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STS shock question
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Bob Denman
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I believe the they share front suspension systems; my guess would be, "Yes!" :thumbup:
But some more research is definitely in order...:shocked:
But some more research is definitely in order...:shocked:
Ga Blue Knight
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You really have to wonder why the STS would not come with shock preload adjusters in light of all of the alignment issues. There's got to be some kind of back story here I'd bet!
capt.jim
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I have the alignment problem with mine and the factory ST shocks made the problem all the worse. While trying to correct the side to side wandering it would create such a sway to where I would have to get on the brakes. The 2010 RT front shocks made a LOT of difference, it still wanders but doesn't wallow around while trying to keep a straight line. I think the Fox shocks would be great. The rear shock seems as firm as the RT front shocks are, too bad there is no adjustment. My dealer still hasn't heard a thing about the alignment issue.
kubie
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flamingobabe
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what is the difference between Fox and Elkas? I have not got my ST-Limited yet..should be in a week or so...do I need to just add new shocks before I leave Pitbull
sergentwoody
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http://store.spyder.brp.com/product/631121/219400409/_/FOX_Adjustable_Shock_Kit_with_Sway_Bar
Fully adjustable gas-charged front FOX Podium 5.7" (145 mm) front racing shocks
Kit complete with a high performance sway bar
Standard on Spyder 2013 RS-S packag
Fully adjustable gas-charged front FOX Podium 5.7" (145 mm) front racing shocks
Kit complete with a high performance sway bar
Standard on Spyder 2013 RS-S packag
capt.jim
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I would just ride it for a while first and see how you like the factory shocks, I'm sure those guys have checked the alignment already. The fox shocks and the sway bar package are a really good deal it seems, especially coming from BRP.
ThreeWheels
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Didn't you guys all pull some long rides testing the pre-production models ?
Bad alignments and mushy front ends would have been obvious.
I wonder what changes were made to the design that cause these new issues.
The alignment can be explained by a poor set up on the factory floor, but that should be easily fixed in the shop.
The mushiness..........I'm not sure what would cause that unless the preproduction bikes had a different set up.
Just wondering.................
flamingobabe
...in the pink (Girls On Spyders)
The ST's that we rode were not production bikes...
Bob Denman
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:agree: I was told that it was actually a hand-built prototype worth perhaps a quarter of a million dollars...
spyderriderman
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Just to make it perfectly clear, old shocks of ANY previous year Spyder of any model designation WILL NOT work correctly on a new ST or RT. They may bolt up but the length will be wrong. The new suspension design is very sensitive to loaded ride height, your alignment will be wrong and the bike will not handle correctly. I got this directly from 3 sources, 2 at BRP and one who is quite well respected here but will remain nameless.
The new suspension sets toe in at loaded ride height, not static ride height. The new alignment procedures include the use of a package being sent to all dealers that replaces the shocks with struts putting the Spyder at the designed ride height for alignment. If the spyder is riding lower than that height you will get more toe out and it will wander at speed. If it's riding higher you will get more toe in which will cause understeer or a front end push in the corners.
Like many have said here, ride it for a while before you make any rash decisions on replacing parts. I test rode a couple ST's this last week and neither felt mushy or wandered. In fact, compared to my wife's GS which has the aftermarket sway bar and the shocks cranked all the way up it felt remarkably more stable at highway speeds and cornered flatter than her modified GS. I can only imagine the $399 Fox shock and sway bar upgrade will make it better. Odds are THAT package will be the ticket for those hotshoes out there wanting a little something extra on their ST's.
The new suspension sets toe in at loaded ride height, not static ride height. The new alignment procedures include the use of a package being sent to all dealers that replaces the shocks with struts putting the Spyder at the designed ride height for alignment. If the spyder is riding lower than that height you will get more toe out and it will wander at speed. If it's riding higher you will get more toe in which will cause understeer or a front end push in the corners.
Like many have said here, ride it for a while before you make any rash decisions on replacing parts. I test rode a couple ST's this last week and neither felt mushy or wandered. In fact, compared to my wife's GS which has the aftermarket sway bar and the shocks cranked all the way up it felt remarkably more stable at highway speeds and cornered flatter than her modified GS. I can only imagine the $399 Fox shock and sway bar upgrade will make it better. Odds are THAT package will be the ticket for those hotshoes out there wanting a little something extra on their ST's.
Bob Denman
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Those Fox shocks should then bolt up and work okay, as long as your preload settings don't monkey-up the ride height...
No wonder they took that adjustment out of the equation! :gaah:
Ride it; and wait for Ron to come up with the proper bar for it! :thumbup:
No wonder they took that adjustment out of the equation! :gaah:
Ride it; and wait for Ron to come up with the proper bar for it! :thumbup:
Somehow the thread got off track. The OP asked about the 2013 RS Fox shocks and if you look at the new parts book you'll see the ONLY Fox shocks specified for the RS are also specified for the ST and they now come with an updated sway bar. For $399 MSRP this sounds like a killer deal. No offense to Ron but the kit includes the "proper" bar for the package.
Part number 219400409 is the correct FOX part for BOTH the RS and ST. These parts come standard on the RS-S. http://store.spyder.brp.com/product/631121/219400409/_/FOX_Adjustable_Shock_Kit_with_Sway_Bar
Bob Denman
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Oh; I agree with you; just be aware of the ride height issues that could crop up! :thumbup:
ElZorroRides
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Just adding that while at the BRP venue in Daytona on Friday, one of the reps said exactly what was said here. Those wishing to make these changes should only do so with the 2013 package. Having just picked up my ST and riding it 300+ miles that day, I found it tracked great with little sway and only due to the high winds at times and not due to any suspension issue that I noticed. The dealer had already corrected the ball joints and alignment issue before I ever took delivery.
weapon
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Ok.
Here's my counterpoint and why I asked about the shocks.
If you have two people. One is 250 lbs. and another is 100 lbs. they will not have the same ride height. So they will experience different toe settings.
Is this not what the adjusters are really for?
If you know what the desired ride height was you could set it and be in uptimum performance.
Here's my counterpoint and why I asked about the shocks.
If you have two people. One is 250 lbs. and another is 100 lbs. they will not have the same ride height. So they will experience different toe settings.
Is this not what the adjusters are really for?
If you know what the desired ride height was you could set it and be in uptimum performance.
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