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Hesitation on hard right turns

The system is still going to see a lot of throttle/acceleration with sharp steering angle??

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DrewNJ said:
You all need to get working on some forced induction for the triple!

The vtwin isn't really all that great of a boost motor. Some have done it with OK results but its all low psi stuff. Its good for 150hp NA but after that it needs more. Maybe the Aprilia V4 motor?

Need one of you RT guys to work up 2 bar boost on that triple. See what it can really do!

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I'll help you guys as best I can.

The RTs triple is fine as is for this house.

I had been considering removing the cat and Lamonsters pipe makes it easy, just not sure I want that method yet. Good converters are not known to be restrictive, but make excellent mufflers. Usually, uncorking any vehicle by reducing back pressure moves the power up a bit and kills bottom end some. Just not sure how I want to take this yet. He did add length which is typically good for power down low. Just waiting to hear a good sound clip.

As for forced induction, it would have to be a turbo or a very creative drive for the blower. With no external outputs except the drive pulley, things get tough. A turbo could work, as it seems the airbox is pretty well built and sealed (except the airfilter cover). But then yes you add boost, then need bigger fuel injectors and all the electronics to manage it.

I would say that it would be less fuss to build a carbon fibre body panel set, an aluminum or chromoly frame and swingarm with chromoly front suspension arms adding of course castor and camber, plus redoing the fuel cell in aluminum. Sometimes it is easier to change power to weight ratios by dieting rather than working the engine. More HP will eat clutches, gears, belts and so on. Plus I don't believe the chassis weight bias is optimum to load the rear tire for stunning launch. Almost as if the rear tire needs to go forward, to get more weight on it.

1330cc, fine for us at this time.

PK
 
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DrewNJ said:
The system is still going to see a lot of throttle/acceleration with sharp steering angle??

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:agree: And keep in mind that some of the cutout under these conditions is caused by loss of rear tire traction. Granted, the system seems to be more sensitive with the bars cranked over, but addressing the lighter weight on the rear and the physics of the turn, as well as the rear tire coefficient of traction would be necessary to completely eliminate any system intervention...unless the system was disabled altogether.
 
PMK said:
As for forced induction, it would have to be a turbo or a very creative drive for the blower. With no external outputs except the drive pulley, things get tough. A turbo could work, as it seems the airbox is pretty well built and sealed (except the airfilter cover). But then yes you add boost, then need bigger fuel injectors and all the electronics to manage it.
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has anybody looked to see if Aerocharger is working on anything? :dontknow:


Yes; I enjoy the "Quest For Knowledge"...
I just preach some caution; that's all. :D
 
Bob Denman said:
has anybody looked to see if Aerocharger is working on anything? :dontknow:


Yes; I enjoy the "Quest For Knowledge"...
I just preach some caution; that's all. :D
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I called led and talked to them, they have no correction for the VSS system but then again they don't have anything available for a bike newer then 2012
 
NancysToy said:
:agree: And keep in mind that some of the cutout under these conditions is caused by loss of rear tire traction. Granted, the system seems to be more sensitive with the bars cranked over, but addressing the lighter weight on the rear and the physics of the turn, as well as the rear tire coefficient of traction would be necessary to completely eliminate any system intervention...unless the system was disabled altogether.
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The VSS is obviously set to over compensate on hard right turns like this. The other day I kicked the backend out on a right hand turn wasn't 90 degrees and VSS didn't do anything. I do a 90 degree turn much slower and it kicks in and there is no way the back tire is losing traction at that time. Be curious to know how a new 2014 RS-S does on this.
 
NetJunkie said:
Be curious to know how a new 2014 RS-S does on this.
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I'm curious as well, BRP states they relaxed the VSS system. I still don't understand why they can't wright a program for the older models ?? When I called they said most of the components are different for 2014 but when it comes to the next model year part numbers usually change anyway.

This has been my really sole complaint about the bike
 
billrob71 said:
I'm curious as well, BRP states they relaxed the VSS system. I still don't understand why they can't wright a program for the older models ?? When I called they said most of the components are different for 2014 but when it comes to the next model year part numbers usually change anyway.

This has been my really sole complaint about the bike
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I could see them doing this with sensors that had higher sample rates... I also think the "relaxed" VSS is something they built for the next generation RS-S and it either got moved up or the RS-S updates got moved back. Guess we'll see later this year.
 
NetJunkie said:
I could see them doing this with sensors that had higher sample rates... I also think the "relaxed" VSS is something they built for the next generation RS-S and it either got moved up or the RS-S updates got moved back. Guess we'll see later this year.
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I don't know but I have a 13 and there was only 3 or 4 changes made between the two years .

I still don't think my decision of getting my 13 just do too the colors they have for 14 maybe the next update if they do a engine swap and bring back the green maybe time for a change .
 
Hope you're right..and if anyone from BRP is reading I'd love to try a test mule for you. I bet I'm close to your target audience for it. Contact me. ;)
 
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