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RIDE-ON "vs" SLIME

The only question in my mind is why would they not mention that the auto formula won't harm alloy wheels?

From the instructions for auto formula:
WHEEL PROTECTION. Ride-On is non-flammable and chemically inert – it will not degrade either your tires
or your wheels. Ride-On contains corrosion inhibitors that help to protect tire belts and steel, aluminum,
and alloy wheels against corrosion.:thumbup:

http://www.ride-onshop.com/auto_formula_installation.pdf
 
I have been using Ride On in my motorcycle tires for a number of years. The shop that changed tires for me would not do it if Slime was used but had no problem with Ride On in the tires. Not nearly as messy they said, and I'm not positive but I believe Ride On cleans up with water where Slime does not.

Dennis In MD
The Krusty Old Phart
Stil turnin' burnin' and lurnin'
2008 Yellow SE5

Hey, where ya at in MD? I think there are a few of us out there somewhere...I saw a yellow Spyder on 70 going east between Frederick and Baltimore...you in that area?
 
I just read thru the site myself since I plan to use it on my new rear tire that has not been balanced. I read the descriptions side be side for the Auto, Motorcyle and even bicycle formulas. Only the MC and Bike formulas mention corrosion inhibitors. The MC formula is sold in 8oz bottles, the auto in 16oz, each $15 a bottle. I would much rather get twice as much for my money, since the rear tire alone will require about two of the 8 oz bottles.

Does anyone know for sure that the auto formula has corrosion inhibitors? I think the auto formula is more suited for the Spyder. For the balancing, the Spyder does not lean like a 2 wheeler or bicycle, and the rear tire is basically an auto tire. The only question in my mind is why would they not mention that the auto formula won't harm alloy wheels?

Lamont, is that auto or MC formula in yours?

When you call, ask for George Burns (like the comedian)...he's a great guy and has all the info you need. He recommends the auto for the Spyder and the auto can be used in 2 wheelers as well...just an issue of viscosity...

As far as the wheel weights go, the Ride-on will balance the tires but he said that I don't have to take the weights off...that's fine by me.

He's really helpful and great to speak with. I bought the 4 bottle set of the Ride-on and Lamont's 10% off really helps as well (thanks Lamont). The extra will go into a bike of a staff member.
 
As far as the wheel weights go, the Ride-on will balance the tires but he said that I don't have to take the weights off...that's fine by me.

You make a good point here. If you are just putting Ride-On into your tire, not changing tires, and your balance is pretty good it probably is best to leave the weights on. That way you're asking less of the Ride-On in the way of balancing.

But when you put a new tire on I would recommend taking the weights off as they can actually add to an out of balance issue.
 
But when you put a new tire on I would recommend taking the weights off as they can actually add to an out of balance issue.

Ron, going by the directions, wouldn't a new tire get rebalanced:dontknow:? Then add the Rideon?

Just curious to your thoughts, not poking.:doorag:
 
You make a good point here. If you are just putting Ride-On into your tire, not changing tires, and your balance is pretty good it probably is best to leave the weights on. That way you're asking less of the Ride-On in the way of balancing.

But when you put a new tire on I would recommend taking the weights off as they can actually add to an out of balance issue.

Yeah, I wasn't sure about the weights...George said no concern but did point out that some states now do not allow lead weights...the Ride-On would be very good for those people...

I won't be ready for new tires for some time...on that note, he said never to reuse the product...he gave a few reasons for that...primarily, it does, like helmets any most other things (including rubber), have an 'expiration date'...
 
Ron, going by the directions, wouldn't a new tire get rebalanced:dontknow:? Then add the Rideon?

Just curious to your thoughts, not poking.:doorag:

The short response would be "You are right". Especially if we are talking about big wheels and tires like a lifted 4x4 truck.

But if we are talking about the 3 wheels/tires on the Spyder my opinion is that balancing is an unnecessary expense that won't provide any benefit.

I was doubtful that Ride-On alone would balance Lamonts rear tire. He had a ton of wheel weights on his. I wish I could remember how much. He had twice as many squares as I did (10) and they were heavier squares as well.

But we stripped off the weights and put Ride-On in and it balanced perfectly! I knew mine would be no sweat after that.

Ride-On is like any other manufacturer. They will recommend the best possible course of action even if it is overkill for your particular application. You can't blame them. They have no way of knowing what wheel/tire you have or how much balance you'll need. They don't want to claim their product will cure all balance issues because it won't.

Restricting my response to small wheels and tires like we have on the Spyder, my experience is that, except for bad out of balance situations, Ride-On will do as good or better job of balancing than weights alone, with or without the weights. This is because Ride-On is dynamic (constantly adjusts to the conditions) whereas wheel weights are static.

Some people get the wrong idea because a dynamic wheel balancer is used to determine how much and where to put the static weight. But the end result is still static (lead weights stuck to the rim).

Because weights are static your wheel will be balanced at some speeds and less balanced at other speeds. There is no way around it. With Ride-On you will get balancing at any speed.

As the tire wears, balance is affected. With wheel weights alone you may require another balance or you get increased tire wear.

But your question concerns wheel weights plus Ride-On. In the case of our Spyders, balancing the wheel with weights and then putting Ride-On in certainly won't hurt, but the weights are most likely unnecessary. If the wheel/tire is so out of balance that Ride-On can't fix it, it is very likely that a serious issue is causing the problem, like out of round, cord seperation, etc.

I have heard that some balancing machines have trouble mounting our wheels (I don't know because I've never had mine balanced). But if this is true, even more benefit to using Ride-On.
 
The short response would be "You are right". Especially if we are talking about big wheels and tires like a lifted 4x4 truck.

But if we are talking about the 3 wheels/tires on the Spyder my opinion is that balancing is an unnecessary expense that won't provide any benefit.

I was doubtful that Ride-On alone would balance Lamonts rear tire. He had a ton of wheel weights on his. I wish I could remember how much. He had twice as many squares as I did (10) and they were heavier squares as well.

But we stripped off the weights and put Ride-On in and it balanced perfectly! I knew mine would be no sweat after that.

Ride-On is like any other manufacturer. They will recommend the best possible course of action even if it is overkill for your particular application. You can't blame them. They have no way of knowing what wheel/tire you have or how much balance you'll need. They don't want to claim their product will cure all balance issues because it won't.

Restricting my response to small wheels and tires like we have on the Spyder, my experience is that, except for bad out of balance situations, Ride-On will do as good or better job of balancing than weights alone, with or without the weights. This is because Ride-On is dynamic (constantly adjusts to the conditions) whereas wheel weights are static.

Some people get the wrong idea because a dynamic wheel balancer is used to determine how much and where to put the static weight. But the end result is still static (lead weights stuck to the rim).

Because weights are static your wheel will be balanced at some speeds and less balanced at other speeds. There is no way around it. With Ride-On you will get balancing at any speed.

As the tire wears, balance is affected. With wheel weights alone you may require another balance or you get increased tire wear.

But your question concerns wheel weights plus Ride-On. In the case of our Spyders, balancing the wheel with weights and then putting Ride-On in certainly won't hurt, but the weights are most likely unnecessary. If the wheel/tire is so out of balance that Ride-On can't fix it, it is very likely that a serious issue is causing the problem, like out of round, cord seperation, etc.

I have heard that some balancing machines have trouble mounting our wheels (I don't know because I've never had mine balanced). But if this is true, even more benefit to using Ride-On.

Got my Ride-on today...now need some warm weather to put it in and ride...might have to wait a bit for this!...looking forward to installing though...
 
Got my Ride-on today...now need some warm weather to put it in and ride...might have to wait a bit for this!...looking forward to installing though...

There are several good ways to warm the Ride-On so it goes in more easily. You don't have to ride it after you put it in like some products.
 
There are several good ways to warm the Ride-On so it goes in more easily. You don't have to ride it after you put it in like some products.

Cool...George said to ride it for a little while after you put it in to spread it...if those with experience here haven't had the need for that, then all I need is some time and a warm day (more so as my garage is cold...not too worried about the product...am keeping it indoors, for now)...

I'm a bit afraid I'll break the darn valve stem core, but apparently, with the tool, it's easy enough to take out, squeeze the stuff in, and then put the core back in and pump up?
 
Cool...George said to ride it for a little while after you put it in to spread it...if those with experience here haven't had the need for that, then all I need is some time and a warm day (more so as my garage is cold...not too worried about the product...am keeping it indoors, for now)...

I'm a bit afraid I'll break the darn valve stem core, but apparently, with the tool, it's easy enough to take out, squeeze the stuff in, and then put the core back in and pump up?

You don't have to ride immediately after putting in the Ride-On but, when it's first put in the tires, it will be pooled at the bottom. Just know that the first ride after putting it in the tires, there will be about 20 minutes of initial ride time to allow the Ride-On to spread out evenly inside the tire. It's easiest to get that ride done right after putting the Ride-On in when you can do it at controlled speeds, road and traffic conditions instead of waiting until you have to go somewhere and then experiencing the harsher ride in stop and go traffic or doing 80 down the expressway.

Breaking the valve core shouldn't be a concern. Losing it would be more of what I would worry about. If you take it out with pressure in the tire, the escaping air can shoot it out of your hands and it's so small, it's easily lost. Either be very careful when removing it under pressure or deflate the tire before removing the core.
 
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And if the Spyder has been sitting for some time and it's real cold it will be way out of balance until you put a few miles on it. Had that happen to me in Daytona after not riding it for months. :shocked: It's all good now. :doorag:
 
Thanks, Good points & well taken. Time to order Rideon.:thumbup:

The short response would be "You are right". Especially if we are talking about big wheels and tires like a lifted 4x4 truck.

But if we are talking about the 3 wheels/tires on the Spyder my opinion is that balancing is an unnecessary expense that won't provide any benefit.

I was doubtful that Ride-On alone would balance Lamonts rear tire. He had a ton of wheel weights on his. I wish I could remember how much. He had twice as many squares as I did (10) and they were heavier squares as well.

But we stripped off the weights and put Ride-On in and it balanced perfectly! I knew mine would be no sweat after that.

Ride-On is like any other manufacturer. They will recommend the best possible course of action even if it is overkill for your particular application. You can't blame them. They have no way of knowing what wheel/tire you have or how much balance you'll need. They don't want to claim their product will cure all balance issues because it won't.

Restricting my response to small wheels and tires like we have on the Spyder, my experience is that, except for bad out of balance situations, Ride-On will do as good or better job of balancing than weights alone, with or without the weights. This is because Ride-On is dynamic (constantly adjusts to the conditions) whereas wheel weights are static.

Some people get the wrong idea because a dynamic wheel balancer is used to determine how much and where to put the static weight. But the end result is still static (lead weights stuck to the rim).

Because weights are static your wheel will be balanced at some speeds and less balanced at other speeds. There is no way around it. With Ride-On you will get balancing at any speed.

As the tire wears, balance is affected. With wheel weights alone you may require another balance or you get increased tire wear.

But your question concerns wheel weights plus Ride-On. In the case of our Spyders, balancing the wheel with weights and then putting Ride-On in certainly won't hurt, but the weights are most likely unnecessary. If the wheel/tire is so out of balance that Ride-On can't fix it, it is very likely that a serious issue is causing the problem, like out of round, cord seperation, etc.

I have heard that some balancing machines have trouble mounting our wheels (I don't know because I've never had mine balanced). But if this is true, even more benefit to using Ride-On.
 
Cool...George said to ride it for a little while after you put it in to spread it...if those with experience here haven't had the need for that, then all I need is some time and a warm day (more so as my garage is cold...not too worried about the product...am keeping it indoors, for now)...

I'm a bit afraid I'll break the darn valve stem core, but apparently, with the tool, it's easy enough to take out, squeeze the stuff in, and then put the core back in and pump up?

I should clarify my ("not necessary to ride right away after putting Ride-On in) statement.

Some liquid sealers must be ridden right away or they may coagulate at the bottom and will never disperse. If this happens it has to be removed or you'll never get balance.

It is best to ride Ride-On right away because it will disperse more readily than if you allow it to lay in the bottom of the tire for several days. But even if you do allow it to pool for long periods it will still disperse and balance the tire. It may take a few miles though.

Sorry if I mislead anyone on this.
 
Question ref ide-On

I have taken down a Ride-On wheel and the wheel was fine. :doorag:

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Lamont,

When you "dismount" a front tire to switch it, do you add any more Ride-on or do you just put it on the other wheel and let 'er run? I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything important about the tire swap. Haven't seen anything about cleaning it out and replacing it, just making sure.
Thanks
:bowdown:Tuck
 
Need to remove tire?

Do you guys need to remove the tires to put ride-on into the tires, especially the rear tire, since it quite hard to get to the valve?
 
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