Evoluzione air filter?

[Just Doo Me]

Well I received my Evoluzione air filter yesterday [by UPS @ssholes

charged $40. brokerage fee,forgot to specify shipping USPS]and while reading the instruction sheet it mentions "for even greater performance, remove the rubber intake tubes from the front of the airbox."I was wondering what were your results ?Pros & Cons? I pulled mine out and went for a short ride,never felt any noticeable difference[I have a Hindle].For those that dont know this is a dry element filter that is advertised to add hp and trq. over the more restrictive oem filter as well as a better fit.I got it more for the reusable application[tap it or blow it out]you dont have to use a degreaser or re-oil it like a K&N.The total cost with exchange shipping and brokerage fees to Canada set me back $125. ouch

 

[aka1004]

i also have hindle and i had hindle installed first and when i added ken's filter and o2 sensor, there was a big difference. hindle had this "dry" feel to it before those 2 mods. i had installed both o2 sensor and filter at the same time i am not sure what made bigger difference but i have no complaint. it was best money i spent on spyder other than f1 slider windshield. oh and i did took out the baffles also and it added intake noise but its not a bad sounding noise i don't think.

 

[bjt]

I had the intake tubes out when I first installed my Evoluzione air filter too. I didn't notice any difference except for the intake noise was much louder. I put the intake tubes back in.

 

[Latemarch]

Well, after reading this article
http://www.nicoclub.com/articles.php?id=180100 :yikes:

I'm sticking with the oem filter. nojoke

 

[bone crusher]

Well, after reading this article
http://www.nicoclub.com/articles.php?id=180100 :yikes:

I'm sticking with the oem filter. nojoke

I thought the evoluzione was NOT oil based...it is a better paper construction, from what I've read...plus, it can be cleaned and re-used...in the long-run, might be a better way to go if it fits better...that certainly will lead to less dust and dirt getting through, no?

 

[Just Doo Me]

Good read.Did you know the Spyder uses a Puraltor filter.I use a k&n in my truck and car maybe not such a good idea.The Evoluzione is a dry material [cotton?] and does fit well.

 

[Latemarch]

Admittedly, if the oem doesn't fit well then it doesn't matter how well the element filters if the dirt goes around the edges. Mine doesn't seem to have that particular problem. If yours does then for sure the evoluzione filter will be an improvement.

My take on the article was the lower the flow resistance the more dirt was passed.......that just seems to make sense. So it's not so much what it's made out of but how big the holes are that the air gets thru.

 

[Firefly]

I thought the evoluzione was NOT oil based...it is a better paper construction, from what I've read...plus, it can be cleaned and re-used...in the long-run, might be a better way to go if it fits better...that certainly will lead to less dust and dirt getting through, no?

The standard Evoluzione air filter is NOT oil based. It works like the OEM filter, other than you can clean it off and reuse it, and it does fit the box better.

The Race airflow system which I have DOES require oiling the foam filter. Not that big of a deal to pop it out, clean it and re-oil - just like my dirt bike days! It increases the airflow quite a bit compared to stock - mainly because you remove the bulky restrictive tubes AND entire airbox.

I don't believe that Ken touts his replacement filter as giving you more HP - only that it fits better and can be cleaned and reused.

 

[bone crusher]

The standard Evoluzione air filter is NOT oil based. It works like the OEM filter, other than you can clean it off and reuse it, and it does fit the box better.

The Race airflow system which I have DOES require oiling the foam filter. Not that big of a deal to pop it out, clean it and re-oil - just like my dirt bike days! It increases the airflow quite a bit compared to stock - mainly because you remove the bulky restrictive tubes AND entire airbox.

I don't believe that Ken touts his replacement filter as giving you more HP - only that it fits better and can be cleaned and reused.

Cool...still considering if I'm gonna get this from...I think more NMN lights come first though...

 

[Latemarch]

The standard Evoluzione air filter is NOT oil based. It works like the OEM filter, other than you can clean it off and reuse it, and it does fit the box better.

I don't believe that Ken touts his replacement filter as giving you more HP - only that it fits better and can be cleaned and reused.

quote Evoluzione "featuring the latest in synthetic dry media (meaning no more messy cleaners & oils), this high flow air filter produces the best clean air flow with the lowest restriction - this is possible by employing larger pleats than other standard filters. this filter is a direct drop-in replacement for the restrictive factory filter. also important, this filter utilize a synthetic "cotton gauze" material that can be cleaned & reused."

In general the higher the flow the more dirt let thru. Though there are exceptions where the higher flow is because the overall area of the filter is increased as per the "larger pleats" in the quote above.

You pays your money.....and you takes your chances.

I wonder if the point of restriction isn't at the airbox design (snorkle) rather than the filter anyway and how much performance improvement you get from changing the filter.....some dyno data would be nice. The seat of the pants dyno suffers greatly from the placebo effect.

There are also air flow resonance characteristics that are sometimes built into the airbox and changing to a low resistance filter actually degrades performance. I seem to recall that this was the conclusion come to on some Goldwings where dyno testing showed a decrease in HP. Though whether BRP went to that much trouble in designing their airbox seems unlikely.

 

[Just Doo Me]

It does say right in the instructions that come with it "has been designed to add horsepower and torque by replacing the restrictive factory air filter.":clap:

I don't believe that Ken touts his replacement filter as giving you more HP - only that it fits better and can be cleaned and reused.[/quote]

 

[Greg H.]

My take on all this air filter stuff right now is this..

After looking at my OEM filter at 6,000+ miles, I think I will be able to get about 12,000 miles on it. That's economy enough for me. Plus; mine seals fine as far as I can see.

As far as the $50+ Evo replacment filter; I have beat that around a lot, too. But, I keep holding off. Also; I have thought about the $250 race set up. And, I have almost pulled the trigger on that, as well. My problem with that is, like some have already said is the fact that it's pulling 'hot' air. More air, yes - but, hot air. So; besides the added intake noise, how much actual performance improvement is there? More noise can certainly be a powerful aphrodisiac. The best air is air that is being pulled in from outside (a true cold air intake system) the Spyder like the intake that Lamont, and a few others have devised.

These are just my thoughts. And, I'll bet there is some performance gain with the $250 race system. Not to mention, no more messy, oily, airbox. Is it worth $250, though? I cannot come to terms with that part of it yet. I don't know.

 

[crazycanuck]

if anything gives me more HP, I could be presuaded

 

[Firefly]

So it must be the larger pleats that are helping airflow.

I'm 1/2 done with my cold-air intake that works with the Race Airflow setup. I've got dual cowl vents installed, running race grace ducts to a new airbox I'm building - all insulated to keep hot engine air out.

I added the fuel pressure mod also - so I could add more fuel since there is more air coming in now. I can say it makes a noticable difference. No lag, sputter, nothing. After having it for 6 months I got used to the noise, but now with a Calsci shield installed I can really hear it - thus another reason for building a new airbox with cold air venting.

I rode another stock spyder awhile ago and it was a good reminder of how my bike used to run - the difference was VERY noticable - felt like the stock spyder was a dog.