Spare Bulb Set ?

[GeoffCee]

Some of the laws which must be complied with when motoring in France are:

1. You must carry a pair of flourescent jackets with reflective patches for the driver and passenger to wear in case of a break down at the side of the road.

2. A warning triangle must be carried and set-up to alert other vehicles of the potential danger of your vehicle up ahead if you break down.

3. In each vehicle there must be an unused French-pattern intoxication meter, so the driver can analyse his or her own breath to ensure he or she is under the drink/drive limit.

4. Sat-navs must not carry programs which warn the driver of the location of roadside speed cameras.

5. Every vehicle must carry a spare bulb kit.

It is the spare bulb kit for the Spyder RT that I need help with, my MidWestern Workshop Manual lists only the wattage of the bulbs without giving any manufacturer's data, such as the bulb type and fitting, etc. Anybody got this info to hand? :dontknow: I'm taking my RT into France on tour at the end of May...

 

[gypsy_100]

5. Every vehicle must carry a spare bulb kit.
Anybody got this info to hand?

Great question. I'm plan to put my list together before my next long trip. What I have so far is this:

headlight -- SAE 9005 65W HB3

Fog light -- 35W H8

I need to pull the rear panel off and check the bulb for the rear turn signals. Never seen it mentioned on the site. Also don't know what the front fender marker lights are. Everything else is LED so you're good there -- front turn signals, rear tail and brake lights, and front daytime running lights (for lack of a better description).

Please note -- this is a USA version. The European version may be different. I think I read somewhere on this site that you have distinct high and low beams whereas we have one light with a shutter mechanism. If that is the case, your headlight bulb will clearly be different -- it will have to have two filaments rather than the one that we have. I'd guess the fog light, rear turn signals and front fender marker lights would be the same but who knows?

 

[wyliec]

If the BRP p/n's would help:

http://epc.brp.com/SiteMods/BRP_Public/BRP_Public_Login.aspx?ReturnUrl=/Index.aspx

Just curious; does the train to Paris have a car for bikes and such?

 

[gypsy_100]

headlight -- SAE 9005 65W HB3

Fog light -- 35W H8

Please note -- this is a USA version. The European version may be different.

I'll answer my own question:
USA Headlight per parts diagram: 65W HB3 part number 219800136
USA fog light per parts diagram: H8 35W part number 219800149

European version High Beam Headlight: 65W H9 part number 219800140
European version Low Beam Headlight: "halogen bulb" part number 415129249

It appears from the European Owner's Manual that what I am calling "headlight" on the USA version is your "high beam" headlight. The "fog light" on the USA version is your "low beam" not a "fog light".

So your critical front-end lights are indeed different. The turn signal, back-up light and front fender marker lights do not show anything different for Europe.

Rear turn signal: part number 219800122
Back-up light: part number 415129425
Front fender marker light (position lights): part number 410922994

Not much help. Pull your bulbs and look if there is a "common designation" or order from your dealer by part number.

As mentioned above, take advantage of the BRP website. All the above info came from their parts manuals and owner's manuals which are all available on their website.

Enjoy France and let us know how it goes!

 

[Bob Denman]

So what's the BRP part number for the intoxication meter?? :cheers: :roflblack:
That's a very interesting set of regulations; Thanks for posting it! :thumbup:

 

[gypsy_100]

Pull your bulbs and look if there is a "common designation" or order from your dealer by part number.

Once again I'll answer my own question. I was working on the bike today and pulled the back off to check the bulbs. The tail/brakelight assembly has to be moved to get enough room to get the turn signal bulb out! Anyway, here's what I found and what I found on the internet:

Turn signal bulb (amber) was Philips 12496. The internet shows this may also be equal to Osram 7507 or European GE 1056. The key is 21W 12V with a base designation of BAU15S. This is a bayonet base with two pins that are not opposite each other (180 degrees) but rather are offset (150 degrees). I'm not sure but it appears that base is used for amber bulbs. Bulb shape is S8.

Backup-light bulb was Osram 7506. This is a clear bulb, again 21W 12V. Bulb shape again is S8. The base, however, is a BA15S. This is similar to above -- a bayonet base but with the pins directly opposite each other (180 degrees). I found one reference that said you could substitute an 1156 bulb with a BA15S brass base (7506 is nickel) but the watts are slightly higher. The 1156 is 2.1 amps, 27 watts versus the original 7506 which is 1.75 amps 21 watts as specified by BRP.

More than I want to know. Everyone asleep yet??

 

[larrymz3]

Great info, thanks.


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[GeoffCee]

Just curious; does the train to Paris have a car for bikes and such?

I'm afraid I have no knowledge of what rail services are available to Paris but a few years ago we joined an organised bike tour and for our first and only time we travelled from Calais to Marseille overnight by French Motorail. Motorail trains are specifically designed for the transportation of cars, bikes and their passengers. We found it was great for covering a long distance quickly and my wife and I slept like babies in our cabin cots while the train rumbled on regardless. Of course, this means missing out on some remarkably beautiful French scenery, villages and towns, but that's the choice you make when you decide to go by rail.

I am immensely grateful for the lighting info that has been posted in response to my query regarding bulb types. I never fail to be amazed by the trouble that Spyder owners are prepared to go to on behalf of people posting on this forum. :f_spider:

 

[wyliec]

I actually meant the train from London to Paris.

 

[GeoffCee]

I actually meant the train from London to Paris.

Quote from the Motorail Service:

Normal passenger trains don't carry cars or motorbikes, just passengers and sometimes bicycles. However, there are special 'Motorail' trains which carry cars & motorbikes using car transporters attached to the train. These run on a handful of holiday routes. They're usually summer-only and usually only once or twice a week. They are run by several operators. From the UK you must first take a ferry or Eurotunnel shuttle across the Channel, as motorail trains cannot use the Channel Tunnel, they start at either Düsseldorf (Germany) or s'Hertogenbosch (Netherlands) or Paris, but no longer (as of 2010) from Calais. Motorail trains carry cars, motorbikes, small trailers & roof boxes, and on many routes you can now take some over-height 4x4 vehicles & people carriers. However, they can't carry big 4X4s, vans, caravans or campers, as these are too high. There are no motorail trains within the UK, these ceased in 1995. :banghead:

 

[GeoffCee]

So what's the BRP part number for the intoxication meter?? :cheers: :roflblack:

I haven't seen one of these babies yet, but they are cheap enough at only a Euro each. I'll no doubt be buying 2 of them on the ferry. "Why 2 ?" you may ask: well if you've had a drink and want to know if you're OK to drive you will use one of the one-shot meters to check up on yourself. But French law states you must always have an unused meter with you in the car, hence the need for the 2nd one. And you will have to purchase a third meter before you use that... ad infinitum! And this in a country that produces some of the best wine in the world!

The above law came into force this year, as did the ban on satnav's telling you where all the police speed cameras are to be found.

Conclusion: The French are crazy and getting crazier! (Proving that there is nothing like travel for narrowing the mind.) :gaah: