Had My Recall Done Today

[OldCowboy]

The master cylinder and evap canister were both OK. No signs of melting. I wish BRP could determine why some :spyder2: have this problem and others don't.

On a side note, some of you may have read my thread the other day, "Damned Vibrations." So I asked the tech to see if he could figure out what was causing it. He came back and said it was the Baker Belt Stabilizer I'd installed. I told him that was impossible because I installed it in an attempt to stop the vibrations which had been there since the 600 mile service. He said it couldn't be the belt, because he checked the tension on the belt and it was at 450, just where it was supposed to be. I pointed out that for the 2013s, the belt tension was supposed to be 1050 Newtons. He said, "No, they lowered it to 450. In fact they even made us put stickers on the tension meter so we wouldn't forget." I asked to see the sticker and he handed me the meter. Sure enough, there was a sticker on it. The sticker said for 2008 -2012 Spyders, the belt tension should be 450N. For MY 2013 and later it should be 1050 N. I hate it when I know more about my :spyder2: than the "professional." :gaah: Anyway, my :spyder2: is now running smoothly.

 

[SpyderAnn01]

Wow.

 

[Orange monster]

So did the belt tensioner help reduce the vibration at all? We rode in the mountains this weekend and the belt vibration going up mountains under heavy throttle was crazy! I have to get something done to help the vibration!

You know this is something that really confuses me. The older Spyders had a high belt tension and then they reduced the tension to help prolong parts that were failing due to the high tension. Now they have increased the tension again but it looks like the bearings are the same part number. What has changed here I wonder?

 

[jcthorne]

The higher tension is to compensate for the higher temperatures:doorag:.......

 

[OldCowboy]

So did the belt tensioner help reduce the vibration at all? We rode in the mountains this weekend and the belt vibration going up mountains under heavy throttle was crazy! I have to get something done to help the vibration!

You know this is something that really confuses me. The older Spyders had a high belt tension and then they reduced the tension to help prolong parts that were failing due to the high tension. Now they have increased the tension again but it looks like the bearings are the same part number. What has changed here I wonder?

The belt tensioner/stabilizer did not help reduce the vibration when the belt was "loose". Once the belt was reset to the proper tension, the minor vibrations were still there. The remaining vibrations are much less than I had on my touring Harley-Davidson, but are not completely eliminated. That being said, I think it is unrealistic to expect a two cylinder V-Twin to have the same smoothness of a 6 cylinder Honda.

In terms of the bearings and the higher tension, I can only imagine that while the part numbers are the same, the bearing itself is made of tougher material. This is sometimes referred to as 'slipstreaming'; when new and improved products are introduced into the supply chain with the same part number. The only way to tell the difference is by the lot number or manufacturing date.

 

[Orange monster]

I'll give my dealer a call in the morning and see if they will agree to increase the tension to the new higher value on my bike. I know when I had the 600 mile service they did not set the tension to the 1050n, they told,me they set it at 650n. I cal tell you that going up the mountains hard on the throttle at 5500 rpm the bike felt like it was about to come apart until you got up to 6500 rpms. Made me want to run the entire time in the 6500 to 7500 range just to avoid the vibrations...lol

 

[Daisyjoe]

The master cylinder and evap canister were both OK. No signs of melting. I wish BRP could determine why some :spyder2: have this problem and others don't.

On a side note, some of you may have read my thread the other day, "Damned Vibrations." So I asked the tech to see if he could figure out what was causing it. He came back and said it was the Baker Belt Stabilizer I'd installed. I told him that was impossible because I installed it in an attempt to stop the vibrations which had been there since the 600 mile service. He said it couldn't be the belt, because he checked the tension on the belt and it was at 450, just where it was supposed to be. I pointed out that for the 2013s, the belt tension was supposed to be 1050 Newtons. He said, "No, they lowered it to 450. In fact they even made us put stickers on the tension meter so we wouldn't forget." I asked to see the sticker and he handed me the meter. Sure enough, there was a sticker on it. The sticker said for 2008 -2012 Spyders, the belt tension should be 450N. For MY 2013 and later it should be 1050 N. I hate it when I know more about my :spyder2: than the "professional." :gaah: Anyway, my :spyder2: is now running smoothly.

How many miles do you have on your bike?

 

[Chupaca]

Double good news..!!

good to hear your recall was done and you were not in danger. Also great to hear you solved the vibration problem. Enjoy your ryde...hyea:

 

[flamingobabe]

Glad all good for you.......I was told my belt was off some 700newtons....we'll see the difference when we pick it up

 

[OldCowboy]

How many miles do you have on your bike?

About 1850. Most of my rydes are of about 50 mile length, although I have had a couple of 125+ mile rydes. The key to who gets a melted master cylinder and vapor canister pre-recall may be who's doing longer rydes.

 

[OldCowboy]

Glad all good for you.......I was told my belt was off some 700 newtons....we'll see the difference when we pick it up

Does that mean your belt was at 350 N or was it at 1750 N :yikes:. If the latter, I'd make sure that was documented on the repair ticket in case you have a bearing failure in the future.

 

[flamingobabe]

Does that mean your belt was at 350 N or was it at 1750 N :yikes:. If the latter, I'd make sure that was documented on the repair ticket in case you have a bearing failure in the future.

Thanks...I'll be sure and have the dealer note the numbers

 

[Orange monster]

I called Louis Power Sports this morning and they agreed to increase the belt tension for me. They said they like to start on the low side and if the customer doesn't notice the vibrations to much leave it there. However for those that ride up in the mountains and such they will increase to the suggested 1050n. If it dosent rain saturday morning I'm going to go by there and they said it would not take more than 30 minutes. If it does rain I'm going to wait until next saturday as I don't care to ride in the rain if I'm not on a trip or absolutly necessary...lol

 

[Dan McNally]

. I pointed out that for the 2013s, the belt tension was supposed to be 1050 Newtons. He said, "No, they lowered it to 450. In fact they even made us put stickers on the tension meter so we wouldn't forget." I asked to see the sticker and he handed me the meter. Sure enough, there was a sticker on it. The sticker said for 2008 -2012 Spyders, the belt tension should be 450N. For MY 2013 and later it should be 1050 N. I hate it when I know more about my :spyder2: than the "professional." :gaah: Anyway, my :spyder2: is now running smoothly.

Perhaps reading comprehension should be a requirement to be a Spyder mechanic . . . :banghead:

 

[billybovine]

Reading Course

Perhaps reading comprehension should be a requirement to be a Spyder mechanic . . . :banghead:

 

[Dan McNally]

:roflblack::roflblack: