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First impressions

donec

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Well I took my Spyder for it's first outing today. I remember when I got my Burgman 400 I had people sometimes ask about riding a scooter, but nothing like on the Spyder. I had 3 people stop at stop signs and ask about and 2 just gawk at it. Anyway I went on some back country roads to avoid traffic as much as possible. I found that no one is kidding when they say it is different.

I think for people that have never been on 2 wheels it will be easier as the most common effect they will have to deal with is the feelings they will experience when handling a curve and the feeling of shifting. On a curve you really must consciously feel the control of the handlebars and the road. In a car you turn the wheel and the car goes but most cars you don't get the feel of the turn. On a Spyder you feel resistance in the handlebars and you feel the curve's angle and sharpness along with the slant of the road.


On 2 wheels you don't feel the curve in the handlebars as a lot of the control is by leaning. You don't feel the angle of the curve as you often just cut through it from one side of the lane to the other. You don't feel the slant of the road as you only feel the amount of lean.


Another thing that you feel more on a Spyder is the unevenness of the road. I mean when you go over areas of the road where a section has sunk or risen in a car you feel both wheels shake the car a little right and left but because you are in a cage you don't feel the full effect. On 2 wheels you don't feel the side ways movement at all. Now on a Spyder you feel one wheel go down or go up as the case may be and you feel your body try to shift from one side to another (sometimes quite a lot), you feel the rear wheel try and lean as it rides on the slanted portion of the road between the 2 different levels of road. All during this you have to control the handlebars as the wheels try and take the path of least resistance and not just keep in the direction you are going. If you work hard at control you probably will over correct and feel that too.


Please note I did not say it was bad just different and at first can be a real workout but IT IS FUN fun fun


Shifting with the SE5 is different than shifting in a vehicle that has a clutch. With a clutch you slip the clutch as you change gears creating a smooth shift, but with the SE5 you do not control the clutch you just hit the paddle to shift and at first shifting will be abrupt but by finessing the throttle it seem you may be able to smooth that a little but not like having control of the clutch.


2 wheel riders remember brake with the foot not the hands. Since you are accustom to using your hands you really need to practice using your foot a lot as the quick response when needed will be to use your hands and that slows your reaction time. I felt it when approaching a curve and miss gauged the amount of curve without lean and needed to slow down quickly (not much Spyder experience on my part yet).
 
Good first impressions. You'll find depending the situation, if you shift the SE at 35k and above it also makes for a smoother shift. Dale
 
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:welcome: and :congrats: on the new ryde. Good post about first impressions. You will find that as you get a few more miles on it everything will just fall into place and everything will become natural.
 
Took me about a 1000 miles to shake off 40+ years of two wheeling. The first 500 miles you will second guess everything and over Analyze everything you and the bike is doing. The best advise I was given was to loosen up on the handlebars and relax. You will be suprised how "little" body leaning you will actually end up doing during normal riding at normal speeds (note, normal speeds) . I have been across the country and back and just finished riding the Blue Ridge Parkway from Cherokee N.C. to Waynesboro Va. and you will learn that the spyder is a more physical demanding experience in the twisties. Your shoulders and forearms will get in shape if you run curvey roads on a regular basis, this is a good thing. I like being more involved in the riding experience on the Spyder as opposed to a two wheeler. I look forward to every ride. This machine grows on you.

Stan
 
As Stan suggested, just loosen up and relax. Don't try to fight it. It took me about 200 miles to realize this. I have never ridden a 2 wheeler, so I

cannot compare. I have owned a 4 wheeler (still do) and a 3 wheeler (years ago), so the feel of this machine probably came more natural to me. 2 points that are really different: power steering and a lot more power. My RS will haul :cus:. Hang in there:yes: You've got some great rides ahead of you:clap::clap:
 
I'm still waiting for the relaxed feeling to become automatic instead of having to tell myself hey dummy relax. I know it helps a lot but it is not yet automatic.
 
I can so relate ...

I picked my RT-S SE5 up on May 8th and never looked back. It is a good work out on the shoulders, arms and back, but I'm not complaining!! Have put 1,589 miles on my baby since last month and luv every minute of it!! I understand about the back roads as well; you don't have so many gawkers which makes it easier to get up the road! If I travel the main roads through town and stop at a red light, I don't look right or left because someone is just waiting to toss a question or make a comment out their window. It's always positive though. I've been riding on 2 wheels since I was in my 20's and the feel/lean of the Spyder is quite different, but not particularly hard to get use to if you've been on other power sport vehicles. Good luck with your new Spyder and I hope you have many many miles of enjoyment!

Well I took my Spyder for it's first outing today. I remember when I got my Burgman 400 I had people sometimes ask about riding a scooter, but nothing like on the Spyder. I had 3 people stop at stop signs and ask about and 2 just gawk at it. Anyway I went on some back country roads to avoid traffic as much as possible. I found that no one is kidding when they say it is different.

I think for people that have never been on 2 wheels it will be easier as the most common effect they will have to deal with is the feelings they will experience when handling a curve and the feeling of shifting. On a curve you really must consciously feel the control of the handlebars and the road. In a car you turn the wheel and the car goes but most cars you don't get the feel of the turn. On a Spyder you feel resistance in the handlebars and you feel the curve's angle and sharpness along with the slant of the road.


On 2 wheels you don't feel the curve in the handlebars as a lot of the control is by leaning. You don't feel the angle of the curve as you often just cut through it from one side of the lane to the other. You don't feel the slant of the road as you only feel the amount of lean.


Another thing that you feel more on a Spyder is the unevenness of the road. I mean when you go over areas of the road where a section has sunk or risen in a car you feel both wheels shake the car a little right and left but because you are in a cage you don't feel the full effect. On 2 wheels you don't feel the side ways movement at all. Now on a Spyder you feel one wheel go down or go up as the case may be and you feel your body try to shift from one side to another (sometimes quite a lot), you feel the rear wheel try and lean as it rides on the slanted portion of the road between the 2 different levels of road. All during this you have to control the handlebars as the wheels try and take the path of least resistance and not just keep in the direction you are going. If you work hard at control you probably will over correct and feel that too.


Please note I did not say it was bad just different and at first can be a real workout but IT IS FUN fun fun


Shifting with the SE5 is different than shifting in a vehicle that has a clutch. With a clutch you slip the clutch as you change gears creating a smooth shift, but with the SE5 you do not control the clutch you just hit the paddle to shift and at first shifting will be abrupt but by finessing the throttle it seem you may be able to smooth that a little but not like having control of the clutch.


2 wheel riders remember brake with the foot not the hands. Since you are accustom to using your hands you really need to practice using your foot a lot as the quick response when needed will be to use your hands and that slows your reaction time. I felt it when approaching a curve and miss gauged the amount of curve without lean and needed to slow down quickly (not much Spyder experience on my part yet).
 
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donec;474091 (Shifting with the SE5 is different than shifting in a vehicle that has a clutch. With a clutch you slip the clutch as you change gears creating a smooth shift said:
You would have learned this eventually. Do not try to finesse the throttle hold it steady. The computer momentarily will cut the spark if it needs to, push the throttle plates open if it needs to and feather the engagement of the clutch. All this is done based on what the Spyder is doing at the time you choose to shift. If you are backing off the throttle during the shift it will often result in a hard shift.
Have fun and enjoy!!
 
I'm still waiting for the relaxed feeling to become automatic instead of having to tell myself hey dummy relax. I know it helps a lot but it is not yet automatic.

Run across country and back and you'll be fine. it takes miles and repetition to become automatic. It will come.
 
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