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Technical Service Bulletin

Trip??????

These service bulletins continue to reinforce my worry about taking the SE5 Spyder on a trip. How can BRP let these go on sale with so many flaws? If I travel 600 miles up to Monterey, and the Spyder brakes down, it's not like hauling a motorcycle home---getting one of these home will be a major task. I have a 2005 Suzuki Burgman 650 scooter with almost 10,000 miles, and it has never had one problem---it's the most trustworthy two wheeler I've ever had, and I've had many over the last 40 years. So----I may pack down the Burgman---and shuffle off north.
 
These service bulletins continue to reinforce my worry about taking the SE5 Spyder on a trip. How can BRP let these go on sale with so many flaws? If I travel 600 miles up to Monterey, and the Spyder brakes down, it's not like hauling a motorcycle home---getting one of these home will be a major task. I have a 2005 Suzuki Burgman 650 scooter with almost 10,000 miles, and it has never had one problem---it's the most trustworthy two wheeler I've ever had, and I've had many over the last 40 years. So----I may pack down the Burgman---and shuffle off north.

Sara, I can't understand your concern for your Spyder. The Spyder is a new production, and in my opinion, has done excellently. Nothing ever produced by man is perfect. The Spyder is a combination of mechanics and electronics. The engine is bullet-prove and the Bosch (VSS) electronics is the best in the business with many proven years in some of Europe's elite cars. It is not perfect, neither is the Honda motorcycle or Rolls Royce. Of the thousands sold, the ones with problems are probably less that 1 out of one thousand. This forum helps us to present our peculiarities to others to make them aware, and many times get answers to resolve them without going to the dealers. I have read some of your posts and it seems like you are afraid of your Spyder and it's ability to perform to your flawless expections. If that is the case, sell it. My wife and I are planning a trip to Nova Scotia from California this summer on our SE5 (it now has 5500 miles on it since I bought it 11-18-08). I trust my Spyder as much as I do our 2008 MBenz. I have also been riding since 1966 and have never had a motorcycle that has not needed repairs at one time or other (2 Kawasakis, 2 Goldwings, 2 Yamahas, 1 BMW). I have ridden over 350,000 miles in that span of time, so my bikes were not the 40 miles/weekend kind.
 
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Sara, I can't understand your concern for your Spyder. The Spyder is a new production, and in my opinion, has done excellently. Nothing ever produced my man is perfect. The Spyder is a combination of mechanics and electronics. The engine is bullet-prove and the Bosch (VSS) electronics is the best in the business with many proven years in some of Europe's elite cars. It is not perfect, neither is the Honda motorcycle or Rolls Royce. Of the thousands sold, the ones with problems are probably less that 1 out of one thousand. This forum helps us to present our peculiarities to others to make them aware, and many times get answers to resolve them without going to the dealers. I have read some of your posts and it seems like you are afraid of your Spyder and it's ability to perform to your flawless expections. If that is the case, sell it. My wife and I are planning a trip to Nova Scotia from California this summer on our SE5 (it now has 5500 miles on it since I bought it 11-18-08). I trust my Spyder as much as I do our 2008 MBens. I have also been riding since 1966 and have never had a motorcycle that has not needed repairs at one time or other (2 Kawasakis, 2 Goldwings, 2 Yamahas, 1 BMW). I have ridden over 350,000 miles in that span of time, so my bikes were not the 40 miles/weekend kind.

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Sara, these TSBs have been out for quite a while. The brake one only affected a few early machines, most of which were fixed before this previous riding season began. I have heard no further complaints about those machines. The transmission thing has affected some SE5s. It certainly has not affected them all. If you have had the service bulletin work performed on yours, I would forget it and just ride. If you have not, I might not be overly worried either. If your transmission hasn't shown any quirks, such as pulling while idling, or sticking in gear, you should be OK. If you have already put on a fair amount of local mileage, you have tested the waters...just because you head out on a trip, things are unlikely to change drastically. Even BMWs come with toolkits, and have been known to break down. Still, their riders rack up hundreds of thousands of miles, overall, each year. Don't fear what hasn't happened. I see no reason to believe that a Spyder that has functioned well for a few thousand miles, won't continue to do so for many miles to come.
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Get the BEST warranty with road service, carry a spare relay and some fuses, print off the dealer list for the states you will travel through and hit the road.
 
what a wonderful concept it would be to buy something that we know would never brake or give us a problem.. I would buy that crystal ball
 
The older you get, the more you realize that your body is more likely to break down than your bike. Health insurance card is more important than BEST card.
 
Have you driven a Ford, Chrysler, or GM>>>>

These service bulletins continue to reinforce my worry about taking the SE5 Spyder on a trip. How can BRP let these go on sale with so many flaws? If I travel 600 miles up to Monterey, and the Spyder brakes down, it's not like hauling a motorcycle home---getting one of these home will be a major task. I have a 2005 Suzuki Burgman 650 scooter with almost 10,000 miles, and it has never had one problem---it's the most trustworthy two wheeler I've ever had, and I've had many over the last 40 years. So----I may pack down the Burgman---and shuffle off north.

>>>>on a long trip over the past fifty years? Errors happen!
 
Plus, it's an easy fix. Go to your dealer and tell them to udate your TCM with BUDS. Takes about two minutes to update. I know, cause I'm a Platnium tech.
 
Had the update thing done last week. Main thing I noticed was a distinctive 'throttle blip' when downshifting. Unfortunately, it did not solve my spyder's problems. :banghead:
 
How do you open the TSB to see the recommended action (what SE5 owners need to show their local Spyder dealer).

I'd also like to know the answer to your question. I'm not sure if you can see anymore than what is shown when going to the link.
 
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Basically, according to my service manager, the service bulletin pertaining to '08 SE5 mentions replacing the 'gear position sensor' and 'oil pressure spring' in addition to a BUDS update.

The SB pertaining to the '09 SE5 only mentions the BUDS update, as supposedly, the new parts have already been installed.

Either of these fixes are only to be applied when symptoms warrant.
 
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+1. Read all of this thread for the things a bad first-generation gear position sensor can do... at least in my experience on an SM...

Clicky: http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7831

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Basically, according to my service manager, the service bulletin pertaining to '08 SE5 mentions replacing the 'gear position sensor' and 'oil pressure spring' in addition to a BUDS update.

The SB pertaining to the '09 SE5 only mentions the BUDS update, as supposedly, the new parts have already been installed.

Either of these fixes are only to be applied when symptoms warrant.
 
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