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BajaRon

BajaRon

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Well, Lamont has me roped into this Guts and Glory ride thing. Must say I'm looking forward to it. If it wasn't for Lamont I'd probably never get away from this computer.

Not that I don't like to ride, just that I'm always digging holes and jumping into them. Kind of soaks up my time!

I don't plan on winning anything on the ride. Just going for the challange.

People have been talking about gearing up for the season with tools, flat repair kits, air compressors and other important gear. And all that is a good idea.

But one thing that seems to be overlooked, sometimes, is lighting. Having good forward lighting makes a huge difference. It reduces fatigue and increases safety by giving you visual contact sooner. And good side and rear lighting helps keep you out of trouble.

The stock lighting on the Spyder is pretty good right out of the box so I'm not saying there is any defect or deficiency there. But better is always, well, just better!

I've always been impressed with NMN's products. Not that others don't make good lighting. But I'm definitely impressed with his stuff on Lamont's Spyder. Even in the day time it's noticably better than OEM.

One of the advantages I have is that Lamont hangs just about everything possible on his Spyder, at one time or another, and I get to see how it performs without having to invest the time and money to experiment myself.

I've already got some of the NMN lighting installed, but for this endurance run I'm certainly going to add to it.
 
IWN2RYD said:
Which lights do you have in mind?
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I'm not extremely fond of my stock fog lights. I'm thinking of taking them out (increasing air flow to the engine compartment at speed), and getting the Day Runner Pucks and maybe Day Runners too.

They look impressive even in the daytime. I guess that's were the name came from.

And they also do a great job at night.

Of course the HID driving lights are also a great upgrade from the stock system. I like the fact that replacing the stock fog lights with the Day Runners lowers the electrical draw, as do the HID's.

The Spyder doesn't have a lot of charging output. Just hanging a lot of amp eaters on it isn't really a great idea.
 
Gotcha... I am asking for similar reasons... I like lighting up the road, just not blinding people.

The lighting today reminds me of the late 70's early 80's when Incandescent lighting looked like pee yellow compared to Halogen.

Now the Halogen looks pee yellow and the HID's are light similar to Daylight.

All our vehicles run the HID's now (Not including the RSS) and I am struggling with spending $300-400 on the fog-light housings and frames just to drop another $180 in HID's in them. Not to mention the air flow you spoke about.

Anyway... Just trying to decide and have not yet met anyone with the pucks mounted... :popcorn:
 
Ron-
I's HIGHLY suggest these guys----
http://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=282698&postcount=23

They are super bright LEDs and don't hog the amps. The key to an uuber bright LED is a) reflector, b) size and quality of the LED substrate (the actual glowing bit) and c) lens. Mount these facing forward around the front suspension, no relay needed, and you will see and be seen. BTW- they have a 7 LED version as well.

Having said that... there is NOTHING that will take the place of the brightness of 2 aftermarket HID fixtures something like these if you could find them in the US-
http://hidlighting.com.au/HID_Driving_Light.html It's almost like a rally level brightness to SEE.
 
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BajaRon said:
I'm not extremely fond of my stock fog lights. I'm thinking of taking them out (increasing air flow to the engine compartment at speed), and getting the Day Runner Pucks and maybe Day Runners too.

They look impressive even in the daytime. I guess that's were the name came from.

And they also do a great job at night.

Of course the HID driving lights are also a great upgrade from the stock system. I like the fact that replacing the stock fog lights with the Day Runners lowers the electrical draw, as do the HID's.

The Spyder doesn't have a lot of charging output. Just hanging a lot of amp eaters on it isn't really a great idea.
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I have the day runners and the day runner pucks.They are very good and easy to install.I am with you on the fog lights not being that good.After reading posts on spyderlovers about the fogs are not that good did not want to waste the money on them.Also the air flow you are talking about is also a plus to get the most air around engine to keep it cooler.:thumbup:
 
I have the hid headlights from ESI and all i can say is wow i have ridden behind my daughter and these lights over power her stock lights. I also have the day runners these are awesome i can only amagine adding the pucks would send the lighting even further being they sit up higher.
 
The stock fogs are underwhelming, especially for the price. I am convinced that there are better ways to spend your money. Of course if you already have them, like I do, there is the option to upgrade to the HID's. Lamont has these and they do work much better.

But I keep coming back to the air flow issue. And there are other ways to get better lighting as well.

You can get the HID kits from 35w to 100w for the driving lights. The 35w is plenty bright enough for me. I know you can get yourself in trouble if your lights are TOO bright. And I like the reduction in electrical draw this gives me.

The ESI Day Runner Pucks are very impressive. And they draw almost nothing compared to the stock fog lights.

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll be checking into them.
 
I always felt that brp fogs finishes the look of spyder, better than anything else out there but only with hid all around. Yes added cost sucks but sometimes I just got to spend.
I paid 268-299 dollars for fogs on eBay and another 80-160 bucks for hid for head and fogs.
 
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IWN2RYD said:
Man oh man I think those are the ticket!! $210 for everything. I mean everything! Dimmer, switch, two 24w lights and water proof connectors... :yes::bowdown:
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I'm getting ready to install the 3 mode dimming. They didn't have the remote dimmer when I bought mine a couple of months ago. BTW, the remote dimmer doesn't work with the 24w 3 mode dimming version of the lights. They offer a single mode 24w light that is used with the dimmer but they are out of stock right now. That is the way I would go if I were you.;) Sign up on their website and they will sent you an email when the 24w lights are back in stock. Also don't forget the ADVrider 10% discount. :lecturef_smilie:
 
aka1004 said:
I always felt that brp fogs finishes the look of spyder, better than anything else out there but only with hid all around. Yes added cost sucks but sometimes I just got to spend.
I paid 268-299 dollars for fogs on eBay and another 80-160 bucks for hid for head and fogs.
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They do give the front of the Spyder a different look. And the location is pretty good too, though it doesn't hurt to have fog lights lower if you can get it to work.

But no matter which way I go, it's going to be a bit spendy. On the other hand, I'll be glad I did, mile after mile.

Choices are GREAT! But how often to you find yourself going through 2 or 3 setups before you get what you REALLY wanted? :dontknow: I guess that's just part of it.

One really big plus about the ESI stuff is, it works right every time. Not that others don't, but some have had issues with non-compatible lighting. I guess that may be restricted to the OEM HID conversions though.
 
Mr Orange said:
For good forward reach out and touch them lighting you have to either have really good optics for a compact package as the PIAA 910s have or go with a larger reflector because size does matter. I used to run the Hella 1000 driving light and they really reach out there but you pay for it due to its 6" lens. On my Concours and now the Spyder I'm running the 910s mounted up under the mirror mounts. Due to the excellent optics and smoother shape they don't take such a toll on the gas consumption. Yes the 910s are old fashioned halogens but with a 4300K bulb they do pretty good and at $280 I think they are a real bargain. The advantage to halogens is there is no warm up time and quick cycling doesn't affect them like HIDs.

http://www.cli-maxridinggear.com/se...-Lamp/Detail?gclid=CJDLxcH0p6cCFQY65QodmT2aDA

PIAA 910
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PIAA910dim.jpg
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Halogen does have some advantages, especially if you are going to be turning them on and off a lot (like high beams in traffic). But they have disadvantages as well.

Halogen draws a lot more juice for the same lumen output, light output diminishes from the time you start using them and they don't last as long as HID's.

And you bump all of that up another notch with LED lights.

Since I'll probably be more of a 'Turn it on and leave it' rider, halogen probably isn't going to be my 1st choice this time.
 
I'm kind of looking into the Day Runners and Day Runner Pucks as well. I have to say that I was a bit disappointed when the 2010 RS-S did not come with the factory fog lights. But 14 did and I agree with Ron that they are not very impressive. They do help, but I think the Day Runners would give me that extra oomph in the lighting dept. that 14 needs. And the Day Runner Pucks will be a huge help to the RS-S. I like the fact that both solutions will mount low so they illuminate just the road. It seems drivers are a bit sensitive to the Spyders' headlights being up high; I get hi-beam flashes quite a bit and I don't even have the highs on. I checked adjustment and they are set correctly. Given that, I'm a bit nervous about mounting HIDs in that position! Pricing for the Day Runners and the Pucks is good also. Makes me feel better about buying something that is not a performance-based part! :thumbup:
 
Raptor said:
I'm kind of looking into the Day Runners and Day Runner Pucks as well. I have to say that I was a bit disappointed when the 2010 RS-S did not come with the factory fog lights. But 14 did and I agree with Ron that they are not very impressive. They do help, but I think the Day Runners would give me that extra oomph in the lighting dept. that 14 needs. And the Day Runner Pucks will be a huge help to the RS-S. I like the fact that both solutions will mount low so they illuminate just the road. It seems drivers are a bit sensitive to the Spyders' headlights being up high; I get hi-beam flashes quite a bit and I don't even have the highs on. I checked adjustment and they are set correctly. Given that, I'm a bit nervous about mounting HIDs in that position! Pricing for the Day Runners and the Pucks is good also. Makes me feel better about buying something that is not a performance-based part! :thumbup:
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Did you check the headlight adjustment with a rider in the seat? If not, and you didn't throw a sandbag on there, you may need to adjust them a little lower, to compensate.
 
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