If a rocket falls and no one is around to hear it...

[Spyder777]

[h=2]Rockets Fall But Where’s the Coverage?[/h]SEPTEMBER 10, 2012 12:28BY SIMON PLOSKER
“If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?”This philosophical question could well be applied to the media’s treatment, or lack of, concerning the latest barrage of rockets to be launched from Gaza at Israeli population centers.Over the weekend:

• Three Grad rockets exploded in southern Israel Saturday night and early Sunday morning, prompting Beersheba and Ashdod mayors to shut down the local school systems on Sunday.
• Three people were hurt while running for shelter and four were treated for shock.
• A Netivot home sustained extensive damage but, remarkably, a resident, alone at home at the time of the hit, was left unhurt.

But unless you are Israeli or follow the Israeli press, the likelihood that you have heard of the weekend’s events is close to nil. Despite the international media being around to hear the tree falling in the forest, it still made no sound as none of the major media outlets bothered to report on it.Not the New York Times, which preferred to focus in great detail on Gaza’s poverty, omitting any mention of rocket fire. Not The Times of London, which insultingly published a trivial and irrelevant story on Israeli ultra-orthodox women adopting Kate Middleton, the Duchess of Cambridge, as a fashion icon.And not the BBC, CNN, LA Times or Washington Post.Also unsurprising that smaller news outlets failed to note the weekend’s events considering that the Associated Press wire service that feeds stories to a huge number of other media, gave the story a mere five sentences.You can bet, however, that any major Israeli military operation in defense of its citizens to put an end to rocket fire, that results in loss of Palestinian life, terrorists or otherwise, will make headlines.Why is this important? In the eyes of the general public, Israel is perceived as the aggressor, striking out at Palestinians in Gaza with little provocation. Wouldn’t they see it differently if the media bothered to report on the fact that so far in 2012, terrorists in Gaza have fired at least 557 explosives at Israeli civilian targets?Indeed, since 2001, Hamas and the other terrorist groups have fired over 13,000 rockets and mortars at Israeli towns and cities, killing dozens of civilians.Just because this has been going on for far too long, it does not absolve the media from acknowledging that it is happening. Because without the coverage, the context behind the next story vanishes.

 

[boborgera]

Just wondering ;
If Rockets were coming over the border from Mexico into Texas, Just how long would you think we will put up with it ??

Not long i bet.!!

 

[ARtraveler]

Anchorage is right on the range of North Korea and its missles, and it has been mentioned that we would get it, if they decided to get an itchy trigger finger.

 

[Firefly]

Well.. it takes two to tango....and both sides of this issue are acting like rogue terrorist nations who really don't want peace.

We really need to learn to mind our own business more pertaining to the Middle East.......everyone we assist eventually turns against us.. and Israel is no different......yet we side with them and defend them no matter what.....

I say let them just have at it without our help or intervention and we'll deal with whoever is left..... pretty sure Israel can fend for herself at this point....

 

[FrankPa]

My take on the situation..

This is not political, but a statement of self-preservation...

I believe that before summer begins again, Israel will determine that Iran is about to yield a credible atomic weapon and will proactively remove that country from the face of the earth.

It will create fallout both figuratively and actually, but they will not wait until a nuclear weapon is detonated in downtown Tel Aviv.

The President has declined to meet with Netanyahu during his upcoming trip to the UN, so unless there is a change of regime here, Israel does not feel they will be alienating the US any more than at present.

 

[Spyder777]

Ignorance

Firefly,

Since you clearly know absolutely nothing about the Middle East, Israel, or the barbaric way in which the Palastine Authority treats it's own people.

And when you don't know anything about a specific topic, you are better off leaving your mouth closed, than opening it just to sound like an IDIOT.

I would suggest visiting the middle east if you want to give an opinion on the matter. Otherwise, keep your mouth shut and watch how you talk about my family.

When has Israel ever turned against the USA???

 

[Spyder777]

Not everything is politics

This has nothing to do with politics. Our brothers and Sisters in Israel are being viciously attacked on a daily basis by radical fanatic Islamists and many people do not know this is happening because of the lack of media coverage. I was simply bringing these facts to everybody's attention.

Not everything is Political. You can't just stick your fingers in your ears and go Lalala and pretend like it is not happening.

 

[Firefly]

Firefly,

Since you clearly know absolutely nothing about the Middle East, Israel, or the barbaric way in which the Palastine Authority treats it's own people.

And when you don't know anything about a specific topic, you are better off leaving your mouth closed, than opening it just to sound like an IDIOT.

I would suggest visiting the middle east if you want to give an opinion on the matter. Otherwise, keep your mouth shut and watch how you talk about my family.

When has Israel ever turned against the USA???

My opinion on this certainly does differ from yours, but last time I checked... I am welcome to my opinion just as much as you are yours.

But thanks for your classy rebuttal......

 

[MidLifeCrisis]

Firefly,

Since you clearly know absolutely nothing about the Middle East, Israel, or the barbaric way in which the Palastine Authority treats it's own people.

And when you don't know anything about a specific topic, you are better off leaving your mouth closed, than opening it just to sound like an IDIOT.

I would suggest visiting the middle east if you want to give an opinion on the matter. Otherwise, keep your mouth shut and watch how you talk about my family.

When has Israel ever turned against the USA???

I tried answering this thread numerous times throughout the day and just couldn't come up with anything that wouldn't get me banned from this site, so I stewed in silence. Since you said it the way I was trying to avoid, I will add, I grew up in the middle east and listened to radicals spew their venom against Israel, US, and Britain most of my life and somehow miraculously saw right through it. Israel a terrorist nation? Hardly. If you disarm Israel the nations around them will immediately destroy them. It's their beliefs that makes them hate Israel and the west and not what the media tries to preach and blame us for. I am yet to meet someone who even remotely knows what the crusades even were and that's the middle East's biggest argument against the "infidel".

Yes, we are all entitled to our own opinions and then there are the facts... The real facts only those who lived in the middle east and didn't get tainted by the hate or the few well studied outsiders would know. Sorry, but this one hits way too close to home and regardless of who attacks whom first and whether we (the US) stick our noses in it or not, which is very unlikely, my family members will get hurt or destroyed, and no, I'm not from Israel.

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[Firefly]

I tried answering this thread numerous times throughout the day and just couldn't come up with anything that wouldn't get me banned from this site, so I stewed in silence. Since you said it the way I was trying to avoid, I will add, I grew up in the middle east and listened to radicals spew their venom against Israel, US, and Britain most of my life and somehow miraculously saw right through it. Israel a terrorist nation? Hardly. If you disarm Israel the nations around them will immediately destroy them. It's their beliefs that makes them hate Israel and the west and not what the media tries to preach and blame us for. I am yet to meet someone who even remotely knows what the crusades even were and that's the middle East's biggest argument against the "infidel".

Yes, we are all entitled to our own opinions and then there are the facts... The real facts only those who lived in the middle east and didn't get tainted by the hate or the few well studied outsiders would know. Sorry, but this one hits way too close to home and regardless of who attacks whom first and whether we (the US) stick our noses in it or not, which is very unlikely, my family members will get hurt or destroyed, and no, I'm not from Israel.

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Palestine certainly is wrong in the way they are handling things and Hamas should take the higher road and use diplomatic channels to get what is rightfully theirs.....especially since they would stand no chance against Israel in a war, but Israel needs to stop their occupation and control of Gaza. Period!

I don't know about you, but if someone came into my neighborhood, told me to leave my house, or 'allowed' me to stay but controlled whether I could get food, water, etc. and searched my home and tormented my family.....I'd fight back too.

BOTH sides are equally wrong in their actions and I'm sick of us providing aid to anyone over there....especially when we've basically ignored far worse atrocities in parts of the world.

And yes....I agree this topic is political and never should have been started....


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[Ga Blue Knight]

Well.. it takes two to tango....and both sides of this issue are acting like rogue terrorist nations who really don't want peace.

Well what if the girl doesn't want to dance?

 

[Bob Denman]

Has anybody mentioned the fact that our Ambassador to Libya was killed last evening and our Embassey burned??? :shocked: :gaah:

 

[btcherm]

If a rocket falls and no one is around to hear

the last time I check this was a free country with free speach and every one is entitled to their own opinion
even firefly....mabe we all dont agree with his opinion but that what some of us fought and died for,......

 

[Bob Denman]

:agree: Yup! :thumbup:
Fly, you can keep on being wrong about all of this; we've got your back! :2thumbs: :roflblack::roflblack: :roflblack: :joke:

 

[Spyder777]

Your own opinions

Yes, you're entitled to your own set of opininions, but NOT to your own set of Facts.

Firefly likes to make things up based on what he has read or heard from a bias source and tell us all that these lies are facts and he is entitled to his own set of opinions.

Your opinion that we should not give aid to Israel is valid.

But to lie and say that Israel is occupying Gaza or blocking food and water, when Israel are the only ones supplying them with food, water, medicine, school books, clothes, and the PA teaches the children that they should blow themselves up in coffee shops.

THERE IS NOTHING AND WILL NEVER BE ANYTHING THAT ONE NATION OF PEOPLE CAN DO TO ANOTHER THAT WILL JUSTIFY BLOWING YOURSELF UP AMONGST UNARMED, INNOCENT CIVILANS. THERE IS NO ACT THAT JUSTIFIES MURDERING WOMEN AND CHILDREN ON PURPOSE.

 

[boborgera]

the last time I check this was a free country with free speach and every one is entitled to their own opinion
even firefly....mabe we all dont agree with his opinion but that what some of us fought and died for,......View attachment 53169

I Agree, I gave some but luckily not all, 66/67.

 

[MidLifeCrisis]

My only beef with some on this forum is that there are very neutral conversations taking place and in many ways informative, interesting and sometimes even incorrect. They are rarely political or personal at first, until these individuals drop a granade, then are subsequently disagreed with and or attacked followed by the granade thrower claiming things are too political. you know who you are and take a look at your posts. The conversations almost always go south after you start in with your polarizing comments.

I'm all for following the rules and love learning and reading the off topic posts forum. However, I don't think I can get away with half of what some of our otherwise highly informative Spyder Super Stars can get away with and not get booted from the forum.

 

[Bob Denman]

Conversations should always remain polite... we don't like name-calling, mud-slinging, or punch-throwing... :roflblack:
Differences of opinion are what keeps things interesting; it just would be nice if folks would use a bit more tact at times... :shocked:
There aren't any superstars in here... We're all subject to the rules that Lamont has in play... I've been dinged for stupid things that I've said... pps:

 

[Rayelljay]

.......THERE IS NO ACT THAT JUSTIFIES MURDERING WOMEN AND CHILDREN ON PURPOSE.

I'm not going to comment here but please try saying this to the residents of Cologne, Dresden, Hamburg, Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki.....

 

[MidLifeCrisis]

I've been dinged for stupid things that I've said... pps:

I would ding you just for the number of daily posts. You are the posting king:bowdown: How about giving some of the rest of us a chance to catch up?:roflblack: