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Juice box settings??

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Eddie

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What Juice Box setting runs best with the M2 Two Brothers exhaust or similar?? Just looking for ideas. The reason I have been asking these ?'s is because every since I got my Spyder it takes intermit. spells were it will spit and sputter on take off.Sometimes even has a little problem taking the gas. When it Finlay takes off. It slams you on pavement smokes the tire or in gravel goes side ways.Seems it has a hard time with a happy medium. The problem is it will not do it all the time.Just takes spells.
 
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Eddie said:
What Juice Box setting runs best with the M2 Two Brothers exhaust or similar?? Just looking for ideas.
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I'm getting over 33 mpg now...I'm running the hindle and green filter. I have found that for settings 2 and 3 that levels of 3-3.5 are fine. Setting 4 was too rich for me, so I backed it off to 3...as far as settings 5 and 6 go, I left those at 3 as well...although I might bump them up a little.

After running sub-30 mpg for some time, it was nice to tweak the JB and get some considerable changes...
 
bone crusher said:
I'm getting over 33 mpg now...I'm running the hindle and green filter. I have found that for settings 2 and 3 that levels of 3-3.5 are fine. Setting 4 was too rich for me, so I backed it off to 3...as far as settings 5 and 6 go, I left those at 3 as well...although I might bump them up a little.

After running sub-30 mpg for some time, it was nice to tweak the JB and get some considerable changes...
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You don't want to have settings 5 and 6 set to the same number!

The system will get confused and the engine will cut out on you if you're at full throttle! Dangerous. SethO told me about this after we were doing our 'testing' in Cuba. I kept having the engine stall on me (not always, but often) when going full throttle. The solution was to make the two settings different.
 
Firefly said:
You don't want to have settings 5 and 6 set to the same number!

The system will get confused and the engine will cut out on you if you're at full throttle! Dangerous. SethO told me about this after we were doing our 'testing' in Cuba. I kept having the engine stall on me (not always, but often) when going full throttle. The solution was to make the two settings different.
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Have the same problem, was wondering what was going on. Thanks for the tip. Just curious, what settings are you running.
 
:agree:Had that cutting out problem when I would be pulling out to pass and holding the throttle open.Going out now to change the last two settings .I had often wondered what was happening , bike runs great other then those times.:2thumbs:
 
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You don't want to have settings 5 and 6 set to the same number!

The system will get confused and the engine will cut out on you if you're at full throttle! Dangerous. SethO told me about this after we were doing our 'testing' in Cuba. I kept having the engine stall on me (not always, but often) when going full throttle. The solution was to make the two settings different.
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Thanks for the info...haven't had this problem but will change full throttle to 3.5 or 4...I don't full throttle too much, so I don't see this as being a major problem for the gas consumption...guess it will help acceleration a little...
 
bone crusher said:
I'm getting over 33 mpg now...I'm running the hindle and green filter. I have found that for settings 2 and 3 that levels of 3-3.5 are fine. Setting 4 was too rich for me, so I backed it off to 3...as far as settings 5 and 6 go, I left those at 3 as well...although I might bump them up a little.

After running sub-30 mpg for some time, it was nice to tweak the JB and get some considerable changes...
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After Firefly's suggestion I changed setting 5 to 2.5 and 6 to 4.5 with settings 2 at 2.5, 3 at 1 and 4 at 6. This seems to be working for me with the hindle and K&N intake. Funny thing for me is setting 2, if I go any higher than 2.5 I'm running too rich. Apparently everyones machine runs a little different even with the same or similar mods.
 
With Leo Vince, Race Intake, and O2 Modifier, I'm running pressure at 54Lbs. Juicebox at .5 2 3 5 1 .5 and it is running the best it ever has.
 
Ok correct me if I am wrong here. But' I have been reading the instructions over and over. I think it is Finlay sinking in :banghead: so my ? is Now to reach my settings I push the mode button until I get the lights I need for the setting I need?? Then I just push the + or - to make that setting richer or leaner. then I push the mode button again to get to the next setting? Is that correct???
Thanks ED
 
Eddie said:
Ok correct me if I am wrong here. But' I have been reading the instructions over and over. I think it is Finlay sinking in :banghead: so my ? is Now to reach my settings I push the mode button until I get the lights I need for the setting I need?? Then I just push the + or - to make that setting richer or leaner. then I push the mode button again to get to the next setting? Is that correct???
Thanks ED
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Correct....if you are at 3.5, both 3 and 4 will be blinking...the first setting, the green one, has no effect...hit the mode button to get past that and then dial in, as necessary...
 
tweeder said:
What do each number (2-6) represent? How do you know what to adjust?

TKS...
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2...fuel addition to throttle
3...fuel addition to max throttle
4...fuel addition to cruising (I find this one to really waste fuel)
5...fuel addition timing speed to throttle (how fast the fuel is injected when you throttle)
6...fuel addition timing speed to max throttle

You adjust based on your preferences...
 
bone crusher said:
2...fuel addition to throttle
3...fuel addition to max throttle
4...fuel addition to cruising (I find this one to really waste fuel)
5...fuel addition timing speed to throttle (how fast the fuel is injected when you throttle)
6...fuel addition timing speed to max throttle

You adjust based on your preferences...
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The way I've understood all this I would use a bit different wording:

1...not used

2...fuel addition during acceleration

3...fuel addition during max throttle

4...fuel addition to when cruising (steady throttle)

5...fuel addition timing speed for acceleration (how sensitive/quickly it determines you are accelerating)

6...fuel addition timing speed for max throttle (how sensitive/quickly it determines you are on full throttle)

For 5 & 6 the LOWER the number, the more sensitive it is-- as in it will detect your change from cruising to acceleration or full throttle quicker.

The problem many of us have run into is having 5 & 6 set to the same setting. The system gets confused and doesn't know if you are just accelerating or are on full throttle -- so it has a temporary glitch where it shuts off ALL signals and the engine stalls momentarily :yikes:. Not a fun experience when you're passing someone! The only 'cure' when this happens is to let off the throttle a bit and the engine will kick back in.

JB should have a disclaimer on this situation, or fix it so it won't do this.nojoke

At first the programming is a bit awkward, but you get used to it. Rather than use the 'color scheme' - I just count modes from 1,2,3,etc...... and you have to be kinda quick when doing it.
 
Firefly said:
The way I've understood all this I would use a bit different wording:

1...not used

2...fuel addition during acceleration

3...fuel addition during max throttle

4...fuel addition to when cruising (steady throttle)

5...fuel addition timing speed for acceleration (how sensitive/quickly it determines you are accelerating)

6...fuel addition timing speed for max throttle (how sensitive/quickly it determines you are on full throttle)

For 5 & 6 the LOWER the number, the more sensitive it is-- as in it will detect your change from cruising to acceleration or full throttle quicker.

The problem many of us have run into is having 5 & 6 set to the same setting. The system gets confused and doesn't know if you are just accelerating or are on full throttle -- so it has a temporary glitch where it shuts off ALL signals and the engine stalls momentarily :yikes:. Not a fun experience when you're passing someone! The only 'cure' when this happens is to let off the throttle a bit and the engine will kick back in.

JB should have a disclaimer on this situation, or fix it so it won't do this.nojoke

At first the programming is a bit awkward, but you get used to it. Rather than use the 'color scheme' - I just count modes from 1,2,3,etc...... and you have to be kinda quick when doing it.
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Well, exxxxccccuuuuussssseeee me! :ohyea:
 
I'm stupid but last time i did settings I did it with key on engine off,SethO corrected mine it never ran better settings are similar, my point is a reminder to myself included always adjust JB with engine running.

Jim:thumbup:
 
jedd said:
I'm stupid but last time i did settings I did it with key on engine off,SethO corrected mine it never ran better settings are similar, my point is a reminder to myself included always adjust JB with engine running.

Jim:thumbup:
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OKay, well then I messed up. If i adjusted the JB without the engine running as in moved it to mode 2-5 for starters, if i were to start the bike and move it to mode 3 for example, would it actually move to mode 3? or do i need to set it back to the pre programmed settings and start over with adjusting engine running from there?

Thank you,
Sean
 
Alright, this is going to sound stupid too I am sure. I was under the impression that each mode is its own, as in if i put the bike on mode 2, it is in mode 2? or am I to understand now, that I can change all the modes to my liking for the bike to run using all modes?

I guess I really miss read it. nojoke
 
I've just about had it with the JB---- before when I had settings 5 & 6 the same I would get the engine cutoff when trying to pass going from acceleration to WOT.

Now my problem is engine cutoff when going from WOT back to cruising.:gaah:

I can repeat this most of the time and it's not a comfortable feeling when passing someone at 90mph and then going to slow down only to have the engine cut out.nojoke
 
Fordextreme said:
OKay, well then I messed up. If i adjusted the JB without the engine running as in moved it to mode 2-5 for starters, if i were to start the bike and move it to mode 3 for example, would it actually move to mode 3? or do i need to set it back to the pre programmed settings and start over with adjusting engine running from there?

Thank you,
Sean
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You can't modify it unless the engine is on...it doesn't work otherwise...
 
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