Update Can-Am Spyder Hybrid Roadster Concept

[docdoru]

Yes they do, And the torque is instant. Zero to ??
It actually has to be tuned down or you won't be able to control it off the line.

Don't give them any ideas to throttle down the power plant, look what they did on the RS's with the original Rotax in Aprilia RSV Mille (ME 1998-2000 and RP 2001-2002), Tuono and SL 1000 Falco. :shocked:

 

[daveinva]

Many here will beg to differ on the RS being an "around the town" bike.

And I'd fight them to the death with a wet noodle, for it most certainly is when compared to an RT! :sour:

Some people are the shape, size and bone structure to get hundreds of miles out of the stock RS. Those five people all post here. hyea:

The rest of RS owners, however, are greatly aided by the addition or risers, windshields, highway pegs, footboards, and the all important upgraded seat.

That's why there are a thousand threads here that all say the same thing: DON'T buy an RS with the hopes of turning it into an RT. You'll just shovel money out the door, and it'll never be an RT.

Me, of course, I knew all of this before I shoveled my money out the door, but I did it knowingly, i.e. I wanted a customized *RS*, not an RT.

But before those mods, the RS was most definitely not a touring bike out of the box. :doorag:

My two cents, to each their own, YMMV, happy holidays!

 

[Bob Denman]

I wanted a customized *RS*, not an RT.

But before those mods, the RS was most definitely not a touring bike out of the box. :doorag:

My two cents, to each their own, YMMV, happy holidays!

...And the same to you and yours, Dave! :2thumbs:

 

[WackyDan]

And I'd fight them to the death with a wet noodle, for it most certainly is when compared to an RT! :sour:

Some people are the shape, size and bone structure to get hundreds of miles out of the stock RS. Those five people all post here. hyea:

The rest of RS owners, however, are greatly aided by the addition or risers, windshields, highway pegs, footboards, and the all important upgraded seat.

That's why there are a thousand threads here that all say the same thing: DON'T buy an RS with the hopes of turning it into an RT. You'll just shovel money out the door, and it'll never be an RT.

Me, of course, I knew all of this before I shoveled my money out the door, but I did it knowingly, i.e. I wanted a customized *RS*, not an RT.

But before those mods, the RS was most definitely not a touring bike out of the box. :doorag:

My two cents, to each their own, YMMV, happy holidays!

So you want to fight eh?

The RS is after all, a "sport tourer"... I don't disagree that the RT is more comfy out of the box for full on touring, but like you, I prefer the RS configured the way I want as a full blown tourer. * and you know that there are far more people on this forum that have racked up major touring miles on an GS/RS before they ever got an RT if they have moved to an RT yet at all. I don't begrudge anyone the choice of buying an rt versus an rs. When it comes to hybrids, I just don't see a hybrid spyder being feasible. Great PR, not a real product. If it is real, then I'll support the expansion of the product line by BRP, but I'm betting it won't find it's way to my garage unless the performance is there for the right value.

 

[Bob Denman]

"Different strokes for different folks"; right? :thumbup:

 

[chris56]

Yes they do, And the torque is instant. Zero to ??
It actually has to be tuned down or you won't be able to control it off the line.

the engine what KTM brings out next year should be like a 125ccm Bike but 2times the torque ..
7,4 kw / 22 KW ..means 10-30 HPs !!
43NM - 500Ups
batterie 300V - 2500 Wh (Li IONEN MANGAN) - 1,5 hours to load it up

the bike could be work also underwater water !!?! (1m is no problem)
the batterie can changed in some seconds to a new full laoded one ..
there is a wheel on the bars where you can easy change the torque sport/rain aso ..

so I think the spy-hybrid will be "stronger" and "faster" than the old one -but I`m a electrician and not so much a mechanical guy ..
and this wonder-engine will also fit in the RT- Modells ..

 

[spydee owner]

hybrid spyder

I am all in favor of fuel efficiency and conservation, but am definitely NOT in favor of mandates from my government. I own a Tahoe hybrid, I am not a granola, I just did not want to send any more cash than necessary to the a--holes in Saudi Arabia. I would be interested in a hybrid spyder, if, and only if, it had the performance to match the standard models. 57 hp, is not ever going to do it for me. Maybe as a commuter for some people, but I do this for fun and speed. 57 ponies?? That must be some sort of joke. Maybe if it was a children's version. I had my 12 year-old riding a snowmobile with more power than that! Just my 2 cents.

Rewatch the video. The performance targets are 50% less emissions, 50% increase in fuel economy and all with the same performance as the current spyders. Nothing was said about 57 hp being the final output on this bike.

As far as sending more money to the Saudis, you need look no further than your own American oil companies. They ,as well as, oil companies in most other countries are all complicit in the price setting (fixing) for petroleum products in my opinion.

 

[spydee owner]

BRP has been a leader in producing some really revolutionary motors in snowmobiles that are very efficient and still have great power. The e-tec mills for example. If they really want to make these trikes more fuel efficient, they could start with cutting weight. Speed is not just about horsepower, it is also about power to weight ratios. Drag is another area where they might be able to improve fuel efficiency.

It is true that BRP is a leader in engine technology not only on land but on the water and in the air.
They could cut weight by using aluminum frame and titanium bits and pieces, but I would think that they have a trade off for this kind of thing when it comes to what the consumers are willing to pay. BRP could have these bikes (just as an example) getting 70 miles per gallon and 0 to 60 mph in 3 seconds but when they say "Oh by the way the unit price is $40,000" the consumers would be leaving them in the showroom.
I think that if BRP decides to offer this hybrid for sale it will do exactly what they say it will do before it hits the showrooms. In other words it won't be an edsel.

 

[wyliec]

As far as sending more money to the Saudis, you need look no further than your own American oil companies. They ,as well as, oil companies in most other countries are all complicit in the price setting (fixing) for petroleum products in my opinion.

I agree, which is why I agreed with the other member when he said 'oil barons.' The poster that mentioned a--holes from Saudi may want to read this, before name calling:

http://money.howstuffworks.com/oil-speculation-raise-gas-price.htm