Potential to Make Some Money - Ram Air Scoops

[reverendg]

i like that, stainless mesh see- thru body panels, very sexy.:roflblack:

I dunno, don't want a tryke that reminds everyone of Cher or Lady Gaga.

 

[coz]

everybody

could see your juggs.:yikes:

 

[Dan McNally]

1. engines make heat.
2. bikes have engines.
3.engines make bikes hot.
4. nature of the beast.
5. fact of life.
6.:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

Other facts of life . . . melting master cylinders, melting brake cables, melting charcoal canisters are not normal . . . there is an issue, here. If you don't have that problem with your Spyder, well, thats just great . . . good for you. However, to cavalierly discount the validity of the issues almost half of 2013 Spyder riders are experienceing, according to the survey someone else conducted here is fatuous . . . I've ridden since the 60's and never had this kind of problem, before.

 

[coz]

spyders + heat

Other facts of life . . . melting master cylinders, melting brake cables, melting charcoal canisters are not normal . . . there is an issue, here. If you don't have that problem with your Spyder, well, thats just great . . . good for you. However, to cavalierly discount the validity of the issues almost half of 2013 Spyder riders are experienceing, according to the survey someone else conducted here is fatuous . . . I've ridden since the 60's and never had this kind of problem, before.

i've been around here for a while now. since day one people have bitched about the heat coming off their spyder, it never ends.:bdh: as for the 13 models, if you have a heat problem, take it to a COMPETENT dealer and get it fixed.

 

[Jeriatric]

There are people here who have done exactly that. Some have traveled hundreds of miles to a great dealer, AND, are still reporting problems.

What would you suggest they do?

I'm sure they will hang on your every word.

i've been around here for a while now. since day one people have bitched about the heat coming off their spyder, it never ends.:bdh: as for the 13 models, if you have a heat problem, take it to a COMPETENT dealer and get it fixed.

 

[CyncySpyder]

Hold up! We ALL don't ryde naked???

Yup! Yup!Maybe just do a naked version of the Spyder!

:yikes::yes::yes::yikes:

 

[Bob Denman]

pps:
Dave,
:shocked: Seeing your AMPLE jugs, on a Tuesday morning... pps:

Back to what Coz said for a moment...
he's absolutely right; It's my own honest (and unfortunate) opinion, that some folks in here are experiencing the joys of riding for the first time... They might not have th "benefit" of riding some of our more "compromised" bikes over the years.:shocked:
But when parts are melting; that's a horse of a different color... :yikes:

And my apologies to those out there who have hot body parts, AND have ridden for years...

 

[coz]

There are people here who have done exactly that. Some have traveled hundreds of miles to a great dealer, AND, are still reporting problems.

What would you suggest they do?

I'm sure they will hang on your every word.

maybe these folks should file a class action.

 

[Jeriatric]

Been throwing a leg over bikes since 1957. There were some that were hotter than others. That said, a first class, high end, Touring Bike, should not present heat issues for the rider. If it does...then the manufacturer missed the mark.

pps:
Dave,
:shocked: Seeing your AMPLE jugs, on a Tuesday morning... pps:

Back to what Coz said for a moment...
he's absolutely right; It's my own honest (and unfortunate) opinion, that some folks in here are experiencing the joys of riding for the first time... They might not have th "benefit" of riding some of our more "compromised" bikes over the years.:shocked:
But when parts are melting; that's a horse of a different color... :yikes:

And my apologies to those out there who have hot body parts, AND have ridden for years...

May be ?

maybe these folks should file a class action.

 

[anthony422]

No doubt, what you say has merrit, but think about it......... what would that really solve? :dontknow:

You'd be forcing ambient air into the engine compartment only when your moving at higher speeds.
I don't think most of us complain all that much about that issue in particular. (IMHO) The real problem seems to be when we're going slow or in stop & go traffic, & the heat builds up under the tupperware and when the radiator kicks on and causes the right foot to get torched The solution of the air scoop under the mirrors wouldn't really help much in these cases....... would it? :dontknow:
Heat rises, and those vents were placed there in an effort to give the heat another route of escape, instead of being trapped under the tupperware. Many of the posts I've read about the Vertika air-scoops that owners have them installed are not all that glowing of an endorsement and the results seem marginal at best, again at least from what I've read. I've yet to see anyone post that it relieved their problems with the heat.



Don't forget about FiberGlass & or Carbon Fiber (not that Carbon-fiber is cheap by any means) I do believe the parts that Vertika builds are actually made out of FiberGlass.

Exactly how I feel !!!!

 

[Dan McNally]

i've been around here for a while now. since day one people have bitched about the heat coming off their spyder, it never ends.:bdh: as for the 13 models, if you have a heat problem, take it to a COMPETENT dealer and get it fixed.

:agree: Please, enlighten us as to what steps the competent dealer should take . . . and, if there is a known solution, why BRP has not shared it with us?

 

[DrewNJ]

DAVE, I love the nakedness....lose the bags and fenders and paint the gas tank and your set!! :roflblack: :joke:

 

[DrewNJ]

:agree: Please, enlighten us as to what steps the competent dealer should take . . . and, if there is a known solution, why BRP has not shared it with us?

This question is going to sound like an ass, but I promise it is not meant that way....
What I'm curious about is why hasn't someone (or a group of you) taken it upon yourselves to make their own machine run right instead of waiting for BRP to take an interest in correcting?
I understand the "blah blah blah, I paid X amount of dollars, it should be right" type of thought, but personally, life is to short. I would want it to be right, even if it cost me a bit to make it right.... Also, you all are kidding yourselves if you think BRP is going to do anything significant retroactive on the 13's they've already sold. They'll change it up for 14'+

Many times, we the consumer, are better at making things BETTER than they came from the factory. MANY improvements that came from the factory started as aftermarket mods people came up with on their own.
Come on all, put your heads together and get it worked out and quit complaining that BRP isn't going to do it for you.....:banghead: JMHO.....

 

[3 Wheel Addict]

This question is going to sound like an ass, but I promise it is not meant that way....
What I'm curious about is why hasn't someone (or a group of you) taken it upon yourselves to make their own machine run right instead of waiting for BRP to take an interest in correcting?
I understand the "blah blah blah, I paid X amount of dollars, it should be right" type of thought, but personally, life is to short. I would want it to be right, even if it cost me a bit to make it right.... Also, you all are kidding yourselves if you think BRP is going to do anything significant retroactive on the 13's they've already sold. They'll change it up for 14'+

Many times, we the consumer, are better at making things BETTER than they came from the factory. MANY improvements that came from the factory started as aftermarket mods people came up with on their own.
Come on all, put your heads together and get it worked out and quit complaining that BRP isn't going to do it for you.....:banghead: JMHO.....

If you read into many many of the threads posted a lot of us have done various things to no avail. I personally thought I had the answer when I replaced the fog lights back with the factory vents, alas this did help but minimally. I have now removed and wrapped the complete exhaust system and that seems to have helped but it is too cold here now to tell for sure? Cuznjohn and Magdave as well as many many others have done lots and spent a fortune to come up with a fix. Maybe BRP is waiting for one of us to give them a solution to THEIR problem???

 

[Bob Denman]

3...
There's no doubt that it's going to take a multifaceted approcach to put a stop to this problem...
Yours is a part...:thumbup:
MagDave tinkered with heat shielding...:thumbup:
There have been ECMs getting re-flashed also! :thumbup:

The collective efforts will find an answer! :2thumbs:

Jer: "That said, a first class, high end, Touring Bike, should not present heat issues for the rider. If it does...then the manufacturer missed the mark."
Thrown a leg over a "Big-Twin" lately in traffic on a hot day... :shocked: nojoke
We're not alone... :yikes:

 

[SpyderRx]

No doubt, what you say has merrit, but think about it......... what would that really solve? :dontknow:

You'd be forcing ambient air into the engine compartment only when your moving at higher speeds.
I don't think most of us complain all that much about that issue in particular. (IMHO) The real problem seems to be when we're going slow or in stop & go traffic, & the heat builds up under the tupperware and when the radiator kicks on and causes the right foot to get torched The solution of the air scoop under the mirrors wouldn't really help much in these cases....... would it? :dontknow:
Heat rises, and those vents were placed there in an effort to give the heat another route of escape, instead of being trapped under the tupperware. Many of the posts I've read about the Vertika air-scoops that owners have them installed are not all that glowing of an endorsement and the results seem marginal at best, again at least from what I've read. I've yet to see anyone post that it relieved their problems with the heat.



Don't forget about FiberGlass & or Carbon Fiber (not that Carbon-fiber is cheap by any means) I do believe the parts that Vertika builds are actually made out of FiberGlass.

If this is all true, which I believe it is, then shouldn't we assume that the 2014 ST will still have the same issue since the only major change they made to deal with this is the side air scoops that will only work when traveling at higher speeds and not sitting still? Sounds like they didn't solve the problem with the ST unless I missing something.

 

[Yfactor]

If this is all true, which I believe it is, then shouldn't we assume that the 2014 ST will still have the same issue since the only major change they made to deal with this is the side air scoops that will only work when traveling at higher speeds and not sitting still? Sounds like they didn't solve the problem with the ST unless I missing something.

When sitting still they also reverse the fan to pull the heated air forward away from the rider.

 

[DrewNJ]

So, is it just a hot rider situation OR is it truly a motor running hot?


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[CyncySpyder]

If this is all true, which I believe it is, then shouldn't we ass ume that the 2014 ST will still have the same issue since the only major change they made to deal with this is the side air scoops that will only work when traveling at higher speeds and not sitting still? Sounds like they didn't solve the problem with the ST unless I missing something.

You know what they say about assuming....... right Your free to assume anything you'd like :cheers:

We don't have an ST, never been on one (tho Teddy has) and have no desire to do so, and I try not to write about things I do not know about Maybe someone else that has an ST or experience/knowledge in the subject might chime in to enlighten us all

 

[Dan McNally]

This question is going to sound like an ass, but I promise it is not meant that way....
What I'm curious about is why hasn't someone (or a group of you) taken it upon yourselves to make their own machine run right instead of waiting for BRP to take an interest in correcting?
I understand the "blah blah blah, I paid X amount of dollars, it should be right" type of thought, but personally, life is to short. I would want it to be right, even if it cost me a bit to make it right.... Also, you all are kidding yourselves if you think BRP is going to do anything significant retroactive on the 13's they've already sold. They'll change it up for 14'+

Many times, we the consumer, are better at making things BETTER than they came from the factory. MANY improvements that came from the factory started as aftermarket mods people came up with on their own.
Come on all, put your heads together and get it worked out and quit complaining that BRP isn't going to do it for you.....:banghead: JMHO.....

We have been trying to find a solution for a long time . . . nothing seems to work, yet . . .