Oil running down side onto footpeg and muffler

[Spyderjockey]

We went for about 100 mile ryde yesterday. When we got back home I noticed streaks running down both sides of the black panels, but worse on the right side and down onto footpeg assembly and onto the front of muffler. I am still having the gas fume problem even after doing the "canisterectomy" and at first I thought the streaks were from gasoline, but after a closer look I realized it was oil. I am going to take the plastic off and see if I can tell what is going on. Has anyone else expierenced this problem?

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[Lamonster]

When was the last time you cleaned out the oil in your airbox? My guess is that's where it's coming from.

 

[Spyderjockey]

I changed the air filter and cleaned what oil was in the box then, but it was very little oil at that point. I'll check it again now. Thanks!!

 

[Mo Lee]

Be sure it is not gasoline evaporating and leaving an oil film. I have my vent hose ran all the way to the rear swing arm and get an oil residue there and it is worse in warm weather. When you remove your charcoal canister what did you do with the vent hole coming from the fuel tank, it has to vent somewhere. Spyders do not do well if you fill the tank all the way esp. in hot weather, this is what fills the charcoal canister to begin with. I have on several occasions had the pump not cut off as it should when gassing up which in turn overfills the tank the as the heat builds and the gas expands it has to go somewhere and this is where it is critical it is vented outside the plastics away from any sources of heat or spark.

 

[Spyderjockey]

I ran the vent hose down and out just in back of the radiator.

 

[Mo Lee]

I ran the vent hose down and out just in back of the radiator.

It could be coming out of the vent and blowing up the way the picture looks. Anyway keep us posted as to what you find. Just what ever you do rule out fuel!

 

[boborgera]

We went for about 100 mile ryde yesterday. When we got back home I noticed streaks running down both sides of the black panels, but worse on the right side and down onto footpeg assembly and onto the front of muffler. I am still having the gas fume problem even after doing the "canisterectomy" and at first I thought the streaks were from gasoline, but after a closer look I realized it was oil. I am going to take the plastic off and see if I can tell what is going on. Has anyone else expierenced this problem?

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I just cleaned my eyes, And took a look at your picture, And I'll say it's from your air box. [blow bye]

 

[Spyderjockey]

I just cleaned my eyes, And took a look at your picture, And I'll say it's from your air box. [blow bye]

I just took the cover off of the air box and removed the air filter. There was a little oil film inside the air box but not a lot of standing oil. I agree that I must be getting some blow by because the front and bottom of the air box and hoses and everything have a lot of crud on them. My question is how do I prevent this and what causes oil to be in the air box.....is this normal? Also the stains that run down the plastic are slightly etched into the plastic and cannot be cleaned or removed, it's strange.

 

[NancysToy]

If you had oil in your airbox before, you probably have it all over several components beneath it now. Cleaning the airbox is only half the problem, the oil that leaks out of the airbox goes everywhere.

 

[Mo Lee]

Based on the picture and your comment about it being etched into the plastic, I'm sticking with the fuel idea.

 

[boborgera]

I just took the cover off of the air box and removed the air filter. There was a little oil film inside the air box but not a lot of standing oil. I agree that I must be getting some blow by because the front and bottom of the air box and hoses and everything have a lot of crud on them. My question is how do I prevent this and what causes oil to be in the air box.....is this normal? Also the stains that run down the plastic are slightly etched into the plastic and cannot be cleaned or removed, it's strange.

Oil gets blown up through the crankcase vent hose into the air box then drips out the weep hole in the bottom of the box then it gets all over. , Some members use a catch can ,some [me included] use a half inch piece of foam in the vent hose to stop blow bye, Is it normal, yes and no, A 3 dollar PVC Valve and a piece of felt in the air cleaner from the factory would fix it. Automobile companies learned that back in the late 60's when the Government made them go to the closed crankcase system.

 

[Spyderjockey]

We went for a ryde again today after I put everything back together and believe it or not I found out it is gasoline that is running down the plastic panels, because after I filled up I didn't get 2 blocks and we started smelling gas fumes and they were really strong. I stopped and got off and there it was gasoline running right down the side of the panel so I'm sure that is what left the streaks and the oily residue must be coming from the gasoline hitting the oil that is there on the motor. I filled the tank the same way I always have and have never had a problem like this until yesterday and I have over 48,000 miles on the Spyder. I am wondering if I have a compromised gas tank for some reason. Also wondering if the "canisterectomy" has something to do with the problem since I started having the issue right after I did the procedure.....though I don't see how that would cause the problem. Any thoughts would be really appreciated and wondering if any one has had a gasoline tank fail? Thanks for all your help. I will probably end up going to the dealer with the problem, but wonder if I should reverse the "canisterectomy" before I take it there since I have the extended warranty?

PS: Removal of the canister and plugging the hose has really made the bike run a lot better.......no jumping and jerking between 3000 and 4000 RPMS like I had before!!

 

[wyliec]

Spydrjockey,

I just sent you a P.M.

 

[NancysToy]

We went for a ryde again today after I put everything back together and believe it or not I found out it is gasoline that is running down the plastic panels, because after I filled up I didn't get 2 blocks and we started smelling gas fumes and they were really strong. I stopped and got off and there it was gasoline running right down the side of the panel so I'm sure that is what left the streaks and the oily residue must be coming from the gasoline hitting the oil that is there on the motor. I filled the tank the same way I always have and have never had a problem like this until yesterday and I have over 48,000 miles on the Spyder. I am wondering if I have a compromised gas tank for some reason. Also wondering if the "canisterectomy" has something to do with the problem since I started having the issue right after I did the procedure.....though I don't see how that would cause the problem. Any thoughts would be really appreciated and wondering if any one has had a gasoline tank fail? Thanks for all your help. I will probably end up going to the dealer with the problem, but wonder if I should reverse the "canisterectomy" before I take it there since I have the extended warranty?

PS: Removal of the canister and plugging the hose has really made the bike run a lot better.......no jumping and jerking between 3000 and 4000 RPMS like I had before!!

Check your fuel filter and hoses for loose clamps or failures, ASAP. We don't need another Spyder fire.

 

[Mo Lee]

We went for a ryde again today after I put everything back together and believe it or not I found out it is gasoline that is running down the plastic panels, because after I filled up I didn't get 2 blocks and we started smelling gas fumes and they were really strong. I stopped and got off and there it was gasoline running right down the side of the panel so I'm sure that is what left the streaks and the oily residue must be coming from the gasoline hitting the oil that is there on the motor. I filled the tank the same way I always have and have never had a problem like this until yesterday and I have over 48,000 miles on the Spyder. I am wondering if I have a compromised gas tank for some reason. Also wondering if the "canisterectomy" has something to do with the problem since I started having the issue right after I did the procedure.....though I don't see how that would cause the problem. Any thoughts would be really appreciated and wondering if any one has had a gasoline tank fail? Thanks for all your help. I will probably end up going to the dealer with the problem, but wonder if I should reverse the "canisterectomy" before I take it there since I have the extended warranty?

PS: Removal of the canister and plugging the hose has really made the bike run a lot better.......no jumping and jerking between 3000 and 4000 RPMS like I had before!!

Unless you have a fuel line leaking I would say it is coming from the vent line now connecting to the tank. What happens is the charcoal cannister normally serve as a catch can for fuel that expands from the tank for heat or overfilling. Ideally this excess fuel get drawn back into the engine when the purge valve opens at higher RPM. When the cannister is flooded so to speak the fumes and some liquid gets expelled from the vent on top of the cannister, the one that needs the extention hose that I suggest should be ran to the rear. I prefer to leave the charcoal cannister in place and let it do what it can because if you remove it completely all of the excess fuel and fumes just go out the vent tube and create a mess and a worse fire hazard.

 

[nudle]

:agree: my hose was run to the front and my right boot and pants always smelled like gasoline. I ran the hose to the rear and no more gasoline smell.