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ST SE5 mileage/gallon & Taking the Turns

Lilbkrbabe

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Hi,

Just took delivery of my Spyder today. What are you all getting for mileage?

Also, I noticed turning is VERY different. Almost scary different, as the steering AND throttle are quite light touches. Recommendations?

thanks,
Paula
 
Congratulations..!!

on the new ryde..don't worry about the mileage you will get somewhere from 27 to 40 mpg. There are a lot of variables and it does get better with time. On the handling you need to relax you grip. You have a DPS (dynamic power steering) which helps with steering. Follow your manual and practice like indicated. It will take 300-500 miles to get the hang of things. Your going to love it....:ohyea::ohyea:
 
Hi Paula!
:congrats: on you new ride; here's to lots of miles and smiles for your both! :cheers: :thumbup:
Turning: This is the biggest adaptation that needs to be made, to life on these Tri-Pods. :shocked:
How much two-wheeled experience do you have? Relax; you can pretty much forget all of it now! :D
But; do you have any ATV or Snowmobile experience? Those vehicles do offer a pretty-close approximation, to the feel of the Spyder! :thumbup:
Lean forward a bit to give yourself some "spare" arm... (I saw your other post about height...)
As you enter a turn; you'll actually have to turn the handlebars (unlike a two-wheeler), and lean your upper body to the inside of the turn.
Now: the "How Much" part, will come from experience. Start out slowly, and just build yourself up some experience with the bike. Most folks seem to take about 500 miles to really start feeling comfortable.
 
Thanks!!

So, 500 is the magic number, ease up on grips, read the manual, and the mileage will improve with practice and depending upon the trip.
Got it.

I have 16 years of 2-wheel experience, zip on 4-wheel off-road.

You've all given me some great ideas on modifying the bike. The first thing to go are the Can Am stickers, a cup holder would be nice, and some kind of pouch to hold my MTAG.

Thank you all!
Paula
 
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You've got it...

So, 500 is the magic number, ease up on grips, read the manual, and the mileage will improve with practice and depending upon the trip.
Got it.

I have 16 years of 2-wheel experience, zip on 4-wheel off-road.

You've all given me some great ideas on modifying the bike. The first thing to go are the Can Am stickers, a cup holder would be nice, and some kind of pouch to hold my MTAG.

Thank you all!
Paula

Find yourself a vacant parking lot to prctice in. It'll take a little but you'll be fine. For me, it was the absence of that front brake, I don't know how long it took before I stopped reaching for it...
 
1500 miles and here's my feedback

Just switched to 3 wheels (new ST) from a lot of years on 2 and think I know what you're feeling. You head into a turn, everything is going great and suddenly the bike takes off in one direction or the other. Scared the crap out of me the first (few) times it happened. Steering is hyper twitchy. Plus it's adaptive and changes depending on speed and RPMs. Wind (or the bow wave from a car) really move the bike around.

I am no expert but here are some things that have helped me get more comfortable on the bike:
1. Look through the turn. It works on 2 wheels, it works on 3. If you're looking at the nose cone, you're going there. If you're looking at the curve exit, that's where you're going.
2. Let go and use the force. Loose hands, loose shoulders, breath.
3. Just like any vehicle, brake before the curve, fast at the apex.
4. Do swervies. On a straight road, no traffic, lots of run-off, just move the bike around. This is pretty much what's in the operator's manual but on the road instead of a parking lot and higher speeds.
5. Find a twisty road with a good surface and just ride that puppy. It's big time fun and really helps get you used to the handling.
6. Body english helps. I move one butt cheek off the seat, lean forward toward the inside wheel and the difference is amazing. Run the same stretch of road with and without moving your body around.
7. If you can find some sand, play. I hit a patch doing a 360 this morning for the first time and it was interesting to feel the bike slide, then stop sliding. The traction control stuff takes a bit of getting used to. FWIW, this time of year in NH, most back roads are just getting of the frost heave season and full of sand from the winter. Running them on 2 wheels is pretty scary when you come around a corner and see sand from side to side! On 3 wheels...pffftt, Sand? We don't care 'bout no steenking sand! There's a little skitter as you go over then on to the next curve! (please note, you can and will slide. The traction control will not prevent you from going into the outer lane if you're moving too fast)
8. Try the ABS. While the 0 - 60 is impressive, the 60-0 is freaking amazing! I swear I went 50-0 in about 30'...I know that's not possible but that thing flat stops when you mash the brakes. Be careful; it stops fast enough you can toss yourself off the front if you're not paying attention.

The dealer told me when I picked up the ST that the more I rode, the more fun it would become. Moving from a 650 Ninja to the ST was a huge adjustment. Carving back roads is just as much fun but totally different. Enjoy!
 
on the new ryde..don't worry about the mileage you will get somewhere from 27 to 40 mpg. There are a lot of variables and it does get better with time. On the handling you need to relax you grip. You have a DPS (dynamic power steering) which helps with steering. Follow your manual and practice like indicated. It will take 300-500 miles to get the hang of things. Your going to love it....:ohyea::ohyea:

I pretty much agree. As a fairly new owner myself, about 6 months, I giggle when I say loosen up on the death grip you undoubtedly are hanging on with now. Tough to do at first, but when you get used to it, the bike handles like a dream. I have never figured out if the "dynamic power steering" is marketing hype or is really a fact. But you're gonna' love it. The mileage is just the sacrificial lamb of getting as much power our of 1 liter as they do. You will just learn to fuel up about every 150 miles like most of us.

Congrats oin the new ride.
 
Fantastic Advice

It's as though you were riding with me this weekend! Everything you mentioned is spot on as to what I experience.
Will try the English riding style to see if that helps. I'm not digging this thing in turns, but I'm sure it'll improve with time and practice. I already put on 300 miles and it's getting a little easier, but it will take a few more before I relax.

Thanks!
Paula

Just switched to 3 wheels (new ST) from a lot of years on 2 and think I know what you're feeling. You head into a turn, everything is going great and suddenly the bike takes off in one direction or the other. Scared the crap out of me the first (few) times it happened. Steering is hyper twitchy. Plus it's adaptive and changes depending on speed and RPMs. Wind (or the bow wave from a car) really move the bike around.

I am no expert but here are some things that have helped me get more comfortable on the bike:
1. Look through the turn. It works on 2 wheels, it works on 3. If you're looking at the nose cone, you're going there. If you're looking at the curve exit, that's where you're going.
2. Let go and use the force. Loose hands, loose shoulders, breath.
3. Just like any vehicle, brake before the curve, fast at the apex.
4. Do swervies. On a straight road, no traffic, lots of run-off, just move the bike around. This is pretty much what's in the operator's manual but on the road instead of a parking lot and higher speeds.
5. Find a twisty road with a good surface and just ride that puppy. It's big time fun and really helps get you used to the handling.
6. Body english helps. I move one butt cheek off the seat, lean forward toward the inside wheel and the difference is amazing. Run the same stretch of road with and without moving your body around.
7. If you can find some sand, play. I hit a patch doing a 360 this morning for the first time and it was interesting to feel the bike slide, then stop sliding. The traction control stuff takes a bit of getting used to. FWIW, this time of year in NH, most back roads are just getting of the frost heave season and full of sand from the winter. Running them on 2 wheels is pretty scary when you come around a corner and see sand from side to side! On 3 wheels...pffftt, Sand? We don't care 'bout no steenking sand! There's a little skitter as you go over then on to the next curve! (please note, you can and will slide. The traction control will not prevent you from going into the outer lane if you're moving too fast)
8. Try the ABS. While the 0 - 60 is impressive, the 60-0 is freaking amazing! I swear I went 50-0 in about 30'...I know that's not possible but that thing flat stops when you mash the brakes. Be careful; it stops fast enough you can toss yourself off the front if you're not paying attention.

The dealer told me when I picked up the ST that the more I rode, the more fun it would become. Moving from a 650 Ninja to the ST was a huge adjustment. Carving back roads is just as much fun but totally different. Enjoy!
 
they got it covered

Greetings from slightly south, or west north west depending waht part you're in.

after 12 years on two wheels, going to the SE5 was a change. I still find my self grabing for the clutch. if you are on the SE5 becareful of this. If you grab that imaginary clucth to fast/hard you are likely to down shift, did that once or twice.

watch the safety videos, there are some good ones on youtube.
 
:welcome: and :congrats: on the new ryde.

As others have said, watch the overcontrol. The :spyder2: is very responsive to handlebar input.

I usually plant the outside foot and slightly lean into the turn. These actions counteract the G forces a bit.

You should be good to go after about 500 miles on your new :ani29:. It took me almost 1500 miles to "get it right."
 
as other have said....press down with outside foot and into panel with outside knee...push with outside hand and ....lean into the curve....just for fun try leaning your shoulder over inside hand...that is a big extravagation...but overdoing the leaning will make you feel your happy place....congrats on the new ST....on the road traveling I get 33-35 mpg.....around town...I don't check
 
milage

I have a 2013ST 2200 miles. My last fill up got 35.4 mpg using spyder codes app on my phone. No heat issues, and loving every minute on the bike.
 
Takes time & practice

:agree: With all the above mentioned advise. But #1 improvement is the swaybar. It is like nite & day. I ride mostly with a passenger and we are just cruising through the corners now. Sharon my passenger does help alot, she is always looking ahead and leans at just the right time. In case I forgot to mention it SWAYBAR!:2thumbs:
 
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