Looking at the rear wheel got me thinking about a flat? Many years ago, when I lived in the UK, I used ultra-seal in the tires and it did work. I can't find it for sale here in Poland, but a friend has found a type of slime that will do the same (to be put in before you get a flat). I used Ultra-Seal on a BMW LT 1200 and it gave a very slight wobble at around 5 - 8 mph but nothing after that, and as I was riding from Newcastle, England to the center of France and had to catch a ferry, a flat was not a good idea, and it did work then. I hope to ride the Spyder from Poland through Germany and into France this year, and a flat on the front would not be good, but worse on the back, where it could cause problems, so I will fit the slime before I go. If anyone has used this on a Spyder I would love to get your thoughts on how it worked out. Thanks (Jock).
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Anyone tried Slime in the Rear wheel? How did it work?
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Little Blue
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I have not used it (Slime) in my Spyder.
I did use it in my riding mower.
My tire shop said that they don't recommend doing it in any tire.
Why, because it makes a big mess when they service the tire. They charged me a $20 shop fee. Also the manager said that he would not do it again. They now have a sign posted about this issue.
I saw the mess and must agree with him.
Just wanted you to know.
You can do what makes you happy.
Everything is good for now.
I did use it in my riding mower.
My tire shop said that they don't recommend doing it in any tire.
Why, because it makes a big mess when they service the tire. They charged me a $20 shop fee. Also the manager said that he would not do it again. They now have a sign posted about this issue.
I saw the mess and must agree with him.
Just wanted you to know.
You can do what makes you happy.
Everything is good for now.
Mikey
Well-known member
There is such a thing as over thinking a subject and worrying way too much! If you're worrying about being stuck beside the road, carry a plug kit and pump, and worry about the poor guy that has to spend an hour cleaning the mess of the crap you put in your tire! It would be a last-ditch effort before I used it in my tire and defiantly wouldn't use it as a preventive measure.
BajaRon
Well-known member
Do not use Slime in any high speed tire. It will give you loads of grief and you'll have to remove the tire and clean it out. Use Ride-On. I recommend using the car tire formula and not the motorcycle formula. Ride-On originally recommended the car tire formula. Made sense because the Spyder uses car tires. But for some unknown reason, they now recommend the motorcycle tire formula. I've tried both. The car tire formula, not surprisingly, works better on the Spyder.
I think they are recommending the motorcycle formula because the auto/suv formula is impossible to find. I looked for months on their site and it was always out of stock. i wanted the auto because it is thinner making it better for balancing and not as good for repair of a leak. My bike recently sat for 21 days and it was low 40F when I started the ride. I expected a smooth out period but did not notice anything.
BajaRon
Well-known member
Ride-On doesn't make a mess. We change a lot of tires here at the shop. Never an issue with Ride-On. It stays put in the center of the tire.
We prefer glass beads over ceramic. They tend to retain their shape and size better. We use beads too large to get stuck in the valve stem. Of course these must be installed before seating the tire as you can't put them in through the valve stem. But it's no big deal for us to break the bead on one side. Pop in the beads and reseat the tire.
Of course, beads will not seal a leak.
Lead weights require a balancer which most do not have. Nor will attached weights maintain balance over time as the tire wears. Each method has it's advantages and disadvantages.
StalkyTracker
Member
Currently I am not using any balancer, but have used Ride-On for years on my two wheelers. I change my own tires and have never had an issue with Ride-On while changing a tire. BUT, if you leave the tire standing vertical over in the corner of the garage the Ride-On will loose its grip after a few months and plop down on the floor. It does clean out nicely with a garden hose and water, though.
Jackhartjr
Active member
My tire guy, after I brought a tire in with slime, told me that if I ever used it again, he would bury me next to Jimmy Hoffa! It's just plain messy!
troop
Well-known member
I was actually told the opposite from a Ride-On tech (Harry). He said the motorcycle formula is more viscous than the auto formula. Go figure ...
racoon
Well-known member
I have not used it (Slime) in my Spyder.
I did use it in my riding mower.
My tire shop said that they don't recommend doing it in any tire.
Why, because it makes a big mess when they service the tire. They charged me a $20 shop fee. Also the manager said that he would not do it again. They now have a sign posted about this issue.
I saw the mess and must agree with him.
Just wanted you to know.
You can do what makes you happy.
Everything is good for now.
Thanks for the advice, but as the Spyder's back wheel could cause a problem out on the road, not having a flat is what I am looking for. I did 6 thou with untla seal in the back tire of my BMW, and yes, it was a bit more work for them, but I feel it's worth it. Enjoy the ride,
The problem here in Europe is the police; they send out a truck to remove you from the motorway, you are not permitted to do any work, and it's very, very expensive, like 500 or more euros, so not having a flat is a very good idea!
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Outtomunch
Member
That's why I have breakdown recovery.
I have to say, I prefer to carry a tyre plug kit. I've not had a tubeless motorcycle tyre (yet) that it's not sorted, and I have even used it successfully on my car (which I guess is more pertinent to the OP).
BajaRon
Well-known member
Here is the main difference between the MC Ride-On and the Car Tire formula. Motorcycle tires have a relatively small amount of air keeping them inflated. Plus, to get a flat on 2 wheels is much more dangerous and usually much quicker deflation than a car tire. So, a quick seal is primary with the MC formula. There is also much less rotating mass to balance.
The car formula prioritizes balance as quick sealing is not as important with the much larger volume of air and a flat is not as serious a safety hazard when you have more than 2 wheels.
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