Thoughts on my RS Problem

[IWN2RYD]

My $.02. No way in Hockey Sticks they would be tearing down my brand new bike.

New bike/engine or I would ryde it.

Check the Clutch and items like that? Sure you bet. Complete tear down? NO!

A question has not been asked yet that I think is very important. Do they have another RS-S like/similar to yours and have you ridden that one to see if the sound is there as well?

Did this happen all of the sudden or from day one?

Please know we are on your side. And I trust Scotty, and I can tell you he and I had our own issues on our own Spyders, and came out the other end please with the end results.

If I learned anything, it is to hold your ground in a respectful, mature, reasonable fashion and you will too be happy in the end.

New Bike or new engine please... (If something is actually wrong) Good luck!

 

[Firefly]

Let the dealership do their job and tear it down. If and when they find the problem, do not allow it to be repaired, but push then for a replacement. You will get nowhere if you don't let them look inside. Kind of like'''' I think its broken, so replace it just in case'''. I have a great dealership that I use and this approach has worked very well for me. Just my 02 cents on this one.

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And miss out on a summer of riding??? No way hombre!

 

[Campverdefela]

opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:

 

[RS-Jack]

After much much thought and the advice from here. I have decided to let them take it and start looking into the motor. If it at first they find nothing under valve covers, side covers and the easily accessible inspections of the engine i'm going to tell them to contact me before proceeding to disect my engine. Hopefully something obvious will be found early in the process.

I do not expect the dealer or BRP to give me the world just what i paid for. a Reliable machine!

Whatever happens i will update you all on what they find.

Thanks to all that have given advice on here. It is much appreciated!

Jack

 

[Firefly]

After much much thought and the advice from here. I have decided to let them take it and start looking into the motor. If it at first they find nothing under valve covers, side covers and the easily accessible inspections of the engine i'm going to tell them to contact me before proceeding to disect my engine. Hopefully something obvious will be found early in the process.

I do not expect the dealer or BRP to give me the world just what i paid for. a Reliable machine!

Whatever happens i will update you all on what they find.

Thanks to all that have given advice on here. It is much appreciated!

Jack

Sounds like a good 'compromise'. Pulling the valve covers and checking things out isn't very major at all-- especially compared to tearing it all apart.

 

[RS-Jack]

Having not heard the noise :agree:I wish time was no issue it would be a good excuse for a ride. Long trip to listen to a :spyder2:.

My only question is does the noise frequency follow the RPM evenly or change with gear selection:dontknow:

Jim:thumbup:

The noise sounds the same if its in neutral or any gear. Slight changes in pitch between 3000-4500 rpm's. My best way to describe it is kind of a squeak/Ducati dry clutch sound but not as loud as a Ducati....Thank god

 

[bone crusher]

After much much thought and the advice from here. I have decided to let them take it and start looking into the motor. If it at first they find nothing under valve covers, side covers and the easily accessible inspections of the engine i'm going to tell them to contact me before proceeding to disect my engine. Hopefully something obvious will be found early in the process.

I do not expect the dealer or BRP to give me the world just what i paid for. a Reliable machine!

Whatever happens i will update you all on what they find.

Thanks to all that have given advice on here. It is much appreciated!

Jack

Hopefully they'll find the culprit without having to get too 'deep' into things...good luck and hope you're on the road soon...

 

[freebob]

The noise sounds the same if its in neutral or any gear. Slight changes in pitch between 3000-4500 rpm's. My best way to describe it is kind of a squeak/Ducati dry clutch sound but not as loud as a Ducati....Thank god

Hope everythng works out for you and you are still able to make
Owners Event in Maggie Valley...ray:...

Freebob...:doorag:

 

[jedd]

After much much thought and the advice from here. I have decided to let them take it and start looking into the motor. If it at first they find nothing under valve covers, side covers and the easily accessible inspections of the engine i'm going to tell them to contact me before proceeding to disect my engine. Hopefully something obvious will be found early in the process.

I do not expect the dealer or BRP to give me the world just what i paid for. a Reliable machine!

Whatever happens i will update you all on what they find.

Thanks to all that have given advice on here. It is much appreciated!

Jack

:congrats:I like your decision and wish you good luck!! Hope your dealer recognizes your patience..

Jim:thumbup:

 

[boborgera]

The noise sounds the same if its in neutral or any gear. Slight changes in pitch between 3000-4500 rpm's. My best way to describe it is kind of a squeak/Ducati dry clutch sound but not as loud as a Ducati....Thank god

My 08 m5 was making the same noise [dry clutch sound] Been doing it for a week or two, I kind of known it was the clutch but i got stubborn and kept on riding ,
This morning the sound stopped,
The clutch blew up.:yikes:
20 Miles from home, Luckily my Son was home today and picked me up with my trailer. Back to my my En-6n till it's fixed.

 

[docdoru]

My 08 m5 was making the same noise [dry clutch sound] Been doing it for a week or two, I kind of known it was the clutch but i got stubborn and kept on riding ,
This morning the sound stopped,
The clutch blew up.:yikes:
20 Miles from home, Luckily my Son was home today and picked me up with my trailer. Back to my my En-6n till it's fixed.

Welcome to the clutch destroyer world. nojoke

 

[RS-Jack]

My 08 m5 was making the same noise [dry clutch sound] Been doing it for a week or two, I kind of known it was the clutch but i got stubborn and kept on riding ,
This morning the sound stopped,
The clutch blew up.:yikes:
20 Miles from home, Luckily my Son was home today and picked me up with my trailer. Back to my my En-6n till it's fixed.

Not to make light of your situation. but if mine turns out to be a clutch. I'll dance naked in the street:yes:..... Oh wait did I say that outloud!!!!

Inside voice Jack!!! Inside voice!!!

 

[Raptor]

I do like the fact that the dealer and BRP is being proactive in dealing with this issue. I myself would have been reeeeeally hesitant to let them just tear into the engine like that. However, The ball is rolling now so I guess we will just have to stand by and see how this all plays out. I think starting with the "peripheral" stuff and working from the outside in is the best approach at this point now that the "go" decision has been made.

Best of luck to you, Jack. Hope it works out for the best.

 

[NancysToy]

I'll gladly endorse the crankcase cover/clutch approach. That can also show signs of heavy metal debris in the engine, without risking a complete teardown. If they find no clutch problem, or find metal debris in the engine, you can negotiate again. Best of luck to you and your tech!

 

[Tilty]

I agree don't let them tear it down! Make them replace the motor or a new machine.

Depending on your dealer they do have pull with BRP my dealer, Here in Wisconsin Robs performance can make BRP do anything!

He made them deliver my wifes spyder special only thing on the truck!

It's all who you know and how to make it happen.

Good luck

 

[Freddy]

I'll gladly endorse the crankcase cover/clutch approach. That can also show signs of heavy metal debris in the engine, without risking a complete teardown. If they find no clutch problem, or find metal debris in the engine, you can negotiate again. Best of luck to you and your tech!

But Scotty, that would show up in the filters, surely?

 

[Bob Denman]

Welcome to the clutch destroyer world. nojoke

Thus sayeth The Destroyer...

 

[NancysToy]

But Scotty, that would show up in the filters, surely?

Not necessarily. The filter itself traps the debris inside, and few cut apart their filters to inspect. Large debris never makes it to the filter, and aluminum debris is not collected on the magnet. Several people have had removal of the clutch cover reveal evidence of metal and extensive damage.

 

[Firefly]

Also have them pull the oil tank screen and check it.......

 

[bone crusher]

I agree don't let them tear it down! Make them replace the motor or a new machine.

Depending on your dealer they do have pull with BRP my dealer, Here in Wisconsin Robs performance can make BRP do anything!

He made them deliver my wifes spyder special only thing on the truck!

It's all who you know and how to make it happen.

Good luck

Unlikely...a company isn't just going to fork over a new engine or bike without taking a look to find the problem. I think in this situation, they have a good plan...it's reasonable...