would not hold up. The bags are very easy to remove "quick detachment". The latches that hold them firm seem bullet-proof. Probably the best package for the bucks.

I'm wondering if they didn't engineer or license something like the SW-Motech Quick-Lock Contour Carriers. These are available for several bikes. Basically they use a locking fastener (bolt/knob) and all that is left on the bike when the racks aren't mounted is the permanently installed mounting point. Slick system, solid, and very clean. I'm looking forward to learning more about the BRP mounts.
-Scotty

 

[bjt]

Reading the BRP descripton of their rack, I don't necessarily think that they are saying the rack is quick release. I've read it a couple of times and I don't see where they are clearly saying that the rack itself removes with some type of quarter turn fasteners. The description of the quick release is ambiguous. The bags are quick release, just as the bags quickly release from the Industries 7 rack and the GIVI rack.

The turn signals may stay on the Spyder in the original location with the BRP rack but its really hard telling from their picture. It appears the bags may sit lower on the Spyder than with my I7 rack and, if so, the turn signal might be able to stay in the stock location. Otherwise, they've relocated them just a bit farther back and onto the rack itself, just like the I7 rack.

 

[Firefly]

Reading the BRP descripton of their rack, I don't necessarily think that they are saying the rack is quick release. I've read it a couple of times and I don't see where they are clearly saying that the rack itself removes with some type of quarter turn fasteners. The description of the quick release is ambiguous. The bags are quick release, just as the bags quickly release from the Industries 7 rack and the GIVI rack.

The turn signals may stay on the Spyder in the original location with the BRP rack but its really hard telling from their picture. It appears the bags may sit lower on the Spyder than with my I7 rack and, if so, the turn signal might be able to stay in the stock location. Otherwise, they've relocated them just a bit farther back and onto the rack itself, just like the I7 rack.

Yeah, I thought that too about whether the racks themselves are 'quick release'. the wording is strange and could mean either or both. Do the Givi bags use a 'quarter-turn' system for removal?

In the first sentence they mention the 'quarter-turn' release, but then later they say the bags open or remove with a key/push button.

So I just don't know what they mean.

The R-35 Rigid Saddlebag Kit was developed in conjunction with Givi. They provide carry-away convenience for additional luggage storage. It has a clean finish courtesy of fully integrated flush mount racking with quick release system. The quick release quarter-turn system provides security and instant removal in minutes when saddlebags are not required. The side case opens/closes and attaches/detaches with one key plus push button for ease of use. Volume capacity is 35 liters (e.g. fits 2 full-face helmets). Weight capacity is 22 lb (10 kg) each side. Dimensions (WxDxH) 21" x 12" x 15 1/2" (53 cm x 30 cm x 39 cm). The kit is sold in pairs.

 

[BRPjunkie]

I will be very impressed if GIVI/BRP has a quick detach bracket. The Givi brackets currently bolt on in three places, front seat bolt, rear seat bolt and passenger footpeg. Solid as a rock. If all three of these can be converted to a quick release fastener and still be a solid mount, then they have really done their design work. If the BRP design leaves the turn signals where they are by lowering the racks, then the passenger footpegs will be compromised and the muffler will need to be lowered. With each design, there is compromise. I thought that I would not like the racks hanging on there when I didn't need the cases, but I like them so well that they are never off the bike. Like all things Spyder, nice to have choices in design/price (I7, Givi, BRP).

 

[bjt]

Yeah, I thought that too about whether the racks themselves are 'quick release'. the wording is strange and could mean either or both. Do the Givi bags use a 'quarter-turn' system for removal?

In the first sentence they mention the 'quarter-turn' release, but then later they say the bags open or remove with a key/push button.

So I just don't know what they mean.

The R-35 Rigid Saddlebag Kit was developed in conjunction with Givi. They provide carry-away convenience for additional luggage storage. It has a clean finish courtesy of fully integrated flush mount racking with quick release system. The quick release quarter-turn system provides security and instant removal in minutes when saddlebags are not required. The side case opens/closes and attaches/detaches with one key plus push button for ease of use. Volume capacity is 35 liters (e.g. fits 2 full-face helmets). Weight capacity is 22 lb (10 kg) each side. Dimensions (WxDxH) 21" x 12" x 15 1/2" (53 cm x 30 cm x 39 cm). The kit is sold in pairs.

Yep, slightly confusing. After struggling with BRP's website layout over the past year, I'm not surprised that there is confusion on it still. The GIVI bags remove from the rack with a 1/4 turn of the key and a push of the bag release button. The bags open with a 1/4 turn of the key and a push of the bag open button. :sour:

One thing that I think I've gotten straight is that the turn signals with the BRP GIVI rack do relocate the turn signal from the stock position to a more rearward position on the rack itself. Looking at a picture that someone posted of a closeup of the passenger grab bars / turn signal area, the BRP GIVI rack will definitely move the signals back.

 

[Firefly]

Yep, slightly confusing. After struggling with BRP's website layout over the past year, I'm not surprised that there is confusion on it still. The GIVI bags remove from the rack with a 1/4 turn of the key and a push of the bag release button. The bags open with a 1/4 turn of the key and a push of the bag open button. :sour:

One thing that I think I've gotten straight is that the turn signals with the BRP GIVI rack do relocate the turn signal from the stock position to a more rearward position on the rack itself. Looking at a picture that someone posted of a closeup of the passenger grab bars / turn signal area, the BRP GIVI rack will definitely move the signals back.

Yeah - the BRP websites really bite. Let's just hope they use a different set of geeks to program the computers inside the Spyder:yikes:

 

[Dudley]

Looks like you have the V35 Givi's.
Do they, as advertised, hold a full face helmet?

We tried to fit either of our helmets full face M and full regular L, but couldn't fit them at the time, but was trying to do it in a rush. I will try tomorrow taking my time and see. If someone else can do it, I should be able to.

 

[Dudley]

Thanks for the response.

As luck would have it, I wear a medium HJC SyMax II.
My concern is - modular helmets tend to be larger than standard full face helmets.

Your best bet is the trunk. Use the bags for more flexible items...jackets, etc.

 

[Dudley]

The R-35 Rigid Saddlebag Kit was developed in conjunction with Givi. They provide carry-away convenience for additional luggage storage. It has a clean finish courtesy of fully integrated flush mount racking with quick release system. The quick release quarter-turn system provides security and instant removal in minutes when saddlebags are not required. The side case opens/closes and attaches/detaches with one key plus push button for ease of use. Volume capacity is 35 liters (e.g. fits 2 full-face helmets). Weight capacity is 22 lb (10 kg) each side. Dimensions (WxDxH) 21" x 12" x 15 1/2" (53 cm x 30 cm x 39 cm). The kit is sold in pairs.


My understanding reads that it's a quick release flush mount racking. I have never taken the bags off except to apply lock tite on new bolts I had to buy for the bushings that the bags rest on. The ones they sent were about 1/4 inch too short for the lock nut to completely go on the threads and one nut fell off. Thankfully only one, had both fallen off the same bag, that bag would have been history down the freeway. But when the bags are off, the rack is very well balanced with the bike's appearance. For sure, the bags mount very solid and do not rattle. I don't understand how carry-away convenience can give you additional luggage storage. The bag doesn't get any larger when you carry it away. Advertising goobly gook. I figure they mean that the bag is a means of having more luggage storage and it's not part of the Spyder, but that's not what it appears to be as written.