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2013 RT Fire, 26 July 2014

The insurance company would hire the outside fire investigator...
BRP would task it's own engineers with trying to piece together the story of what happened.
After all; they designed and built the bike. In theory; they should have the best idea of what to look for. :thumbup:
 
You must remember that anything could catch fire at any time, it's the issues leading up to the fire that's in question. I purchased a new GM truck in 1989 and they recalled the transmission dipstick for causing fires? Turns out the trans could "burp up" fluid out of the dipstick on the hot exhaust manifold so they installed a "locking" dipstick. Some of the 13's have been giving huge clues.......
 
HuckFin said:
How did Corvairs get drug into this? I have owned Corvairs for 45+ years and never heard of any designed in flaws that caused them to catch on fire. I'm sure some have caught on fire because of poor maintenance, but not from some designed in flaw.
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The problem with the Chevy Corvair was that so many mechanics did not know how to work on it. I worked for a guy who was a retired GM engineer who could make them sing. He had so much business, just with Corvairs, that his garage was sometimes mistaken for a used car lot, and people would come in to buy a car!

I suspect some of our issues may very well have to do with the quality of the mechanic that some dealerships employ. Some of you know that the dealership where I bought my RT left parts off the rear brake when they performed the recall work. I am happy to report that, to date, the ECM update seems to have resolved the extreme heat that was giving me 1st degree burns on my thighs when I rode for more than an hour. The glove box area no longer gets extremely hot, nor do I have the terrible heat shooting out from the seat lock mechanism, when the seat is open. I've put over 3,000 miles on my Spyder since the ECM update (bulletin 2013-9 I think?) and am very happy with how it runs. Will it someday turn into a pile of slag on the side of the road? Who knows? But I plan on riding as often as I can, and will cross that bridge if I ever come to it.
 
Vidman said:
I certainly understand why BRP would want the burned bike. They would not be the ones to hire engineers and investigators. If insurance companies see a pattern large enough to expend the money for an investigation then things would possibly moPve along. I never stated, nor believe, that BRP would pay for the investigation. I hope all afflicted owners are dealt with properly.
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Why wouldn't BRP hire investigators or engineers? They have the most to lose if they can not determine the cause of the fire.

jaherbst said:
Ann Who replaced your Spyder, BRP or your insurance company???

Jack
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I replaced my Spyder.

jpbuch9309 said:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1NHO0K3bY8
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You're getting into the game a little late. The fire in your link happened in June of 2013, followed by a fire in Canada on 08/01/13 and my fire on 08/07/13. Another fire on Christmas Day and now Dat Guy's last weekend.
 
You listed 5 fires.
I'd like to know where and when this one was?

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/mpo/4527650853.html

I posted this one before, but I can't get anyone on craigslist to comment on it.
Is it the 6 fire?

A friend bought his wife a new Ford Escape within a year there was a recall. He was told not to drive it. Ford would pick it up and give them a loner until the could resolve the problem. He decided to drive it to the dealer and pick up the loner as he needed to get it done. It took the dealer sometime to aquire the loner because their lot was full of the recall cars from other owners. Anyway the problem was the motor would get up to temp and the trans would spew fluid on the exhaust pipe causing fire.
The fix was easy. It was not a mechanical problem, but was a big software issue.
Took the techs from start to finish 8hrs to reload new software.
Back to the Monday/Friday thing.
Back to Mechanical or software.
FInding a software issue in a burned down anything you'd better be on your "A" game.
 
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There are other Fires beyond those. I purchased a trailer hitch from a burned out RS last year in GA. I know another few former members had fires with RS's as well, (some guy with the shark looking front decal kit), and mine. They were not 2013's nor RTs. So spontaneous combustion while on the vehicle is, jarring to say the least.

My issue is being sorted out elsewhere, and when that is finalized I will be filing a report with the NHTSA so that current or future Spyder Lovers can have information and facts. My wreckage is being investigated.
 
FireSale said:
There are other Fires beyond those. I purchased a trailer hitch from a burned out RS last year in GA. I know another few former members had fires with RS's as well, (some guy with the shark looking front decal kit), and mine. They were not 2013's nor RTs. So spontaneous combustion while on the vehicle is, jarring to say the least.

My issue is being sorted out elsewhere, and when that is finalized I will be filing a report with the NHTSA so that current or future Spyder Lovers can have information and facts. My wreckage is being investigated.
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It has been my understanding that the fires in the early RS were caused by the hose to the evap canister and I have not heard of one of them burning in a couple of years. If you have an issue why don't you report it to the NHTSA now, rather than late?
 
oldguyinCT said:
These fires are not "accidents". They are the result of serious design flaws that BRP refuses to address. On the whole, Spyders are safer that 2 wheelers. But if one starts burning under your butt, you might change your mind as to weather or not they can ​be dangerous.
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What do you know about BRP refuses to adress those Spyder fires? It's easy behind a keyboard to make this affirmation. They had a recall as I know.
 
scarecrow said:
You listed 5 fires.
I'd like to know where and when this one was?

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/eat/mpo/4527650853.html

I posted this one before, but I can't get anyone on craigslist to comment on it.
Is it the 6 fire?

A friend bought his wife a new Ford Escape within a year there was a recall. He was told not to drive it. Ford would pick it up and give them a loner until the could resolve the problem. He decided to drive it to the dealer and pick up the loner as he needed to get it done. It took the dealer sometime to aquire the loner because their lot was full of the recall cars from other owners. Anyway the problem was the motor would get up to temp and the trans would spew fluid on the exhaust pipe causing fire.
The fix was easy. It was not a mechanical problem, but was a big software issue.
Took the techs from start to finish 8hrs to reload new software.
Back to the Monday/Friday thing.
Back to Mechanical or software.
FInding a software issue in a burned down anything you'd better be on your "A" game.
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Just looking at the front wheels that should be pre 2013. Maybe a 2012 or 11. Unless of course they are not the original front wheels.
 
I just checked the 2013 brochure...
The base models carried a 15" wheel on those bikes, that looked an awful lot like the earlier RT wheels...
 
Hayfield said:
The problem with the Chevy Corvair was that so many mechanics did not know how to work on it. I worked for a guy who was a retired GM engineer who could make them sing. He had so much business, just with Corvairs, that his garage was sometimes mistaken for a used car lot, and people would come in to buy

I suspect some of our issues may very well have to do with the quality of the mechanic that some dealerships employ. Some of you know that the dealership where I bought my RT left parts off the rear brake when they performed the recall work. I am happy to report that, to date, the ECM update seems to have resolved the extreme heat that was giving me 1st degree burns on my thighs when I rode for more than an hour. The glove box area no longer gets extremely hot, nor do I have the terrible heat shooting out from the seat lock mechanism, when the seat is open. I've put over 3,000 miles on my Spyder since the ECM update (bulletin 2013-9 I think?) and am very happy with how it runs. Will it someday turn into a pile of slag on the side of the road? Who knows? But I plan on riding as often as I can, and will cross that bridge if I ever come to it.
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Yes, I had the same kind of problems with mechanics working on my Corvairs, so I started doing my own work and later wound up working on other peoples Corvairs and just like the guy you worked with, I turned my garage into a Corvair shop. Before to long I had more work than I could keep up with. All it takes is doing good work and treating customers right. Fortunately I bought my 2013 RS-S Spyder from a great dealer, (Clems in Enumclaw) and have put on over 4000 miles with zero problems.
 
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