What would be causing this Parking brake failure message?

[Rogue1]

I have changed out the brake switch and spring and still have the failure message. Brake fluid has been topped off. What else could be causing the message? Is there a reset sequence for the error code maybe?

 

[Easy Rider]

I have changed out the brake switch and spring and still have the failure message. Brake fluid has been topped off. What else could be causing the message? Is there a reset sequence for the error code maybe?

More info is necessary.

Does the brake failure message really specify the PARKING brake ?
Is your parking brake actually stuck ON or OFF ?

The most common parking brake failure is the parking brake motor/solenoid.

Knowing the model and year might help.
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[Rogue1]

It just says Brake Failure - 2009 Gs

 

[Easy Rider]

It just says Brake Failure - 2009 Gs

Well that does NOT necessarily mean "parking" brake.

Is there an obvious problem with the parking brake??

I think you need BUDS connected to read all the codes present.

 

[Rogue1]

Parking brake works fine. Only electrical connection that would trigger a code for brakes is the parking brake switch. Dealer told me there are no sensors at the brakes themselves. So we both figured it was switch.

 

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Parking brake works fine. Only electrical connection that would trigger a code for brakes is the parking brake switch. Dealer told me there are no sensors at the brakes themselves. So we both figured it was switch.

IMHO ….. If you have any brake message it is usually due to LOW Fluid ….. correcting that may solve your issue ….. for a complete RE-BOOT disconnect the battery for 10min. ….. good luck ….. Mike hyea:

 

[Rogue1]

Thanks. Fluid has been topped. Off. Will try the battery

 

[billybovine]

The dealer told you there are no sensors in the brakes! That there is just too funny!:roflblack:

Stop guessing and get the active fault code. You posted in the GS/RS forum so I will guess that is what you have. You do not tell us the year and that could make a difference. So the most likely way to get the fault code would be. With the fault active on the screen.

With engine running. Press the mode button repeatedly until "engine hours" (total hours) shows on display. Make sure you do not release the mode button when you get to "engine hours"
While still holding the mode button. Flash high beams 5 times within 2 seconds.
If there are no active faults "No Active Fault Code" will be displayed.
If there is an active fault, an alphanumeric code will be displayed.
If there are more than one active code, you may press MODE to cycle through them.

By your description it sounds like a low pressure fault. Usual cause is old brake fluid. If it is there is a way to clear the fault.

Disconnecting the battery is a waste of time and effort.

 

[Rogue1]

This is my first time on the forums and have received good info. I will try the codes now. I have an 09gs.

 

[Haikanko]

This is my first time on the forums and have received good info. I will try the codes now. I have an 09gs.

I had the same thing the day I bought mine - to cancel the message is a strange thing

Turn on ignition and then stand and I mean stand on the brake pedal until you hear a second click - first one is the brake light - it worked for me

 

[Rogue1]

C0049. Shows brake fluid level or sensors. Level is full. Don't know how to check resistance on the sensors to see if they work.

Not sure what else to look for here. The 2 plastic probe type sensors are in place under the reservoir but sit loose. May be normal. Don't see how those work.

 

[billybovine]

Well now you know it is a brake fluid level sensor issue and you can concentrate on that. Make sure the magnet is still attached to the float. Make sure the sensor is fully seated on the back of the reservoir.

 

[Rogue1]

I think you guys nailed this mystery for me. The code is not showing now. I topped off the reservoir all the way up till it overflowed. The code still showed. Back half of reservoir never moved in height. I topped it off as well. No code. Am I to assume the reservoir is a 2 compartments?

 

[billybovine]

I think you guys nailed this mystery for me. The code is not showing now. I topped off the reservoir all the way up till it overflowed. The code still showed. Back half of reservoir never moved in height. I topped it off as well. No code. Am I to assume the reservoir is a 2 compartments?

Yes it is. The rear is for the front brakes and the front is for the rear brakes. That's why there are 2 caps to fill as well. So now you have to clean up all the extra brake fluid. It will strip paint. Brake fluid is water soluble, so it's easy enough to clean up.

 

[Rogue1]

Done. Thanks for all the help. Really not sure why the dealer didn't even suggest this or know how to get the code to figure it out? I've been dealing with this since October!

 

[Easy Rider]

Parking brake works fine. Only electrical connection that would trigger a code for brakes is the parking brake switch. Dealer told me there are no sensors at the brakes themselves. So we both figured it was switch.

WHAT YEAR AND MODEL DO YOU HAVE?

Unless maybe you have the first Spyder ever built, I'm pretty sure that is absolutely, positively FALSE.
I think you need a different dealer.
For instance, I had a brake failure indicator come on because I was "riding the brake" a little.

Am I to assume the reservoir is a 2 compartments?

Yes. BUT having it WAY overfilled can cause problems too.

And given what you have now discovered, I KNOW that you need a different Spyder shop.

 

[spyderman504]

The dealer told you there are no sensors in the brakes! That there is just too funny!:roflblack:

Stop guessing and get the active fault code. You posted in the GS/RS forum so I will guess that is what you have. You do not tell us the year and that could make a difference. So the most likely way to get the fault code would be. With the fault active on the screen.

With engine running. Press the mode button repeatedly until "engine hours" (total hours) shows on display. Make sure you do not release the mode button when you get to "engine hours"
While still holding the mode button. Flash high beams 5 times within 2 seconds.
If there are no active faults "No Active Fault Code" will be displayed.
If there is an active fault, an alphanumeric code will be displayed.
If there are more than one active code, you may press MODE to cycle through them.

By your description it sounds like a low pressure fault. Usual cause is old brake fluid. If it is there is a way to clear the fault.

Disconnecting the battery is a waste of time and effort.

Mine is a 2009 Spyder SE5 GS and I'm having the same issue. The brake fluid is old and it’s full, I haven’t ridden it in 9 months.

Ok the code is OC 1282

 

[Mikey]

Mine is a 2009 Spyder SE5 GS and I'm having the same issue. The brake fluid is old and it’s full, I haven’t ridden it in 9 months.

Even tho this thread was made in 2019, you say the brake is full - all of us on here have heard that before! But how full is it really, and how do you switches look in the reservoirs? You want to make sure that the floats aren't hanging up in their holders, push them down a little and make sure they work well. As far as full, on a flat floor, is the fluid just touching the bottom of the neck on the downhill side of the tank? Most of the time, only just a cap full of added fluid will shut the light off! Good luck!!

Code 1282 is calling out low pressure, so you may need to do a brake flush and unhook the battery for 10 minutes. That may clear the codes, or you will have to find someone with BUDS to reset it! Again, double check what I said first, then do the rest! Good luck!

 

[spyderman504]

on here have heard that before! But how full is it really, and how do you switches look in the reservoirs? You want to make sure that the floats aren't hanging up in their holders, push them down a little and make sure they work well. As far as full, on a flat floor, is the fluid just touching the bottom of the neck on the downhill side of the tank? Most of the time, only just a cap full of added fluid will shut the light off! Good luck!!
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It’s to the bottom of the neck in both reservoirs.

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Code 1282 is calling out low pressure, so you may need to do a brake flush and unhook the battery for 10 minutes. That may clear the codes, or you will have to find someone with BUDS to reset it! Again, double check what I said first, then do the rest! Good luck!

OK, I will try that. Do you have a video on how to flush it out? Thanks.

 

[Mikey]

OK, I will try that. Do you have a video on how to flush it out? Thanks.

You tube is your friend!