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PAPA G
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JB
DAVE 01 will you give up your secret settings please so I can get mine right
the first time:clap:
thanks in ave..
DAVE 01 will you give up your secret settings please so I can get mine right
the first time:clap:
thanks in ave..
Roger
New member
Yes you can really feel the difference with the jbpro. Buy it install it and put it on setting number 3 to start then take it for a ride then you come back here and tell me "Yup you were right". :2thumbs:
Campverdefela
New member
I average 27 or so around town and 31 highway, check my mods to see what I'm running but I believe I'm pretty average with what I have installed....
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WackyDan
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For the JB Pro, the stored maps that come with it are something like this....
Map 0 - JB off - Stock mapping
Map 1 - JB adjusted for stock spyder, stock pipe, and air filter. ( This is probably the one you should run if your spyder is bone stock)
Map 2 - JB adjusted for single two bros pipe.
Map 3 - JB adjusted for dual two bros pipe.
Running map 2 or 3 with a stock spyder may make it run better, but it may also foul your plugs.
I'm running Map 1 with the kewl metal intake and stock pipe... and the bike runs great, but I have some issues with plugs... Two Brothers pipe is being ordered shortly and that should resolve things for me.
You can also adjust the JB output via dials on the unit without adjusting maps with a computer.
Problem with the JB pro... Is that you really can't make your own maps realistically unless you have a dyno. If you look at the maps that come with the JB Pro for the Spyder, you can tell they spent a lot of time looking at the spyder's performance on a dyno - adding or taking fuel away at specific RPM's and throttle positions.
In my case, the kewl metal air intake caused me to run too lean, and map 1 solved that but causes me to run a bit rich, but better. I put off the pipe for various reasons, but wanted the intake for easier access to the right side of the motor.
So... hopefully the pipe brings out the value of having the JB pro on the machine.
Map 0 - JB off - Stock mapping
Map 1 - JB adjusted for stock spyder, stock pipe, and air filter. ( This is probably the one you should run if your spyder is bone stock)
Map 2 - JB adjusted for single two bros pipe.
Map 3 - JB adjusted for dual two bros pipe.
Running map 2 or 3 with a stock spyder may make it run better, but it may also foul your plugs.
I'm running Map 1 with the kewl metal intake and stock pipe... and the bike runs great, but I have some issues with plugs... Two Brothers pipe is being ordered shortly and that should resolve things for me.
You can also adjust the JB output via dials on the unit without adjusting maps with a computer.
Problem with the JB pro... Is that you really can't make your own maps realistically unless you have a dyno. If you look at the maps that come with the JB Pro for the Spyder, you can tell they spent a lot of time looking at the spyder's performance on a dyno - adding or taking fuel away at specific RPM's and throttle positions.
In my case, the kewl metal air intake caused me to run too lean, and map 1 solved that but causes me to run a bit rich, but better. I put off the pipe for various reasons, but wanted the intake for easier access to the right side of the motor.
So... hopefully the pipe brings out the value of having the JB pro on the machine.
bone crusher
Alignment Specialist
I have the JB and love it...it'd be nice to have the Pro, but for now, my bike runs great!
Campverdefela
New member
Why don't they formulate a MAP-4 for setups with a free flow exhaust paired with free flow intake? Thats the only reason I've stuck with the original JB but I realize the Pro with the right map would be better....
cjackg
New member
I was on the phone with TBR this week for questions installing the JB PRO in my RT and asked them about getting a map for a free flow exhaust paired with free flow intake. They told me they would get back to me but I never heard more.
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Campverdefela
New member
To quote Jay Leno....exactly, exactly
WackyDan
New member
I would tell you why, but the answer is already in the supplied maps. Two Bros is only going to make maps for the stuff they make. That is the reason you see only maps for bone stock and with their pipes. They do not make an intake or air filter for the Spyder, so they have not factored a different filter into the mix.
So... the implied value proposition from Two Bros is the coupling of the JB with one of their pipes.
Sucks... But lets assume that the maps they made for their pipes are very precise... Any map they made for 'free" flowing intake and exhaust would be probably off the mark as they would have no idea what "free flowing" parts you were using.
Campverdefela
New member
Even so, Two Bros would probably sell a lot more JB Pros if they made the effort....
NancysToy
Motorbike Professor
I am reminded of the old saying, "You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar." It doesn't pay to tick off Santa Claus, IMO.
stormtrooper
New member
I thought the two bro top tune kit came with a free flow filter.So they sell the pipe and a filter so why not a map for both.:dontknow:
:agree:
But here in Jersey i find we can catch more flies with dead squirrel's :roflblack:
IWN2RYD
New member
Hope I am able to help here...
As you can see in this link they do in fact have what they are calling their "TopTune Kit" for many Can Am products. The RS and RT are two different kits (Link) and there are two kits for the RS. One for the Dual pipes and one for the single.
All the kits include the K&N filter, and the two sound tips (Or four for the dual kit) and the PRO.
Now when I spoke with them they basically said the reason they include the PRO in the kit is in an attempt to help more folks and allow for personal needs for the climate they play/live in. But they will only map for their pipes and stock. Anything more than that and a simple twist here and there will work for most folks.
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