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Is there a non-OEM Fuel Filter alternative for an F3?
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SPYD3R
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John;
I'm sure Walmarts or any automotive store carries something close to this:
This is the OEM FILTER, and it's nothing special, it's an OTC filter and should be available at most all auto supply outlets.
Get ready to tear the entire top off your F3 to get to this little bugger, it's located under the top cowl, just to the right side of the gas filler cap.
Have fun...
Dan P
SPYD3R
I'm sure Walmarts or any automotive store carries something close to this:
This is the OEM FILTER, and it's nothing special, it's an OTC filter and should be available at most all auto supply outlets.
Get ready to tear the entire top off your F3 to get to this little bugger, it's located under the top cowl, just to the right side of the gas filler cap.
Have fun...
Dan P
SPYD3R
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Freddy
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Old-ish thread but new to me.
Yesterday I had the wonderful experience of spending almost 6 hours replacing the fuel filter on a friend's 2017 SM6 after the trike 'played up' under him a few days earlier. He was cruising at hi-way speed when the engine began to lose power intermittently. He pulled over, it was idling ok and his friend stopped to see what was wrong. He switched it off to explain to him what had happened. Restarted ok and rode about 15 min home. He contacted me and I told him it was probably a blocked fuel filter, as the fuel we get in my neck of the woods is known to block fuel filters - some more than others. He wanted to ride the trike on Sunday but didn't want to risk trouble, so I agreed to replace the filter; trouble was the nearest one was 420 km (300 miles) away. Not to worry, as I had previously fitted a larger filter to my old GS. As SPYD3R noted above it's located under the top cowl, just to the right side of the gas filler cap but 6 inches forward of it. All the plastic from the coolant access cover, up to and including the seats must come off to get to 'the little bugger.'
Unfortunately, the Ryco Z200 that I fitted to my GS is tooo big to fit there, so off I go in search of a smaller diameter filter with 8mm barb fittings. 2hrs later and no luck, so I got a length of high-pressure fuel hose and relocated the Z200 onto top of the tank on the left side of the fuel filler. I also removed the fuel pump assembly to check the suction screen as it is easy to remove with all the plastic still off. The screen was clean and appeared to be a relatively coarse 'tea bag' type. With the filter connected and the pump back in, I started the engine and ran it for a min or 2 to check for leaks - all good. Back on with all the plastic and several different sizes of screws, all of which have different size torx or allen heads - how frustrating.
Pic of a cut open, blocked filter to follow. Trike has done 48,000km. Why oh why wasn't it located in an easily access place??? It is a service item after all!!!
Yesterday I had the wonderful experience of spending almost 6 hours replacing the fuel filter on a friend's 2017 SM6 after the trike 'played up' under him a few days earlier. He was cruising at hi-way speed when the engine began to lose power intermittently. He pulled over, it was idling ok and his friend stopped to see what was wrong. He switched it off to explain to him what had happened. Restarted ok and rode about 15 min home. He contacted me and I told him it was probably a blocked fuel filter, as the fuel we get in my neck of the woods is known to block fuel filters - some more than others. He wanted to ride the trike on Sunday but didn't want to risk trouble, so I agreed to replace the filter; trouble was the nearest one was 420 km (300 miles) away. Not to worry, as I had previously fitted a larger filter to my old GS. As SPYD3R noted above it's located under the top cowl, just to the right side of the gas filler cap but 6 inches forward of it. All the plastic from the coolant access cover, up to and including the seats must come off to get to 'the little bugger.'
Unfortunately, the Ryco Z200 that I fitted to my GS is tooo big to fit there, so off I go in search of a smaller diameter filter with 8mm barb fittings. 2hrs later and no luck, so I got a length of high-pressure fuel hose and relocated the Z200 onto top of the tank on the left side of the fuel filler. I also removed the fuel pump assembly to check the suction screen as it is easy to remove with all the plastic still off. The screen was clean and appeared to be a relatively coarse 'tea bag' type. With the filter connected and the pump back in, I started the engine and ran it for a min or 2 to check for leaks - all good. Back on with all the plastic and several different sizes of screws, all of which have different size torx or allen heads - how frustrating.
Pic of a cut open, blocked filter to follow. Trike has done 48,000km. Why oh why wasn't it located in an easily access place??? It is a service item after all!!!
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TheMariner
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Hey Freddy, would you mind measuring the old OEM filter's length & diameter. It would really help in sourcing a suitably sized replacement.
Thanks Mate :thumbup:
Thanks Mate :thumbup:
Freddy
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You won't find a metal one except from a dealer.
diameter 35mm; body length 55; barb fittings 8
http://www.nfhconnect.com/Lookup/PartDetail?Part=133319&Brand=NAP&hb=688
The Ryco Z200 has about 4 times the capacity of filter material compared top the stock item.
Udate: Owner took his F3 for a 60km run this morning and reports best it's gone for a long time. :2thumbs:
diameter 35mm; body length 55; barb fittings 8
http://www.nfhconnect.com/Lookup/PartDetail?Part=133319&Brand=NAP&hb=688
The Ryco Z200 has about 4 times the capacity of filter material compared top the stock item.
Udate: Owner took his F3 for a 60km run this morning and reports best it's gone for a long time. :2thumbs:
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TheMariner
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Thanks Mate 
Found a local supplier of WIX 33095 for around $45 delivered. I wonder if a re-route of the fuel lines to put the filter in a more accessible location might be time well spent :dontknow:
Found a local supplier of WIX 33095 for around $45 delivered. I wonder if a re-route of the fuel lines to put the filter in a more accessible location might be time well spent :dontknow:
Freddy
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Thanks Mate
It certainly would - down on the right side of the eng/trans with a few good quality hose clamps and a metre of 8mm fuel injection hose from Repco or Supercheap.
TheMariner
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Hmmmmm.... might look into getting one of these:
https://www.proflow.com.au/billet-inline-aluminium-fuel-filter-5-16-barb-blac
and give that a go.
https://www.proflow.com.au/billet-inline-aluminium-fuel-filter-5-16-barb-blac
and give that a go.
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Freddy
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Here's the guts of the filter showing the black contaminant on the white filter paper we commonly see in fuel filters hereabouts.
When removed, blowing thru the filter by the mouth is quite restricted but if allowed to dry out, you can blow thru it with less restriction - which is no help at all.
When removed, blowing thru the filter by the mouth is quite restricted but if allowed to dry out, you can blow thru it with less restriction - which is no help at all.
Freddy
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Hmmmmm.... might look into getting one of these:
https://www.proflow.com.au/billet-inline-aluminium-fuel-filter-5-16-barb-blac
and give that a go.
Looks about the same size as the stock filter, but if it's easy to access.....
TheMariner
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Freddy
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And it screws apart for cleaning the sintered bronze filter element
I wonder if that would be fine enough to catch all the crud. Paper is probably finer. The larger Z200 will hold much more, plus cleanable filters are false economy in my opinion.
TheMariner
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That's a good point. I did some more digging & 10 micron is about the recommended pore size for after fuel pump filters, so even the finest 30 micron filter ProFlow offer is probably too big. Back to Plan A... move the filter into an easier location with more space & fit a paper one.
Spyderman2018
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That's friggin ridiculous!! Chalk up another one for engineers who never actually work on their own equipment.....Old-ish thread but new to me.
Yesterday I had the wonderful experience of spending almost 6 hours replacing the fuel filter on a friend's 2017 SM6 after the trike 'played up' under him a few days earlier. He was cruising at hi-way speed when the engine began to lose power intermittently. He pulled over, it was idling ok and his friend stopped to see what was wrong. He switched it off to explain to him what had happened. Restarted ok and rode about 15 min home. He contacted me and I told him it was probably a blocked fuel filter, as the fuel we get in my neck of the woods is known to block fuel filters - some more than others. He wanted to ride the trike on Sunday but didn't want to risk trouble, so I agreed to replace the filter; trouble was the nearest one was 420 km (300 miles) away. Not to worry, as I had previously fitted a larger filter to my old GS. As SPYD3R noted above it's located under the top cowl, just to the right side of the gas filler cap but 6 inches forward of it. All the plastic from the coolant access cover, up to and including the seats must come off to get to 'the little bugger.'
Unfortunately, the Ryco Z200 that I fitted to my GS is tooo big to fit there, so off I go in search of a smaller diameter filter with 8mm barb fittings. 2hrs later and no luck, so I got a length of high-pressure fuel hose and relocated the Z200 onto top of the tank on the left side of the fuel filler. I also removed the fuel pump assembly to check the suction screen as it is easy to remove with all the plastic still off. The screen was clean and appeared to be a relatively coarse 'tea bag' type. With the filter connected and the pump back in, I started the engine and ran it for a min or 2 to check for leaks - all good. Back on with all the plastic and several different sizes of screws, all of which have different size torx or allen heads - how frustrating.
Pic of a cut open, blocked filter to follow. Trike has done 48,000km. Why oh why wasn't it located in an easily access place??? It is a service item after all!!!
Dasmoetorhead
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Lol, I was going to say the same. ;-)>
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