2013 RT Fire, 26 July 2014

[JkRbbt]

I don't worry so much about traveling down the road and catching fire. The machines don't really "blow up". They catch fire. Doesn't take long to brake and dump it. Hopefully you are not on the Golden Gate at rush hour! :shocked: My concern has been parking in my ATTACHED garage. Come back from a ride, put her in the garage and a while later your HOUSE is gone! That is my concern, right now.

 

[kubie]

Just My 2 Cents!

First of all I would like to say I am glad you are ok Sir. And Hope all turns out well for you ! IMO you should get a full reimbursement and given a 2014 for your troubles! With that said...

I know it is the 2013 RT that seams to be burning Up. But the 2013 ST gets super hot also. Mine gets Very Very hot But I just figured I had to live with it!

I Didn't and Don't have the time to call, write or email BRP until they answer me so I purchased the 2014 panel kit. I Haven't gotten it yet.... Its on Back order!!! But I am Hopful the Kit helps because I don't want mine to be the first ST-S to burn up! I Love my Spyder, and I'm going to Keep on Ryding Because I am Addicted to this thing, and I love to Ryde!

Safe Rydyng to Ya All!

Kubie:doorag:

 

[bmccaffrey]

My feelings on this subject are well known and documented. The fix was a band aid at best. Promises of future RT fixes from BRP reps earlier this year have not materialized . Maybe the ST is good for 2014 some people have gotten free '14 panels for their 13 but others had to pay? Anyone who jumped ship from a 998 to a 1330 has no dog in this fight. Any shade tree fixes done may help, but, the issues of 10lbs of fiery hot crap stuffed in a 5lb Tupperware bag remain.:dontknow: I asked for a special rebate for '13 owners to upgrade maybe a buy back is in order. BRP Steve do you see what GM is going through and they had millions of units with a few lemons you guys got a bunch of lemons in a small bag IMHO.

Well said Dave!!!!!!!!!:thumbup:

 

[bmccaffrey]

itirst of all I would like to say I am glad you are ok Sir. And Hope all turns out well for you ! IMO you should get a full reimbursement and given a 2014 for your troubles! With that said...

I know it is the 2013 RT that seams to be burning Up. But the 2013 ST gets super hot also. Mine gets Very Very hot But I just figured I had to live with it!

I Didn't and Don't have the time to call, write or email BRP until they answer me so I purchased the 2014 panel kit. I Haven't gotten it yet.... Its on Back order!!! But I am Hopful the Kit helps because I don't want mine to be the first ST-S to burn up! I Love my Spyder, and I'm going to Keep on Ryding Because I am Addicted to this thing, and I love to Ryde!

Safe Rydyng to Ya All!

Kubie:doorag:

You had to purchase It? That is bull. It is there problem not yours:sour:

 

[Magdave]

You had to purchase It? That is bull. It is there problem not yours:sour:

Like I said above some got them for free some did not. I was hoping to see a similar fix for the RT namely new upper panel with a decent scoop in it to promote ventilation. Even that may not be a solution though sitting in traffic all the parts that melt still get too hot. :dontknow: I knew this was going to happen this summer ...again.

 

[spydee owner]

fire

Now at least four that I know of. Not trying to incite anyone, just stating what is known to be true. Take a look at the complaints about the 2013 RT's on the NHTSA site. You will find that almost all are complaints about people getting burned, excess heat, boiling gasoline, and more. Are these people trying to incite? I think not. They are simply reporting known issues in the hope that BRP may wake up & get serious about fixing what many of the complainants refer to as "dangerous machines". It is my hope that no one is injured or worse when the next one burns.

So you personally know what caused this fire before anyone else? We on this forum do not know what mods have been made to this bike either by BRP or the owner. The owner of this machine stated that he spent thousands to correct the heat problem.
Really, on a 2013 that is under warranty.

I have owned 4 spyders one was a 2013 RT .............. put 7500 miles on it without issue. Traded for a 2013 ST Ltd.
In my opinion, people such as yourself do incite dislike and mistrust.
Also, even though I have had no dealings with Carlo at BRP, many people on this forum seem to like him and find him helpful.
If you dislike these -in your own words- dangerous machines, why don't you just sell it and buy a Toyota or GM or Ford or Honda or HD product? They have all had recalls for a variety of things.
I don't care if some on this forum find this post a little salty or acidic, get out your flame throwers I can take it.
Wait for the facts of the fire investigation, then start spouting off!

 

[finless]

I knew this was going to happen this summer ...again.

I hate to say it but me too...

An interesting thing. Of the 4 that have burned or caught fire, 2 happened in California where humidity is low and temps can be 95 easy in the summer! Coincidence?

Bob

 

[Magdave]

So you personally know what caused this fire before anyone else? We on this forum do not know what mods have been made to this bike either by BRP or the owner. The owner of this machine stated that he spent thousands to correct the heat problem.
Really, on a 2013 that is under warranty.

I have owned 4 spyders one was a 2013 RT .............. put 7500 miles on it without issue. Traded for a 2013 ST Ltd.
In my opinion, people such as yourself do incite dislike and mistrust.
Also, even though I have had no dealings with Carlo at BRP, many people on this forum seem to like him and find him helpful.
If you dislike these -in your own words- dangerous machines, why don't you just sell it and buy a Toyota or GM or Ford or Honda or HD product? They have all had recalls for a variety of things.
I don't care if some on this forum find this post a little salty or acidic, get out your flame throwers I can take it.
Wait for the facts of the fire investigation, then start spouting off!

And you live in Canada where hitting 70deg is a heat wave come on down to the lower south and you will be singing a different tune I am sure. As for selling them the depreciation on a 13 is almost 1/2 of what you paid because of the defects. Step into the real world do you want to give BRP $10k to get rid of what is their problem? There won't be any facts forth coming from BRP heck they even refused to pick up one that caught on fire already. There is nothing left to analyze.

 

[bn2wild]

2013's and fires

I am glad you are OK, sorry about your bike...

You know what always sticks out in my mind? I see lots of people joining our group here and on facebook, and they are always so proud of their new 2013 Spyder that they got and love it.
We all know it was a fabulous bike, but I always wonder if anyone ever says "hey the 2013's have a history of catching fire"?
Then I think, what if I didn't know this and bought one... Would someone tell me? How would I know before I bought it?

I think there has to be a notice when selling these 2013's to people!

 

[CentralCoastCA]

Dat Guy, glad you are okay and help was close. Hope to see you ryding again.

 

[flamingobabe]

so glad you are OK...report this to www.nhtsa.gov scary

 

[KX5062]

I'm glad you're safe and I too will echo the report it to NHTSA thing.

https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/index.xhtml

I will also opine that owner modifications done to solve a heat problem that BRP was unable to solve and are properly documented will not cause any real problem. IF BRP chooses to be nasty they can raise the issue, but I don't believe in the end it would amount to anything more than be nasty, if they say anything about it at all.

In California, they, being either the insurance company or BRP, would be on the hook for fair market value and not replacement cost, unless you have that as a rider on your insurance policy. If BRP offers to replace it, then that would be a bonus and they are not obligated to do that. It might work better to go through your insurance company and let them slug it out with BRP for reimbursement. Just a thought.

 

[spydee owner]

temps

And you live in Canada where hitting 70deg is a heat wave come on down to the lower south and you will be singing a different tune I am sure.

I rode the 2013 RT last summer in a ride that was in ambient temperature of 35 degrees Celcius (95 fahrenheit)for about 250 miles without issue.
The temperatures up here do go much higher than 70F. Have ridden the ST and my GS in similar conditions, with no issues.
So if ambient temps are excessive is that the machines fault? Some HD owners in Southern US also have heat issues and I will hazard to speculate that other motorcycle manufacturers have similar issues.

 

[Magdave]

 

[bmccaffrey]

I am glad you are OK, sorry about your bike...

You know what always sticks out in my mind? I see lots of people joining our group here and on facebook, and they are always so proud of their new 2013 Spyder that they got and love it.
We all know it was a fabulous bike, but I always wonder if anyone ever says "hey the 2013's have a history of catching fire"?
Then I think, what if I didn't know this and bought one... Would someone tell me? How would I know before I bought it?

I think there has to be a notice when selling these 2013's to people!

WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY?????????
MAKE IT RIGHT BRP!!!!!

 

[Magdave]

I rode the 2013 RT last summer in a ride that was in ambient temperature of 35 degrees Celcius (95 fahrenheit)for about 250 miles without issue.
The temperatures up here do go much higher than 70F. Have ridden the ST and my GS in similar conditions, with no issues.
So if ambient temps are excessive is that the machines fault? Some HD owners in Southern US also have heat issues and I will hazard to speculate that other motorcycle manufacturers have similar issues.

Don't bother to hazard we could care less about anything but our $30k Spyder. 250mi. is a trip to the store for most of us it takes time for things to melt and includes a lot of stop and go and sitting in traffic riding. You can defend all you want but they admitted a problem when they issued a recall and told people at events a fix (in addition to recal) was coming soon. That was several months ago and not a peep has been heard.:banghead:

 

[spydee owner]

fire

Just saying that get all the facts before posting.
Yes, report to NHTSB, (that in my opinion is the way to go).
Pictures do not tell the story without the documented facts of the investigation.

 

[Bob Denman]

Was it a recall?
Or a Technical Service Bulletin?

 

[Magdave]

Was it a recall?
Or a Technical Service Bulletin?

It was a Recall for the tinfoil fix Bob.

 

[Bob Denman]

Thanks! :thumbup:
Since I had no dog in that fight; I honestly wasn't paying attention as to exactly how it went down...