Oil Smell

[bruiser]

Has anyone had the smell of oil on hot exhaust??? Rode my RTS on New Years Day. About half way through the 100 plus mile run we stopped for a short breather. As I was puling up to the pack I smelled what can be described as oil on a hot exhaust pipe. I thought it was another bike as one of the 2 wheelers was having some difficulty during the ride. We had to abort the ride due to weather. On the return trip I pulled up to a stop light solo, and I smelled it again. Pulled off but saw no signs of an oil leak. Oil level was at the top mark. Got home and smelled it again. Next day did as much of a check as I could, nothing, all areas dry and oil was at the top and no spots on the floor. Took it to my dealer today for early 3,000 (2820) oil change and some other minor work. Told him what I was experiencing. He could find no leaks either. He didn't drive it. And the smell still persists. Any Ideas????? :helpsmilie:opcorn:

 

[boborgera]

Has anyone had the smell of oil on hot exhaust??? Rode my RTS on New Years Day. About half way through the 100 plus mile run we stopped for a short breather. As I was puling up to the pack I smelled what can be described as oil on a hot exhaust pipe. I thought it was another bike as one of the 2 wheelers was having some difficulty during the ride. We had to abort the ride due to weather. On the return trip I pulled up to a stop light solo, and I smelled it again. Pulled off but saw no signs of an oil leak. Oil level was at the top mark. Got home and smelled it again. Next day did as much of a check as I could, nothing, all areas dry and oil was at the top and no spots on the floor. Took it to my dealer today for early 3,000 (28820) oil change and some other minor work. Told him what I was experiencing. He could find no leaks either. He didn't drive it. And the smell still persists. Any Ideas????? :helpsmilie:opcorn:

:dontknow:
Just a guess ;
Could it be blow bye dripping from the air box,? Had that on my 08.

 

[NancysToy]

:dontknow:
Just a guess ;
Could it be blow bye dripping from the air box,? Had that on my 08.

:agree:

 

[fastfraser]

Is this still a problem on the RT, I thought this was exclusive to the RS .If this is a problem on the RT, what is the fix ? Catch can ,disconnect the hose from the air box and add a longer hose ?:dontknow:

 

[boborgera]

Is this still a problem on the RT, I thought this was exclusive to the RS .If this is a problem on the RT, what is the fix ? Catch can ,disconnect the hose from the air box and add a longer hose ?:dontknow:

I would think they would have it fixed by now, But you never know.:dontknow:
I fixed mine almost 3 years ago with a 1/2 inch piece of foam in the crankcase vent hose.:thumbup:
Also it could be something entirely different.opcorn:

 

[NancysToy]

Is this still a problem on the RT, I thought this was exclusive to the RS .If this is a problem on the RT, what is the fix ? Catch can ,disconnect the hose from the air box and add a longer hose ?:dontknow:

It is certainly more likely on an RS, but it is possible on the RT, and is an easy thing to check (after the body panels come off, which is not as much fun). Another possibility would be a bad valve cover gasket, but unless there was a valve check recently, there is no reason for the problem to begin now. In the end, the problem will eventually reveal itself with staining on the exhaust, if it is an oil leak of some kind. Good luck with the search!

 

[M2Wild]

I didn't see you write smoke in your exhaust .... must be from the engine compartment. Blow-by is the most likely cause.

 

[bruiser]

The mechanic at the dealer said the air box was dry and that the air box update had been done before the :spyder2: shipped from the factory (?). I'm going to check it myself as soon as I have time to undress the beast, when that will be is anybodys guess. So hang in there fans for the next episode. opcorn:

 

[fastfraser]

What is the air box update ?:dontknow:

 

[Marker]

The mechanic at the dealer said the air box was dry and that the air box update had been done before the :spyder2: shipped from the factory (?). I'm going to check it myself as soon as I have time to undress the beast, when that will be is anybodys guess. So hang in there fans for the next episode. opcorn:

opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:opcorn:opcornatiently waiting

 

[boborgera]

What is the air box update ?:dontknow:

:dontknow:
Maybe they did a change in the crankcase vent on the newer model's.
That shouldn't take more than 10 cents 11 Canadian to fix.
Or maybe there is no update and the mechanic, Is just [no new rope please] blowing smoke.
It would be hard for me to believe that if there was an update, any update it wouldn't have been posted on "Spyderlovers" first.:shocked:

 

[bruiser]

:dontknow:
Maybe they did a change in the crankcase vent on the newer model's.
That shouldn't take more than 10 cents 11 Canadian to fix.
Or maybe there is no update and the mechanic, Is just [no new rope please] blowing smoke.
It would be hard for me to believe that if there was an update, any update it wouldn't have been posted on "Spyderlovers" first.:shocked:

That's why I put the question mark in the post. Had another surprise today. While washing the :spyder2: I opened the front cover and lo and behold, there were tools, the fuse box cover and the two access covers laying in the trunk. When I picked the :spyder2: up Saturday, they said it was done. Took them twenty minutes to bring it out as well. Now I gotta wonder, what else went on. And they said they fixed the non working rear heated grips and front trunk electric release. THEY ARE NOT WORKING!!!:gaah: Mind you, when I dropped it off Saturday morning I told them to take their time with it and if they needed to keep it longer, no problem. I called Saturday afternoon about 2:30 just to check status and they said it was done. :cus: Bruiser aint to happy right now.

 

[dave01]

I opened the front cover and lo and behold, there were tools, the fuse box cover and the two access covers laying in the trunk.

Good thing those guys arent surgeons. Now where did I leave my cell phone........:roflblack::roflblack::roflblack:

No excuses for them not to have finished the job before giving it back to you.

 

[krb1945]

At least you have some "free" tools to use to complete the job they were supposed to do. Sometimes mechanics are in too much of a hurry... that's why we find nice snap-on and craftsman tools along the roadways.

On the hot oil smell the possibilities are almost endless. In addition to the items mentioned above... check the connections at the oil cooler, tank and the back side of the rear cyl valve cover. Also check the front side of the front cyl valve cover. These two areas are right over the hottest part of the headers. Ride 'em safe! Ken krb1945

 

[NancysToy]

I have a question about the oil in the airbox.
Can it be caused by overfilling the oil?

I ask this because after doing 3 oil changes I can see that it is extremely easy to overfill.

It does seem to be "enhanced" by overfilling the oil...at least on the RS.

 

[boborgera]

I have a question about the oil in the airbox.
Can it be caused by overfilling the oil?

Yes, That would do it. Over filling will [can] cause excessive crank case pressure. Then you'll get blow by among other problems.
That's why all engine manufacturers warn DO NOT OVER FILL.

 

[NancysToy]

Yes, That would do it. Over filling will [can] cause excessive crank case pressure. Then you'll get blow by among other problems.
That's why all engine manufacturers warn DO NOT OVER FILL.

True, but it is odd that it can actually happen as readily with a dry sump system, which is usually not so sensitive to oil levels. It has to be a head pressure thing with this one, with a feed/scavenge pump design that is much more sensitive than typical, to varying head pressures caused by the oil levels. That's my theory, anyway. My old Triumphs don't care, as long as there is enough oil to cover the pump inlet, and there isn't so much it covers the return line.

 

[boborgera]

My old Triumphs don't care, as long as there is enough oil to cover the pump inlet, and there isn't so much it covers the return line.

That's because most old Brit. bikes blew the extra oil out every where else before it could reach the air cleaner. :roflblack::roflblack:

 

[bruiser]

Took the :f_spider: back to the dealer this afternoon. I'm giving them another chance to make it right. I told them again to take their time. I didn't scream, jump up and down or anything like that. I was very calm while holding the pin to the grenade :yikes:. As a field rep for the last 21 years, I deal with customers every day. I've been screamed at, cussed at and even shoved. The shovee couldn't figure out how he ended up on the floor so fast. I'm not that way, I believe in giving an even break and the chance to make things right. However, if it's not done correctly this time, with a proper explanation... :cus: