crossbowme
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Still do this on sailboats to see if you're sails are trimmed properly. Also, small planes still do it to make sure they're trimmed.:yes:
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Boiling fuel, hot legs & feet, melted boot glue & passive limp home modes
- Thread starter Jeriatric
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Still do this on sailboats to see if you're sails are trimmed properly. Also, small planes still do it to make sure they're trimmed.:yes:
SpyderAnn01
Active member
For me it sizzled and I tightened the cap back up and slowly opened it but when I put cold gas in it splashed back out at me. I think this may have happened to FlamingoBabe also. I can't say if my gas cap is really hot and I think I'm one of those that keeps my gloves on when I open it.
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flamingobabe
...in the pink (Girls On Spyders)
I wear half gloves and the plastic cap is hot...I release the cap , just a little...wait...spissssssssssss....when finished I remove the cap ...get card and wait....put gas in....it will only take a little...remove...put more gas in...back and forth until it will take the gas...came back on me once...so I take my time....Mark is going to wrap pipes and tank this weekend...we'll see....but melting brake cylinder...scares me..
billybovine
Active member
Did an experiment today.
Last week I added heat reflecting insulation to the back of the tupperware near my left leg to reduce the heat. There was some improvement but not much. I was then thinking I will have to wrap the pipes next. Yesterday during my after supper ride I was feeling around for all the areas that are hot and realised how much hot air was blowing out from under the seat and on the left side it was extremely hot air. So today I took a look and found that there is big opening under the tupperware leading under the seat. I do not remember that much space on my 09 GS.
I then stuffed shop towels under the tupperware into the opening to block the airflow.
The reduction of heat and the improvement in rider comfort was very big. I then removed the towels and went for another ride. That confirmed that plugging that opening was a big improvement. I am still not sure if it will be enough for me but I have decided that it will be my next project.
I would not recommend anyone stuffing towels in their Spyder and thinking it's fixed. Spill some gas on the towel and you have the making of a molotov cocktail.
Was thinking of carving some closed cell foam to make an air block for that area. Any better ideas folks?
Last week I added heat reflecting insulation to the back of the tupperware near my left leg to reduce the heat. There was some improvement but not much. I was then thinking I will have to wrap the pipes next. Yesterday during my after supper ride I was feeling around for all the areas that are hot and realised how much hot air was blowing out from under the seat and on the left side it was extremely hot air. So today I took a look and found that there is big opening under the tupperware leading under the seat. I do not remember that much space on my 09 GS.
I then stuffed shop towels under the tupperware into the opening to block the airflow.
The reduction of heat and the improvement in rider comfort was very big. I then removed the towels and went for another ride. That confirmed that plugging that opening was a big improvement. I am still not sure if it will be enough for me but I have decided that it will be my next project.
I would not recommend anyone stuffing towels in their Spyder and thinking it's fixed. Spill some gas on the towel and you have the making of a molotov cocktail.
Was thinking of carving some closed cell foam to make an air block for that area. Any better ideas folks?
shelbydave
New member
Hmmm.... That may explain the gas cap being hot too...???
Bob Denman
New member
I don't see why a good-sized roll of Duct-Tape couldn't be put to good use in that void...
It's easily replaceable and reversible! :thumbup:
It's easily replaceable and reversible! :thumbup:
Jeriatric
Thinks out loud
Brake Reservoirs melting?
Hey BB,
While you have camera in hand. Will you take some pics of the brake reservoir area and how their location could be being effected by excessive heat?
I'm with ShelbyDave in that you have probably found the hot gas cap cause.
Nice work! :thumbup:
Hey BB,
While you have camera in hand. Will you take some pics of the brake reservoir area and how their location could be being effected by excessive heat?
I'm with ShelbyDave in that you have probably found the hot gas cap cause.
Nice work! :thumbup:
billybovine
Active member
Bob Denman
New member
I'd have paid a hundred-bucks to watch her get out of that! :yikes:
(It just HAD to grab something tender; somewhere!)
(It just HAD to grab something tender; somewhere!)
billybovine
Active member
I was under there last week and it is not hard to get to on a normal ST. It's under the right rear side panel under the seat. Because mine is a Limited, because of the saddle bags it's a lot more work to get at. So no pictures. There are no heat sources really close to the reservoir the closest is the muffler, about 18 inches away. I find it hard to believe the reservoir could melt, but I have been wrong before. If there was enough heat to melt the reservoir the saddle bags will melt first.
Jeriatric
Thinks out loud
Got it. Thanks.
Just curious, cause people are chiming in with melted brake reservoirs.
stevedfive
New member
Heat has to escape someplace. As we wrap, block, and shield, we create a lot of heat over a fuel and ignition source. As much as we want to block the heat from our legs, butt, and etc., we should find a way to ventilate this heat down or along and out. That should help with both problems. JMO.
Jeriatric
Thinks out loud
Agree.
Tho, the problem of air flow through the engine cowling should not be subjugated to us. If BRP is paying attention(and they are). They know heat management under the tupperware has been a problem from day one, and they should FINALLY address it.
Bob Denman
New member
Jer,
:agree: with you... But don't you think that the collective efforts of ticked-off "Spyderers" could find the answer quicker than an engineer or technician?
:agree: with you... But don't you think that the collective efforts of ticked-off "Spyderers" could find the answer quicker than an engineer or technician?
Jeriatric
Thinks out loud
If
If, it was an exposed exhaust pipe or something similar in nature I would be onboard with US collectively coming up with a solution. :thumbup:
However, there is so much that comes into play when trying to manage heat under the tupperware -cause and effect of any changes - we may simply cause new problems. In which case we are back to chasing a ghost. And, if the problem was limited to a few. I would not feel so strongly about it, but it's not. jmo - and it may or may not be shared by others.
If, it was an exposed exhaust pipe or something similar in nature I would be onboard with US collectively coming up with a solution. :thumbup:
However, there is so much that comes into play when trying to manage heat under the tupperware -cause and effect of any changes - we may simply cause new problems. In which case we are back to chasing a ghost. And, if the problem was limited to a few. I would not feel so strongly about it, but it's not. jmo - and it may or may not be shared by others.
Ga Blue Knight
New member
BRP did fix the "/bad" heat problems in the 2010-2012 RT-S. The solution was the 2013 "terrible" heat problems. Many of the issues with thenSpyder were solved by members of this forum and then later adopted by BRP. Things like adjustable handlebars to change riding position, more comfortable seating, a RS that is like an RT ie the ST. We shouldn't have to wait for BRP but start on our own.
shelbydave
New member
If you were to go through all the posts on here about heat, I'm not sure if a company monitoring this would come to the conclusion that there is a heat problem. Before I get flamed, I'll explain.
There are a few people who feel the heat, and post up concerns. There are at least that many people who post that they do not notice it.
Given that ratio, if you were watching, would you believe there is a problem? People have stated that heat is an issue with ANY motorcycle, and I have to take their word for that, since it has was a long time since I last rode before the Spyder. In a discussion last night, I was told that some Harleys will even shut down one cylinder if sitting, just to keep the heat tolerable until forward motion can move the hot air away again.
So, given that data... Heat is ALWAYS an issue on a motorcycle, At least as many people do NOT consider it a problem as do on here, where would they take their stand?
Some of the things said lately about the 2013's should attract attention though... In at least things should be checked...
Fuel shouldn't boil as a rule.... It will on occasion, but not on a regular basis.
The gas cap should not be too hot to touch. In looking at my 2012, I can see where some heat may get there, but not THAT much.
Master Cylinder tanks shouldn't crack.. at least not from excessive heat, and if it does, there shouldn't be anything UNDER it that could be considered an ignition / heat source.
So, I wouldn't be surprised if the general heat issue doesn't get attention, but the 3 items above require immediate attention, regardless of how many times, or people have experienced it. Some things - once is too much...
There are a few people who feel the heat, and post up concerns. There are at least that many people who post that they do not notice it.
Given that ratio, if you were watching, would you believe there is a problem? People have stated that heat is an issue with ANY motorcycle, and I have to take their word for that, since it has was a long time since I last rode before the Spyder. In a discussion last night, I was told that some Harleys will even shut down one cylinder if sitting, just to keep the heat tolerable until forward motion can move the hot air away again.
So, given that data... Heat is ALWAYS an issue on a motorcycle, At least as many people do NOT consider it a problem as do on here, where would they take their stand?
Some of the things said lately about the 2013's should attract attention though... In at least things should be checked...
Fuel shouldn't boil as a rule.... It will on occasion, but not on a regular basis.
The gas cap should not be too hot to touch. In looking at my 2012, I can see where some heat may get there, but not THAT much.
Master Cylinder tanks shouldn't crack.. at least not from excessive heat, and if it does, there shouldn't be anything UNDER it that could be considered an ignition / heat source.
So, I wouldn't be surprised if the general heat issue doesn't get attention, but the 3 items above require immediate attention, regardless of how many times, or people have experienced it. Some things - once is too much...
Bob Denman
New member
:agree: I have never had a "Hot-Foot" issue with my RT, but I'm also enjoying the results of advanced diabetic neuropathy and would barely notice if my leg was on fire... 
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But when we start hearing of melted master cylinder pieces, MORE boiling fuel and hot fuel caps; there's something going on here that should get attended to...
pps:But when we start hearing of melted master cylinder pieces, MORE boiling fuel and hot fuel caps; there's something going on here that should get attended to...
Ga Blue Knight
New member
:agree: I also don't see to mind the heat as much as some but the three 2013 RT issues are just not someone's imagination!
