WARNING -SPYDER RS SE5 2012 WARNING

[Bob Denman]

Well... I've got a UPS guy; but that's about it! pps:
Yeah; Scotty would have had this fellow all sorted-out a long time ago.
I hope that he decides to return... :shocked:

 

[Magdave]

Well... I've got a UPS guy; but that's about it! pps:
Yeah; Scotty would have had this fellow all sorted-out a long time ago.
I hope that he decides to return... :shocked:

We need a stick your tongue out raspberry emoticon.

 

[Bob Denman]

That Would be fun; wouldn't it?

 

[ARtraveler]

I was the first to say it was legit too :thumbup: If Scotty were here he would have beat me to it. Besides I am bored waiting for the UPS guy to deliver my Ultimate seat old one is off sitting in the garage. Do you have one of those Bob?hyea:

Yes, some of us are on the skeptical side sometimes. I sure was here. Crow sandwich for lunch today--in honor of the OP. Sorry about that Can-Am-Bob. Hope my apologies are accepted. :thumbup:

 

[flaggerphil]

In his update the OP said he knows how to ride this bike. However, he also says he was cruising at 45 mph in 4th gear. I don't think that's very good for the se5...

 

[Magdave]

In his update the OP said he knows how to ride this bike. However, he also says he was cruising at 45 mph in 4th gear. I don't think that's very good for the se5...

Absolutely right and probably the cause. He needs not to share that info with the dealer IMHO.

 

[Eagle1]

We need a stick your tongue out raspberry emoticon.

How's this?

 

[ARtraveler]

Absolutely right and probably the cause. He needs not to share that info with the dealer IMHO.

RE: Shift points. I took the 998 out for a spin today and did some checking.

I could cruise at 45 mph in 4th gear and the tachometer was right at and just above 4000 rpm.

I could also cruise at 55 mph in 5th gear with the tachometer right at and just above 4000 rpm.

Since many consider less than 3500 rpm to be bad for the :ani29:, the 4000 + rpms--IMO--does not represent harmful actions to the :spyder2: .

I do find this is the very low end of the torque and the motor does not come alive until you are at 4500 or higher.

I do drive the 998 at 4500 + pretty much at all times, but wanted to check this out for myself. Hope this helps.

I now have over 75,000 miles of operating the :f_spider: this way. Have not had any clutch or transmission issues.

 

[Bob Denman]

Yes, some of us are on the skeptical side sometimes. I sure was here. Crow sandwich for lunch today--in honor of the OP. Sorry about that Can-Am-Bob. Hope my apologies are accepted. :thumbup:

I'll admit to it as well... pps: :agree:

In his update the OP said he knows how to ride this bike. However, he also says he was cruising at 45 mph in 4th gear. I don't think that's very good for the se5...

45 mph in 4th gear is only a little bit on the low side...That would be damaging clutch plates, and not the transmission anyway. :shocked:

 

[Illinois Boy]

I'll admit to it as well... pps: :agree:


45 mph in 4th gear is only a little bit on the low side...That would be damaging clutch plates, and not the transmission anyway. :shocked:

4th gear at 45 is NOT good Bob -- despite your opinion.

You do not begin to have power until 4500 rpm's. A lot of people are hung-up on making sure they at least are at the clutch-lock rpm's (3200 +/- 200) -- however one will find they will eventually have drivetrain problems if they run their 900 series SE Spyders like that.

I promise you. You should see the damage reports on Spyders that are ridden consistently in this manner. It is NOT good.

Keep your rpm's at 4300+ at all times on a 900 series SE Spyder. It is a much better practice.

I know you disagree; but quite respectfully, I strongly disagree with you, and have seen the evidence.

We all due respect...

 

[Bob Denman]

We were told to keep them over 3500 rpm; By BRP factory Reps...
Perhaps rampant inflation is bringing that number up also? :dontknow:
You'll never HURT it by spinning it higher... :thumbup:

 

[ARtraveler]

4th gear at 45 is NOT good Bob -- despite your opinion.

You do not begin to have power until 4500 rpm's. A lot of people are hung-up on making sure they at least are at the clutch-lock rpm's (3200 +/- 200) -- however one will find they will eventually have drivetrain problems if they run their 900 series SE Spyders like that.

I promise you. You should see the damage reports on Spyders that are ridden consistently in this manner. It is NOT good.

Keep your rpm's at 4300+ at all times on a 900 series SE Spyder. It is a much better practice.

I know you disagree; but quite respectfully, I strongly disagree with you, and have seen the evidence.

We all due respect...

Another counter point in post #49 here.

 

[Bob Denman]

If we wait another year; they'll be screaming at everybody, to not let them drop below 6,000 rpm... :roflblack:

 

[Illinois Boy]

If we wait another year; they'll be screaming at everybody, to not let them drop below 6,000 rpm... :roflblack:

Seriously Bob? I believe I have remained quite consistent in my opinion and recommendations, and have done my best to support the opinion. In fact, I believe most have remained consistent. Glad you think it is funny.

Maybe you'll eventually find a Spyder that can be in sixth-gear at 1000 rpm's. Geez... I would have expected more from you of any on here.

On another note; post 49 does nothing to disprove my point. You can certainly ride a Spyder 900 series SE at those rpm's. Apparently the point is wasted around here. Geez...

 

[Magdave]

At those rpms in a strong headwind ( as OP said) you are borderline on screwing the CENTRIFICAL clutch. Any damage to any part of the tranny can cause the rest to got kaput. By the way it is 3700 rpm for full lock up. You all know BRP keeps moving the goal line every year. :dontknow:

 

[ARtraveler]

Seriously Bob? I believe I have remained quite consistent in my opinion and recommendations, and have done my best to support the opinion. In fact, I believe most have remained consistent. Glad you think it is funny.

Maybe you'll eventually find a Spyder that can be in sixth-gear at 1000 rpm's. Geez... I would have expected more from you of any on here.

On another note; post 49 does nothing to disprove my point. You can certainly ride a Spyder 900 series SE at those rpm's. Apparently the point is wasted around here. Geez...

RE: My post #49

I have no argument with you and think both of us have good talking points. My ryde today was not bucking headwinds, so that would also be a valid point to consider. When we are at the low end of operational specifications, the headwinds would have an effect. Can't get scientific, cause that's not my area of expertise. I did make conscious effort to keep the tach at or above 4000 rpms--intentionally staying away from the 3500 (Danger, Danger, Will Robinson) factor.

Maybe BRPcare would come on and give us the current "scoop" and let us know if they have now figured out something we should be in the know about. :bowdown::bowdown:

 

[Illinois Boy]

At those rpms in a strong headwind ( as OP said) you are borderline on screwing the CENTRIFICAL clutch. Any damage to any part of the tranny can cause the rest to got kaput. By the way it is 3700 rpm for full lock up. You all know BRP keeps moving the goal line every year. :dontknow:

Thank you. It is not a wonder the most valuable member no longer participates...

 

[jScotD]

well I am still curious as to the VIN # on the machines affected and how close they

are to each other.....and.. with all all the codes posted here.. I'm going to punch into Roger's app and learn more about these finicky machines..

 

[Magdave]

Thank you. It is not a wonder the most valuable member no longer participates...

:hun::hun: If you want to lug a 998 below 4k rpm be my guest. Yes there are several different suggestion as to when it fully locks up 3200rpm+- 200, 3500 rpm, Personally I never let it go below 3700 without down shifting when cruising. The cruise on mine will not engage below 3700 RPM either that should tell you something. The SE tranny clutch system can vary from bike to bike just like each one runs at different temps. Lugging at 3500 rpm and a wind gust hits you the rpms will drop below any of the suggested RPMs.I choose to error on a safer RPM my self and rarely ride below 5000rpm where peak HP and Torque start at. Since you have a 2014 none of this applies to you anyway.:dontknow:

 

[fas2000]

Hi,
just wanted to confirm, are the shift point recommendations only for the se5,or does it apply to the sm5 also? As the centrifugal clutch doesn't apply here, I wasn't sure.
Tia
Fas

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