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Noisy Brake Question....

Webhead

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Fired up the Spyder today for the first ride of the spring:yes:.....started right up and purred right away. Knowing the issues people have had with brake noise, I released the parking brake and rolled it back a forth for a few feet. There was an awful squeal coming from the back wheel - not constant, but intermittently. It felt like the bike was not rolling freely.:cus: The noise was bad enough that I was unsure whether riding it was a good idea at all :gaah:- so I came inside to ask the collective wisdom on this site.

I have absolutely no experience with brakes, so I don't even know what to look for to see what may be wrong - or if it's just a winter's worth of garage dust on the rotor. :dontknow:

Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks to all,

Steve
 
Fired up the Spyder today for the first ride of the spring:yes:.....started right up and purred right away. Knowing the issues people have had with brake noise, I released the parking brake and rolled it back a forth for a few feet. There was an awful squeal coming from the back wheel - not constant, but intermittently. It felt like the bike was not rolling freely.:cus: The noise was bad enough that I was unsure whether riding it was a good idea at all :gaah:- so I came inside to ask the collective wisdom on this site.

I have absolutely no experience with brakes, so I don't even know what to look for to see what may be wrong - or if it's just a winter's worth of garage dust on the rotor. :dontknow:

Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks to all,

Steve

Ride man ride. I find that lack of use is pretty hard on a bike. My brakes were squealing like the devil the other day after not being used much for a couple weeks. After a couple miles with a few stops the squeal was gone.
I would take it for a short ride around the neiborhood and see if it gets better. If it still squeals or feels like its dragging after a couple blocks take it back home and trouble shoot it one wheel at a time. I bet she just needs to have her legs stretched.


RAL
 
Ride man ride. I find that lack of use is pretty hard on a bike. My brakes were squealing like the devil the other day after not being used much for a couple weeks. After a couple miles with a few stops the squeal was gone.
I would take it for a short ride around the neiborhood and see if it gets better. If it still squeals or feels like its dragging after a couple blocks take it back home and trouble shoot it one wheel at a time. I bet she just needs to have her legs stretched.
:agree:
 

I agree...who cares about noisy brakes...if you go with organic pads, they'll wear out quickly and cost you more...semi-metallic are vastly superior for performance and longevity.

On that note, I think my old bmw has metallic brake pads...have never needed to replace them in over 40,000 miles...amazing..thing stops on a dime!

I do perform your 'seating' trick from time to time...accelerate, jam the brakes hard, rest a few minutes, and do it again...brakes squeal less but again, I don't care too much about that...

I'd rather have a squeal than soft brakes...
 
Fired up the Spyder today for the first ride of the spring:yes:.....started right up and purred right away. Knowing the issues people have had with brake noise, I released the parking brake and rolled it back a forth for a few feet. There was an awful squeal coming from the back wheel - not constant, but intermittently. It felt like the bike was not rolling freely.:cus: The noise was bad enough that I was unsure whether riding it was a good idea at all :gaah:- so I came inside to ask the collective wisdom on this site.

I have absolutely no experience with brakes, so I don't even know what to look for to see what may be wrong - or if it's just a winter's worth of garage dust on the rotor. :dontknow:

Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks to all,

Steve

Did you ever get a fix for this? I posted the same issue. I am not sure that those who responded understood that this is an issue of a noise that occurs in a particular point in the wheel travel while simply pushing the bike backward or forward while IN NEUTRAL. I was just out there with it now.

It involves the rear and right front. When I am rolling up to a light and just depress the clutch so as to coast (prior to applying the brake), it emits the same sound. A little embarrassing to say the least.

Carbolic
 
I have not had to re-seat the brakes (series of hard stops routine) for quite a few thousand miles and mine don't make any noise.

I personally wouldn't leave the parking brake on while storing the bike for the winter.....
 
I have not had to re-seat the brakes (series of hard stops routine) for quite a few thousand miles and mine don't make any noise.

I personally wouldn't leave the parking brake on while storing the bike for the winter.....

i don't use my parking brake at all right now...it won't release...I tried the simple fix...no go...next up, the dealer can fiddle with it, or donk, if I can get his way! I just leave it in first and lock the wheel...
 
i don't use my parking brake at all right now...it won't release...I tried the simple fix...no go...next up, the dealer can fiddle with it, or donk, if I can get his way! I just leave it in first and lock the wheel...

I don't use mine parking brake either. I had it at the dealer last week and the linkage was fine. The problem was is in the cable and they have a replacement on order.

They tried to sell me a couple of bricks to block up the rear wheel but, passed since I have plenty here.:D
 
Fired up the Spyder today for the first ride of the spring:yes:.....started right up and purred right away. Knowing the issues people have had with brake noise, I released the parking brake and rolled it back a forth for a few feet. There was an awful squeal coming from the back wheel - not constant, but intermittently. It felt like the bike was not rolling freely.:cus: The noise was bad enough that I was unsure whether riding it was a good idea at all :gaah:- so I came inside to ask the collective wisdom on this site.

I have absolutely no experience with brakes, so I don't even know what to look for to see what may be wrong - or if it's just a winter's worth of garage dust on the rotor. :dontknow:

Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks to all,

Steve

I have the same problem with brake noise, while coming to a stop and to get rid of it, I get on the brake with more pressure than what I normally use. What this does, is clean off the pads and rotors. Over time junk builds up on both and although you can't see it its there.

Living close to the Gulf of Mexico, I get this often as does my riding buddy, who has a chopper. His brakes make noise and has to do the samething.:thumbup:
 
The 09 SE...

had that same problem when cold. "She who must be obeyed" kept telling me to find out what was causing it because it was driving her nuts. So I went to work... on this particular parking brake being new the linkage was pretty stiff. So I got my can of water resistant silicone spray and lubed each joint in the linkage. Warning... Be very careful do not spray the pads or rotor only spray the joints and cable end. Then I pressed and released it several times and then lubed it some more. I didn't spray it again until after I got caught in the rain road testing it. And it hasn't squeaked or squealed since.

This may not work for everyone but it did work for this particular parking brake. /Ken
 
Brakes, including parking brakes, depend on several things for reliable, quiet operation.....cleanliness, proper adjustment, proper lubrication, sound mechanical condition, and periodic use. All disc brakes will make noise under certain conditions, though.

To keep noise of all the brakes at a minimum, and eliminate sticking of the parking brake, make sure the rotors, pads/calipers, and linkage are clean, and free of excessive brake dust or road grime buildup. CRC Brake-Kleen or an equal, plus a little compressed air, does the job best. Note that moisture will increase noise and can cause sticking, so the car wash is a bad choice here.

The parking brake should be properly adjusted, to hold solidly at just a couple of clicks. Too much slack increases the chances of sticking.

The parking brake cable and linkage need to be lubricated (after cleaning) periodically. The cable becomes more important if the adjustment allows excess slack, or if the rubber cable boot either interferes or has come off. The boot can catch and be pulled into the cable housing, causing improper release. If the brakes are serviced, brake lube should be applied to the appropriate sliding parts and any corresponding o-rings. Some are quite dry from the factory.

Naturally, the parts have to be in good mechanical condition. The pads should be within thickness tolerances and not excessively worn. The cable should be sound, and not frayed or broken, with an intact boot. The parking brake mechanism should not be damaged, and early Spyders should have the parking brake service bulletin work performed, with the appropriate parts replaced. This alone cured our sticking parking brake.

Finally, the brakes have to be used regularly. This goes for the parking brake, too. Parts set up, and get "locked-in" due to brake dust and corrosion. Then they work hard or make noise. Rust forms on rotors where the pads sit, making a tiny rough spot that causes intermittent noise. Corrosion can form on the sliding parts of the caliper, or dust can build up a ridge and turn hard in time. Pads can even rust to the rotors under storage, although organic pads are better than semi-metallic in this regard. Using the brakes hard, from a reasonably hig speed, scuffs off these minor imperfections, accumulated brake dust, and glazed areas on the pads, and can improve braking and reduce noise if done periodically after the machine is broken in.

If all else fails, there are products on the market that can be appied to the rotors for a short fix, or other products that can be applied to cushion the backs of the pads, for a lasting solution, to reduce the noise.
 
100 percent correct...

Scotty is correct the linkages need to be kept clean. I use the brake cleaner spray. Then I use the dry silicone to lube the moving parts.

I also use compressed air to blow every thing off after washing it down with brake cleaner. It is a good idea to do this cleaning outside. When you use the air pressure you may want to use a dust mask. I keep hearing the brake dust like many other things is definitely not good for your lungs. Yes... you washed it down with the brake cleaner but there is still dust somewhere in that area. Be safe and be nice to your lungs.:thumbup: /Ken
 
Brakes, including parking brakes, depend on several things for reliable, quiet operation.....cleanliness, proper adjustment, proper lubrication, sound mechanical condition, and periodic use. All disc brakes will make noise under certain conditions, though.

To keep noise of all the brakes at a minimum, and eliminate sticking of the parking brake, make sure the rotors, pads/calipers, and linkage are clean, and free of excessive brake dust or road grime buildup. CRC Brake-Kleen or an equal, plus a little compressed air, does the job best. Note that moisture will increase noise and can cause sticking, so the car wash is a bad choice here.

The parking brake should be properly adjusted, to hold solidly at just a couple of clicks. Too much slack increases the chances of sticking.

The parking brake cable and linkage need to be lubricated (after cleaning) periodically. The cable becomes more important if the adjustment allows excess slack, or if the rubber cable boot either interferes or has come off. The boot can catch and be pulled into the cable housing, causing improper release. If the brakes are serviced, brake lube should be applied to the appropriate sliding parts and any corresponding o-rings. Some are quite dry from the factory.

Naturally, the parts have to be in good mechanical condition. The pads should be within thickness tolerances and not excessively worn. The cable should be sound, and not frayed or broken, with an intact boot. The parking brake mechanism should not be damaged, and early Spyders should have the parking brake service bulletin work performed, with the appropriate parts replaced. This alone cured our sticking parking brake.

Finally, the brakes have to be used regularly. This goes for the parking brake, too. Parts set up, and get "locked-in" due to brake dust and corrosion. Then they work hard or make noise. Rust forms on rotors where the pads sit, making a tiny rough spot that causes intermittent noise. Corrosion can form on the sliding parts of the caliper, or dust can build up a ridge and turn hard in time. Pads can even rust to the rotors under storage, although organic pads are better than semi-metallic in this regard. Using the brakes hard, from a reasonably hig speed, scuffs off these minor imperfections, accumulated brake dust, and glazed areas on the pads, and can improve braking and reduce noise if done periodically after the machine is broken in.

If all else fails, there are products on the market that can be appied to the rotors for a short fix, or other products that can be applied to cushion the backs of the pads, for a lasting solution, to reduce the noise.

Yep- Used the CRC- Worked fine- time will tell...
 
Brake squeal,, I tried every method but ONE posted to stop the squeal.
Some work for a while, But after sounding like a garbage truck stopping one time to many, I tried the one thing i didn't think would work.
CRG De Squeak [not the cleaner] Two weeks 500+ miles no squeal.
Who ever posted to use De Squeak Thank you. [ so far :pray: ].
 
had that same problem when cold. "She who must be obeyed" kept telling me to find out what was causing it because it was driving her nuts. So I went to work... on this particular parking brake being new the linkage was pretty stiff. So I got my can of water resistant silicone spray and lubed each joint in the linkage. Warning... Be very careful do not spray the pads or rotor only spray the joints and cable end. Then I pressed and released it several times and then lubed it some more. I didn't spray it again until after I got caught in the rain road testing it. And it hasn't squeaked or squealed since.

This may not work for everyone but it did work for this particular parking brake. /Ken

Living so close to the Gulf of Mexico, I worry a lot about corrosion and for me that could have contributed to my parking brake cable problem. A few weeks ago, while at my dealership, I was talking to Leo the service manager about it and we went out to the showroom. He handed me a can of XP-S. It's an Anti-Corrosive Lubricant. I sprayed it on everything but the brake pads and rotors. I used it the engine once it cooled off and the radiator.
They use this stuff on the engines Sea-Doo's and its a BRP product that you can only get at your dealership.
I've also used it on my boat trailer, guns, AC wall and window units and certain truck parts. What it does is suck the moisture out of the metal and as soon as I get the new parking brake cable, I'll spray some in both ends, being vewy vewy careful not to get any on the rotor.

I did my best to drive "She who must be obeyed, Nuts!" and it worked out great.:D:D:D Moving to a Target Rich Enviornment!:thumbup:
 
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