"SPY PHOTO OF THINGS TO COME"

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

QUESTIONS

Haha. Good to see some people still have a good sense of humor AND an open mind.
What was funny is that when I first opened up the pic I thought it was my friends Spyder. He has the same colors and there were a handful of us running around early in the year with missing plastics as we fiddled around with different suspension setups.


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...Drew, I have an open mind. So I am very interested in learning why YOU think the engineers at BRP changed the frames of 2013 and 2014 models. Because it's your stated opinion that the shock angle on the original frame was BETTER. ? ? ?.........a concerned Spyderlover , Mike .............and Bob I've typed this in smaller print so you can read it without getting all upset

 

[Bob Denman]

Thanks Mike! It's perfect!! :2thumbs:

 

[DrewNJ]

...Drew, I have an open mind. So I am very interested in learning why YOU think the engineers at BRP changed the frames of 2013 and 2014 models. Because it's your stated opinion that the shock angle on the original frame was BETTER. ? ? ?.........a concerned Spyderlover , Mike .............and Bob I've typed this in smaller print so you can read it without getting all upset

Hey Mike,
While normally I would have no issues sharing what we have learned first hand while testing on our own machines, this time I'm going to pass. I really don't care to argue nor feel a need to convince you, and I certainly don't have anything to sell.
Do what works best for you and I'll do the same for me.


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[BLUEKNIGHT911]

BAD MOUTHING A VENDOR'S PRODUCT

Hey Mike,
While normally I would have no issues sharing what we have learned first hand while testing on our own machines, this time I'm going to pass. I really don't care to argue nor feel a need to convince you, and I certainly don't have anything to sell.
Do what works best for you and I'll do the same for me.


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Excuse me Drew, but you are the one Bad Mouthing a great product created by the BEST BRP Spyder dealer on the Planet!!!!!!!!!.....Who created his product using the idea's from the BRP engineers.........and YOU claim it's a bunch of " whooey ".........I REALLY think you owe eveyone here an EXPLANATION......about why BRP and Lenny are WRONG in their collective thinking........C'mon you got on your SOAPBOX so don't WIMP out now :agree:....................................Maybe " FLANKER " wants to chime in here also ? ? ?......:clap: :2excited: :roflblack:

 

[Bob Denman]

Flanker's fine; his presription meds were kicking in... :shocked:
I don't honestly think that he was "Bad Mouthing" anything... The part just wasn't giving him what he wanted; that's all. :shocked:

"What's funny is that after all the testing we did we ended up liking the "old" original position with an upgraded swaybar the best. Ended up being really a BIG waste of time...:roflblack: Oh-Well..."

The "BIG waste of time", was just a reference to the testing procedure; that's all!

 

[scott16119]

Excuse me Drew, but you are the one Bad Mouthing a great product created by the BEST BRP Spyder dealer on the Planet!!!!!!!!!.....Who created his product using the idea's from the BRP engineers.........and YOU claim it's a bunch of " whooey ".........I REALLY think you owe eveyone here an EXPLANATION......about why BRP and Lenny are WRONG in their collective thinking........C'mon you got on your SOAPBOX so don't WIMP out now :agree:....................................Maybe " FLANKER " wants to chime in here also ? ? ?......:clap: :2excited: :roflblack:

I went back to look one more time and still can't find the "Bad Mouthing" part you keep babbling about.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

DUH

I went back to look one more time and still can't find the "Bad Mouthing" part you keep babbling about.

Well Scott , if Drew claims that BRP engineers and Lenny at Pitbull are wrong about changing the angle of the front shocks ........what would you call it a " "RECOMMENDATION " .......:hun:...............It appears to me that Drew is saying DON'T BOTHER BUYING PITBULL'S shock re-locators ......and I'm asking him WHY ! ! ! I think about 300 Spyderlover's have bought them and loved them and I think Drew owes THEM and explanation........................Mike :thumbup:

 

[DrewNJ]

Whatever you say boss....haha.


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[scott16119]

Well Scott , if Drew claims that BRP engineers and Lenny at Pitbull are wrong about changing the angle of the front shocks ........what would you call it a " "RECOMMENDATION " .......:hun:...............It appears to me that Drew is saying DON'T BOTHER BUYING PITBULL'S shock re-locators ......and I'm asking him WHY ! ! ! I think about 300 Spyderlover's have bought them and loved them and I think Drew owes THEM and explanation........................Mike :thumbup:[/QUOTE
Well you are reading something between the lines I didn't see. He did his own experimenting with shock locations and says it seemed to work just as good in the stock position as any position he tried. Did he say he tried the exact location Len is using or BRP is using on the 2013's? I still don't see what you are crying about, maybe you are just extremely sensitive, but it's ok. I' won't hurt your feelings by commenting further on this.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

IF THE QUESTION WAS ANY SIMPLER

Well Scott , if Drew claims that BRP engineers and Lenny at Pitbull are wrong about changing the angle of the front shocks ........what would you call it a " "RECOMMENDATION " .......:hun:...............It appears to me that Drew is saying DON'T BOTHER BUYING PITBULL'S shock re-locators ......and I'm asking him WHY ! ! ! I think about 300 Spyderlover's have bought them and loved them and I think Drew owes THEM and explanation........................Mike :thumbup:[/QUOTE
Well you are reading something between the lines I didn't see. He did his own experimenting with shock locations and says it seemed to work just as good in the stock position as any position he tried. Did he say he tried the exact location Len is using or BRP is using on the 2013's? I still don't see what you are crying about, maybe you are just extremely sensitive, but it's ok. I' won't hurt your feelings by commenting further on this.

Scott ...(reading between the lines :hun ...Drew says changing the shock angle is useless....Brp engineers says it's right ......If this is beyond your thought process no one at Spyderlovers can help you out. .....I'm done here also :yes: :yes: :yes:

 

[Bob Denman]

(He NEVER said that...)

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

YOUR INFINTATE WISDOM

(He NEVER said that...)

:yikes: :bowdown: Thanks a bunch Bob, correction made :thumbup: :roflblack: :roflblack: :roflblack: :yes: :yes: :yes:....................and Bob are you planning to contact BRP to find out HOW you can change the frame on your NEW spyder to what Drew says it SHOULD be ...after all what do their ENGINEERS know about suspension DESIGN :gaah: :roflblack: :roflblack:

 

[Bob Denman]

I'm pretty sure that the frame will work just fine for me and my needs...
But if it doesn't :shocked:; I'll have to find some top shock mount re-re-locator brackets! :roflblack:

 

[MrLooney]

Top Shock Mounts

I'm pretty sure that the frame will work just fine for me and my needs...
But if it doesn't :shocked:; I'll have to find some top shock mount re-re-locator brackets! :roflblack:

BOB
Maybe you can search out the owner of this bike in the pic above and invest in what he / she has done for Shock Angle Adjusters not only on the top but note the bottom too there are brackets moving in the bottoms of the shocks. :yikes: Then you and the Misses would never have to worry about mushy rides again. :thumbup:

 

[Bob Denman]

"Mushy rides"??
You know my Missus??? :shocked: :roflblack:

 

[MrLooney]

MUSSES

"Mushy rides"??
You know my Missus??? :shocked: :roflblack:

She is a legend in her own time!! :2thumbs:

and your best choice :yes: :yes:

More the Cushion

More the Pushin :roflblack: :roflblack: :roflblack:

 

[Bob Denman]

:roflblack:
But I won't tellher that you said that... pps: :thumbup:

 

[bscrive]

:yikes: :bowdown: Thanks a bunch Bob, correction made :thumbup: :roflblack: :roflblack: :roflblack: :yes: :yes: :yes:....................and Bob are you planning to contact BRP to find out HOW you can change the frame on your NEW spyder to what Drew says it SHOULD be ...after all what do their ENGINEERS know about suspension DESIGN :gaah: :roflblack: :roflblack:

I do not understand your logic. If BRP engineers are so perfect why does BahaRon sell so many bars or why are so many Spyders out of alignment. Ordinary people can come up with great ideas and improvements. They don't need to be an engineer. BRP engineers do not know everything, if they did the 2013's would never of had a heat problem. All Drew said is that it didn't work for him.

Brian

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

LOGIC ?????

I do not understand your logic. If BRP engineers are so perfect why does BahaRon sell so many bars or why are so many Spyders out of alignment. Ordinary people can come up with great ideas and improvements. They don't need to be an engineer. BRP engineers do not know everything, if they did the 2013's would never of had a heat problem. All Drew said is that it didn't work for him.

Brian

Brian, welcome to the discussion. Who's LOGIC are you referring to ? ? ?.....and have you been following this thread from the beginning and reading ALL the posts ? ? ?........I don't remember seeing .......BRP, Engineers, & Perfect written together or in conjunction with each other ...........Also DREW said a DARN bit more than what you are saying was his remarks ................................in all friendliness ...Mike :thumbup:.................................................PS if you want to have an in-depth discussion about front suspensions you can PM me.

 

[Bob Denman]

:shocked: I think that we are all in the hole already... let's stop digging...